How come there are no positive gay or lesbian characters in games?
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TBH I don't see why it's such a big deal. There aren't any gay characters in Games because theres no need for them to be. It wouldn't be beneficial to the story. I'm not saying it would be a negative thing if it did but they don't bother because it doesn't make a difference so they may as well stick with the default. Unless of course there was a GAY game but then I think that would cause even more controversy and anyway I can't see that happening anytime soon.
Yes, you would only get stereotypes, but if you were to put that kind of information in with just a small amount of subtlety or change the female love interest into a male love interest without affecting the story or characters in any way, you wouldn't.The_root_of_all_evil said:
Mass erect... I mean mass effect allows you to have a lesbian(?) relationship with an alien.
Deus Ex: Invisible war, if you play as a guy in that Vox club you encounter the minister of culture and he asks you to be his chamber boy.
How do you know Gordon Freeman isn't cringing every time Alyx makes a pass at him?
Stop being so close minded!
Deus Ex: Invisible war, if you play as a guy in that Vox club you encounter the minister of culture and he asks you to be his chamber boy.
How do you know Gordon Freeman isn't cringing every time Alyx makes a pass at him?
Stop being so close minded!
There are none because society as a whole has the entirety of the gay subject on a bit of parole. Once gays/lesbians are more accepted by society at large, then I think there will be more of them in games. Also, I would imagine that (I swear I am not being prejudiced), but since the gaming community is small as is, the percentage of gay/lesbian gamers has to be even smaller. Once the gaming community broadens to encompass more people in general, we will see more specialization when it comes to games. But for now, games will just have to play towards cliche.
*Sigh* ^^ This. I couldn't give a toss about whether the main character is a [Insert minority here]. Having a [Insert minority here] in a bad game won't stop it being a bad game.pdgeorge said:
P.S: you are not the only one that has noticed it is mostly members of the majority with their head up their backside that are fighting the good fight for minorities. This political correctness bull is really annoying in the UK. You can have women only car insurance firms but have to let women into gentlemens clubs. There's a black police trade union or whatever you call it, but not one for white cops? Apparently it's only racism when it's white people doing it and sexism when it's men doing it.
lolgeorge144 said:
Anyway yeah i think that what pretty much everyone else is saying is right.
It doesnt really matter much at all.
Because most games use over-the-top archetypes, so that means hot lesbians doing it or flamboyantly gay guys making the other characters uncomfortable. It is a shame they can't see past that, but until more games are able to create non-stereotypical straight characters, I don't think they will be ready to make more positive gay/lesbian characters.
But if it's a meaningless change then let 'em have it. The only thing I find gimmicky is that 99.9% of all videogame protagonists are white heterosexual males, which last time I checked isn't really the way things are.Baby Tea said:
As others have pointed out, it's just not that big a deal. And most games don't reveal side characters' sexuality, or even the protagonist's preferences and therefore, the gamer can portray him/her however he/she desires.
For linear games where decisions are forced, forcing someone to play as something they may find offensive (like an LGBT character) or make a choice they don't agree with only upsets the gamer. Forcing straight gamers to play gay protagonists might upset them, negatively effecting sales for the game companies. On the flip-side, rarely do "good" characters give their views on homosexuality as being negative. Being forced to kill someone in a game simply because they're revealed to be LGBT would also alienate gamers and reduce sales.
Sandbox games are the playgrounds for those who want to make their characters either homosexual or homophobic. Fable II is a great example of this, where if you want to be gay, you can. If you want to systematically assassinate the homosexuals in the game, you can do that, too. As Yahtzee pointed out however, there are still rules in place as you can?t ?marry your dog? or anything, but gamers who would want to do that are (I think) a very small minority.
The point I guess I?m trying to arrive at is that topics like sexuality of characters are better left for games where establishing them is left as a choice for the gamer. Otherwise, leave them out of the game and let the gamer picture the character however they want (if they even care).
No offense meant to anyone by the above comment.
For linear games where decisions are forced, forcing someone to play as something they may find offensive (like an LGBT character) or make a choice they don't agree with only upsets the gamer. Forcing straight gamers to play gay protagonists might upset them, negatively effecting sales for the game companies. On the flip-side, rarely do "good" characters give their views on homosexuality as being negative. Being forced to kill someone in a game simply because they're revealed to be LGBT would also alienate gamers and reduce sales.
Sandbox games are the playgrounds for those who want to make their characters either homosexual or homophobic. Fable II is a great example of this, where if you want to be gay, you can. If you want to systematically assassinate the homosexuals in the game, you can do that, too. As Yahtzee pointed out however, there are still rules in place as you can?t ?marry your dog? or anything, but gamers who would want to do that are (I think) a very small minority.
The point I guess I?m trying to arrive at is that topics like sexuality of characters are better left for games where establishing them is left as a choice for the gamer. Otherwise, leave them out of the game and let the gamer picture the character however they want (if they even care).
No offense meant to anyone by the above comment.
That doesn't mean we still shouldn't give them shit about it.Baby Tea said:
We have a long way to go as a medium if people still have trouble identifying with someone with a different sexual preference or skin color.
well in star ocean there was this one boss in the 4d world that had the "gay lisp" and used a whip and said "I don't like that look in your eye!" very erm.... manly? anyway yeah, thats the only gay character I have ever seen in a video game (now anime is different >.>)
A) It's not that popular of a desire from users, and it probably isn't that marketable.
B) If they make themselves known to be gay or lesbian, it will most likely take the form of gimmicky bull****, not masterful character development. Like, it would probably be called "The Gayme" or something like that.
My point is, I can understand that gays and lesbians would want to be represented, but it's probably a bad, bad thing for the sexual orientation of the main character to be a selling point unless it's a dating sim and you're into that sort of thing.
B) If they make themselves known to be gay or lesbian, it will most likely take the form of gimmicky bull****, not masterful character development. Like, it would probably be called "The Gayme" or something like that.
My point is, I can understand that gays and lesbians would want to be represented, but it's probably a bad, bad thing for the sexual orientation of the main character to be a selling point unless it's a dating sim and you're into that sort of thing.
Did it perhaps occur to you that this may be because there are few gays/lesbians out there?Gaskell said:
/facepalmemh204 said:
Feeling up for a good trolling are we?
C'mon all you trolls give us is Democrat hating and racism, come up with something original and learn to spell while you're at it.
