How come no one's allowed to hate stuff anymore?

[Cupid]

I think the manger is in a pan of Sauerkraut! But yes, the manger has never looked so delicious! It also looks a little scary. lol.

 

[gl1koz3]

Have fun hating their hate. No problem with that. But you beat yourself at your own game there - It's okay for them to hate your hating. It's like running in circles. If you don't want to do that, you end the topic.

Cheers.

 

[Caravaggio]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

As I said, I don't really care about the Beatles all that much, and I don't know their history. But a Google search turns up this list, at least: http://abbeyrd.best.vwh.net/wiener.htm

I just need to point out the irony. Right in the second paragraph it mentions how Elvis had revolutionized pop.

Nobody said that Elvis didn't... just because he did doesn't mean that the Beatles didn't...

Early I claimed that Elvis was a better innovator than the Beatles, and I'm bringing in evidence to prove the Beatles did that admits Elvis did is situationally ironic, for the act was meant to support the Beatles, while it ended up equally supporting both sides of the argument. Also I personally wish to find proof that the Beatles did other stuff no one had yet.

 

[Caravaggio]

snip before we get totally crushed by quotes

And? I didn't say Elvis didn't revolutionize music. You've ignored the point of what I said twice now.

See above. Merely pointing out irony, argument not initialized.

 

[FexusMaximus]

Honestly, if you do not like something, then yes. As you've edited, hate is a strong word.

But with the responses you've gotten from people in general(in RL, not on here), you've got a good reason not to be fan, besides the facts you stated.

All the same, the facts you DID state, won't got over well with most people...especially the kinds you seem to be around. Not to be rude, but they don't sound like the brightest bunch if they get all angry over you not liking something.

I drink coffee most days, and nab some bacon whenever I CAN...maybe once or twice every 2-3 months. I am a fan of both 'products,' but I will not get angry or rage just because someone like you doesn't like them. That's....pretty immature if you ask me, and you have perfectly valid reasons.

Though to be fair human teeth are naturally kinda yellow-ish. And you should strive for good hygiene anyway.

The only other thing I can add, is that the above stated only applies if you're not going around TELLING EVERYONE you HATE the stuff. If you aren't....which I don't think you are, mind you, then yes, your 'extreme dislike' of such foodstuffs is fine. If you are....well then I suppose I would be kind of annoyed. But not due to liking the stuff, just because that's an annoying thing to do in general.

 

[Songbird-O]

I don't hate anything, aside from a small amount of random things. I can be very critical, though, so I receive a fair bit of backlash every now and then. The thing is, not everyone wants to hear criticism, and some people hate it when people disagree, especially when it is something they are very passionate about. It's up for them to grow up, or you to drop it if the topic isn't worth your time.

 

[Caravaggio]

I apologize for the condescension. I'm just a bit grumpy about being patronized. And I hope that statement doesn't sound like condescension, it wasn't meant to be, I would merely like to draw attention to what I reacted to being patronizing in itself.

That's the thing with text. It's only two-dimensional. If you have time, always re-read what you've written to make sure you can't offend someone with it. (This in itself could be seen to be patronising - but I'm hoping you'll catch the jist.)

If someone does like coffee though, they usually have already weighed the pros/cons in their mind and decided to go with it. Same with bacon. There's few things worse than hearing someone saying "You made the wrong choice!", and that's where the anger comes from.

If you hate coffee, fine. But it's not cool to tell a coffee-lover that. Tell a coffee-hater and get really bitter over a nice cup of tea. But talk to the coffee lover about something like vests. Even Francis doesn't hate vests.

You're right about the 2 dimensional thing. Only if there were more, that would involve actual face to face communication, with no pause to think and no one who could moderate fast enough. (Not argument, merely observation)

 

[Caravaggio]

In psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud defined hate as an ego state that wishes to destroy the source of its unhappiness.

therefore, technically speaking. your friends hate bacon and coffee more than you do.

Can't think of a better way to destroy bacon than eating it, can you?

Nice comment about Freud. Many people (including me) believe that Freud was bit messed up when he hypothesized all of his claims. You know, because of the heroin addiction and all of that.

 

[beniki]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

Logic is subjective, and facts are alterable.

The way you are wording your responses is implying that you posses more facts, and that whilst your opinion is based on logic, the other persons is not, and therefore less valid.

The language you are using is abrasive. You call people childish, and keep re-directing points to well trodden territory where you are comfortable you can win, such as the healthiness of bacon, and the legitimacy of the Beatles creating rock and roll. You see these minor victories as proof of your own intelligence.

You are afraid to actually confront the real point of the person you are quoting.

In short, you're no fun.

... Then again, you can save yourself with answering the most important question of all.

You like marmite?

 

[Talshere]

No bacon.........Breath. I can handle this....I can go with a dislike of bacon....
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COFFEE!!!! YOU HATE COFFEE >.- GTFO!!!!!!

Seriously though,

As a student whenever deadlines are coming up I live on coffee as I try and jam a 200 hour recommended work time into the day its due in.

I dont get how you can hate though. Hate implies a dislike for something so strong you cannot bare to even be in a room with it. Ive never come across someone with such a pathological hate of a food.

To hate a smell. Ok, it makes some ppl physically sick. Same with sight. But to hate the food itself, especially it it does not illicit the previously stated reactions? Really? Isn't that going a little overboard?

Going past the use of the word hate and going instead for dislike, I cant see any logical reason to even come to loggerheads with someone over this other than possibly a heated moral argument.

 

[astrav1]

Don't worry about hating bacon. But you can't hate bacon because it's BACON. Unless you mean British bacon in which case I understand. What is your take on vests.

 

[maiiau]

snip before we get totally crushed by quotes

And? I didn't say Elvis didn't revolutionize music. You've ignored the point of what I said twice now.

See above. Merely pointing out irony, argument not initialized.

Okay, back to my original point, then: you go about explaining your hatred in ways that cherry picks little bits of information that agrees with your point of view rather than takes into account the whole piece of information, and your tone tends toward "these are the ways my opinion is actual fact, and not just an opinion" when like or dislike can never be anything but opinion.

 

[The_root_of_all_evil]

You're right about the 2 dimensional thing. Only if there were more, that would involve actual face to face communication, with no pause to think and no one who could moderate fast enough. (Not argument, merely observation)

Problem being, you'd lose research, images and video. It's all swings and roundabouts.

 

[Caravaggio]

snip before we get totally crushed by quotes

And? I didn't say Elvis didn't revolutionize music. You've ignored the point of what I said twice now.

See above. Merely pointing out irony, argument not initialized.

Okay, back to my original point, then: you go about explaining your hatred in ways that cherry picks little bits of information that agrees with your point of view rather than takes into account the whole piece of information, and your tone tends toward "these are the ways my opinion is actual fact, and not just an opinion" when like or dislike can never be anything but opinion.

I concede in saying that like and dislike are subjective views, but what I meant is that my side of the argument is based in facts, not opinion, i. e. the health issues.

 

[deathbydeath]

with me, it's minecraft. there are some people who i hang out with who like/love it. some people are minecraft haters(only one has hated it), and one kid i know plays it and denies it when a minecraft flame-war comes up. me? i'm getting the alpha/beta really soon

 

[Canid117]

BURN HIM!!!! HAIL THE ALMIGHTY BACON!!!!!!!!!

PRAISE IT!!!! PRAISE IT NOW!!!!!!!

 

[beniki]

How can you lose a friend over bacon? It's... it's bacon! It's a pretty tasty strip of meat and fat. Is it really the fact you don't like bacon they're annoyed over, or the fact you won't join in the joke?

I mean it's not like it was Marmite (All hail the Black Goo God).

I don't think that everybody likes marmite as much as you do

[link/]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am6fco14Gi0[/link]

As it should be

Marmite is something you either love or hate, and they even advertise it like that.

 

[Caravaggio]

Judging by how you've explained your dislike of the Beatles (for the record, my opinion on the Beatles is that I can take them or leave them), I'd say it was because you seem to make it sound like your opinion is the right one and people should conform to it, when really they have as much right to like bacon as you do to dislike it. If you're constantly going around making people feel defensive about their choices and acting superior, they won't want to hang around you. I've never gotten anyone angry at me for saying I dislike coffee or don't drink alcohol, so I can't imagine why just that sort of thing would cause people to stop speaking to you.

You see though, my arguments aren't to prove that my opinion is superior. Just that is actually logical and based in facts. based on music wavelength, Beatles music is far from anything that most of the world considers rock e. g. Led Zeppelin, The Rolling Stones, AC/DC, etc. and Elvis's music is rather close (And, I remind you, Elvis came first). They did not innovate anything new other than what I previously mentioned and if you can find me an example of another innovation originally made by them and you back it up then I will admit fault, but by all logic the Beatles did not invent rock and roll.

Logic is subjective, and facts are alterable.

The way you are wording your responses is implying that you posses more facts, and that whilst your opinion is based on logic, the other persons is not, and therefore less valid.

The language you are using is abrasive. You call people childish, and keep re-directing points to well trodden territory where you are comfortable you can win, such as the healthiness of bacon, and the legitimacy of the Beatles creating rock and roll. You see these minor victories as proof of your own intelligence.

You are afraid to actually confront the real point of the person you are quoting.

In short, you're no fun.

... Then again, you can save yourself with answering the most important question of all.

You like marmite?

What you just said about logic and facts literally contradicts the definitions of the words.

Also, if a previously made point trumps a new argument, then it is my duty to restate the previously made point. That does not make me no fun, it makes me rational.

I did not specify that any person is childish. I merely stated that the idea of doing what I specified is itself childish.

When have I not confronted the point of a quote? Seriously, I'm honest and will right my mistake if it truly is one.

Marmite? Never had it.

 

[Caravaggio]

You're right about the 2 dimensional thing. Only if there were more, that would involve actual face to face communication, with no pause to think and no one who could moderate fast enough. (Not argument, merely observation)

Problem being, you'd lose research, images and video. It's all swings and roundabouts.

Very true, though what I was trying to say is that if there were a more than 2 dimensional communication based on a forum, then the above difficulties would arise.

 

[maiiau]

But that doesn't mean someone can't like coffee in spite of its health issues. Why bring up a laundry list of reasons why this is bad for you/not innovative/whatever when the topic at hand is liking or disliking something, and then starting arguments over it? I like bacon, you don't. Okay, whatever. Bring up arguments as to why that thing, and therefore the person's opinion, is bad, is just asking for arguments.