How did the PSN issue turn into a flame war?

[DoW Lowen]

I've been keeping up to date with the whole debacle and it wasn't until recently that I started paying attention to the local commentary, now I sincerely regret it reading it.

Seriously, what the fuck guys? Laugh, yeah sure. Even make a snide comment, I know I did. But to read things like

"This just proves that Xbox is better in every way now." to "Suck shit you PS3 fanboys." and of course from the other side "I would rather have my information hacked than switch over to Microsoft."

I don't own a PS3, I'm mainly an Xbox man myself, and yes Sony dropped the ball on this one, a 300 tonne, $25.5 billion ball. But this could have easily happened to any of the other side and PS3 users would be tearing xbox users a new one, and xbox owners would still be defending their console (most likely the owning one they own) to the death.

This issue isn't about whose console is better or worse, the real issue is that our fellow gamers, of all shapes, colors, creeds and walks of life have been fucked over by hackers. Their personal information stolen, their credit card details at risk and worse of all THEY CAN'T PLAY GAMES!

Tis it not the universal dream of the gamer, to sit in front of the TV, controller in hand, playing from sunrise to sunset until our couches have a permanent grove of our asses, and the same shirt we've been wearing for the past 3 days is covered in dorito crumbs and mountain dew stains? How dare you deny this dream from your fellow gamer?!

Discussion value: What is the stupidest thing you've seen/heard someone say about this issue? Was that person you? Was it? No really, it was wasn't it? Admit it.

 

[Terminate421]

Fanboys from either side of this...war...decided to use it as a weapon for insults.

I use an Xbox, but personally, I felt that actually paying for the service meant Microsoft actually put in the effort to keep it strong.

Insults over bad security design = It's Super effective

 

[Woodsey]

I still don't understand the "well it got hacked so obviously it wasn't strong enough", the implication being that systems exist which are 100% hack-proof.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

I still don't understand the "well it got hacked so obviously it wasn't strong enough", the implication being that systems exist which are 100% hack-proof.

I take my card off Steam after every purchase now, just in case hackers ever target them.

Oh wait. People somehow believe Steam is hack-proof.

 

[JDKJ]

Sony dropped the ball on this one, a 300 tonne, $25.5 billion ball.

Don't believe everything you read. That $25 billion estimate is about as scientifically arrived at as if you'd thrown three darts at a dart board and multiple the resulting score by one billion. A more reasonable analysis would arrive at a figure nowhere near that amount. Nor do the historical precedents support that estimate. TJ Maxx got hacked for nearly three times the amount of accounts that Sony got hacked for and their ultimate costs were nowhere near that amount.

 

[DeadlyYellow]

Tools will be tools.

 

[stabnex]

1) I kept no actual personal info on my account except my e-mail address.
2) My PS3 can still play all of its games.
3) Online play on PS3 may have been free but it was unmoderated, unmonitored for hackers, and undedicated to its players.
4) Sony had it coming.
5) CC's were not stolen, the hackers weren't interested in them.
6) Sony is the party keeping PSN down to "update" it so they can make it pay-to-play now that they've over-sensationalized the "threat" of "online terrorists" by claiming CC's were stolen and sold.
7) The games on the PS3 have always been lackluster at best.
8) I use my PS3 on a daily basis for games and Netflix (and still not a fanboy of either console).
9)

 

[Nightrunex]

I posted a facebook status warning my friends about the PSN breach etc., because not all of my friends are as up to date about gaming culture as me. Couple of friends thanked me for letting them know, then one guy who I forgot I even had as a friend decided to write "Xbox ftw" on my status underneath the warning.
Needless to say, a flame war erupted in my status.

Edit: And the Xbox fanboy (inb4 I get bashed, I have an Xbox and accept the strengths & faults of each console) got hammered.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Sony dropped the ball on this one, a 300 tonne, $25.5 billion ball.

Don't believe everything you read. That $25 billion estimate is about as scientifically arrived at as if you'd thrown three darts at a dart board and multiple the resulting score by one billion.

pfffft... the journos should have let me throw the darts. $180billion would look much more impressive. Yes, I'm bragging about my dart playing skills.

 

[Irridium]

I still don't understand the "well it got hacked so obviously it wasn't strong enough", the implication being that systems exist which are 100% hack-proof.

I take my card off Steam after every purchase now, just in case hackers ever target them.

Oh wait. People somehow believe Steam is hack-proof.

I still don't use credit cards. Make my purchases online with pre-paid cards.

Suck on that hackers.

OT: Dicks will be dicks. Not much more to say really.

 

[burningdragoon]

Pre-reading post:
Because this is the internet.

Post-reading post:
No yeah, that's it.

 

[tjs09]

How did the PSN issue turn into a flame war?

Well, it all started when hackers stole Kim Jong-Il's Royal Credit Card #

Two days later, South Korean president issued the "XBox 360 For The Win" Address, and all hell broke loose. Kim Jong-Il, unimpressed, ignored South Korea. The South Korean public, however, was not satisfied. They unleashed a torrent of flames on North Korea, capturing the city of Ego. North Korea responded with flames, and all of Korea soon burned to the ground. North Korea was able to rebuild their country to almost unhackable status, while South Korea died a slow, painful, Red Ring Of Death.

There's a moral here, but I can't find it

Whatever

 

[ZombieGenesis]

Not to mention a day after the news hit about Sony it was announced that hackers had been getting control over peoples Microsoft Xbox Live accounts and selling them back to them, through a backdoor in one of the Call of Duty Games.
I would link to the thread but it's long since been buried beneath the PSN debacle. Still, shows neither are any better than the other.

 

[Verlander]

Er, welcome to the internet? I hadn't realised that it had to be honest...

 

[DasUberCow]

1) I kept no actual personal info on my account except my e-mail address.
2) My PS3 can still play all of its games.
3) Online play on PS3 may have been free but it was unmoderated, unmonitored for hackers, and undedicated to its players.
4) Sony had it coming.
5) CC's were not stolen, the hackers weren't interested in them.
6) Sony is the party keeping PSN down to "update" it so they can make it pay-to-play now that they've over-sensationalized the "threat" of "online terrorists" by claiming CC's were stolen and sold.
7) The games on the PS3 have always been lackluster at best.
8) I use my PS3 on a daily basis for games and Netflix (and still not a fanboy of either console).

Erm... Okay? What's with the conspiracy theory stuff? This won't change the PSN in any way apart from that it will be more secure once it's back up.

Where did you get that no credit card information was stolen? I would really like to know.

As for point 4, why did they have it coming any more than XBL or Steam?