How do I convince my dad that games aren't "Evil"?

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Kortney

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The "video games make you violent" argument collapses under it's own flimsy weight when you bring up the huge amount of people who play violent video games. After Modern Warfare 2 came out, everyone on Earth should be a killer now :p
 

cleverlymadeup

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RootbeerJello said:
My dad's always been skeptical about me playing any games with guns in them, and I've always tried to let it go and not get pissed, but today we had a conversation that made me realize I had to do something. I started up Urban Terror, a Quake 3 Arena mod with blood turned off. The conversation went like this:

WARNING: Big wall-o-text
Dad: Is that the gun game?
Me: Yes dad, this is the "gun game"
Dad: -in a normal, perfectly conversational tone- I hate that game. It's evil.
Me: What?
Dad: It's a game about killing people. It'll make you want to kill people.
Me: No it won't. I'm not that easily influenced.
Dad: It's not about how easily influenced you are. That game will make you evil.
Me: No it won't.
Dad: Yes it will. Games like that make you violent.
Me: I'm not violent!
Dad: Yes you are. You're using a violent tone right now.
Me: so I can't play it anymore?
Dad: You'll stop eventually.
Me: What does that mean?
Dad: Someday you'll understand and stop playing that game. -leaves-


So have any of you Escapists had a similar experience? And what can I do to change my Dad's mind about video games?
here's the simple way of doing it

ask him if there was violent video games during the Roman period cause they liked to chop people up with swords and had the gladiator games

then ask him if they had them during the Crusades and medieval period cause they were a pretty violent group of people and time as well

then ask him if they had them during the American Revolution because they liked to shoot people then

then ask him if they had them during the Civil War in America because they encouraged people to shoot people from the North or South and them some <insert racial slur for non-white people here>

then ask him about WW1 and WW2 if they had them during those wars because they sure encouraged people to shoot Germans or Japanese during those wars

after he says no to each and every single one of them, which he has to, you will say how did video games contribute to violence that has been around for millennial

also you can ask him if watching westerns on tv and war movies and such made him any more violent as a child because during the 50 and 60s those movies and tv shows were the target of parents who said it would make their kids more violent.

just a word of warning that you might piss him off with that approach because you'll make him look like a total idiot and show that you are a bit smarter than him
 

SnootyEnglishman

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Give him an NES Console and buy him any game made by Wisdom Tree...a company making unlicensed Nintendo games about the Bible. If he still hasn't changed try send him off to Australia
 

Insomniac55

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Get him into the games himself? After about 3 failed attempts I got my dad into half-life 2 (First few times I tried to get him playing it he'd play to roughtly the same spot, turn it off because he'd be playing for 20 minutes and then never play again... next time he tried he'd have to start all over because he'd forgotten it all)

Now he's currently trying to beat the strider battle at the end of ep 2.

To be fair though, he did have some experience before this... he got into Doom 3 for a while, and then Far Cry after that. Gaming is just one of those things you need to experience to fully understand... your dad's assumptions of the game's 'evilness' is a fairly logical, although narrow-minded view of games if he's only ever seen them when somone else is playing. Without any context, many games do indeed appear 'evil'.
 

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Deathkingo said:
Mum said that same ting about WoW...until I forced her to play it.
the fact is most people cant pitch fireballs, or effectively wield swords, maces, staves, and polearms. Knives, axes, and sledgehammers you can buy at wal-mart, your everyday murder warehouse.
 

Skarvig

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First of all, what games?
A game with a gun in it, could be a whole lot of games. Games that are suitable for kids.
You are 13 years old, if you play GTA or any other mature rated game, he is kinda right.
But you can't change his mind, but firebomb a certain building.
 

Hileo20

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Pull out a gun and remind him that if you were busy playing your game those actual people would still be alive :p

Or just move on, move out, enjoy your adult life more fully now that you are finally free - this plan might take awhile..
 

Hileo20

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Pull out a gun and remind him that if you were busy playing your game those actual people would still be alive :p

Or just move on, move out, enjoy your adult life more fully now that you are finally free. - this plan might take awhile..
 

Littlee300

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People fear things they don't understand i heard...
Also maybe convince your dad you know how to separate fiction from non-fiction.
 

gbemery

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next time your dad is watching fox 'news' have the exact same conversation with him except change characters.
 

Bradd94

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Unless its any game other than mario kart or any other mario related title, you have little hope. (However, I will conceded that the squashing of other karts is rather intense.)

Lets face it, video games all have a violence element, a dark element, and an element in which your main hero, or a hero close to yours, pursues sexual relations with another AI.
I dont believe you, I hear you say.
Well its prevelant in every game.
Three word example: Mario and Peach.

Give up. Its futile.
 

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thedailylunatic said:
Polly Prissypants Tea Party 5.
Holy Crap, I didn't know the 5th one had came out yet. I've been playing PPTP 4 for so long. I hope they still keep the pony princess land in the 5th one.

OT: Just ignore him if he isn't actually stopping you from playing the games you want. But,whatever you do, do not do anything that includes: raising your voice, getting mad, or being a smartass. This will just cement your dad's antiquated views. You could always attempt to get a setup where you would game in your own room. I'm sure you could find ways to play the games you want in secret.
 

Icecoldcynic

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You can't lie to him like that. Games truly are the work of the devil and we are all sinners for even THINKING of playing them.