How do I convince my dad that games aren't "Evil"?

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zombie711

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My dad thinks I can handle any ammount of blood in a game but he is not so keen on nudity and drugs, so except gta and no more heros and house of the dead overkill :( I can get any game I want.
 

Desolis

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tell him that games are like art and that violence is a form of expression. worked on my Grandma
 

TheYellowCellPhone

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feather240 said:
TheYellowCellPhone said:
My mom is very anti-violent games. She hates any game that recieves an M rating. I was playing Half-Life 2 and she walked in to see me give a Combine soldier a face full of buckshot and that was it. My dad is very easy going, but told me my mom complained to him about it, and now I can't play them when my mom is around and I can't buy M rated games. It sucks, now the only games I can play are Flash games, and to think I could be playing Borderlands or Fallout 3.
HL2 Never appeared that violent to me. Maybe the Ravenholm part was scary, but that's it.
You've never met my mom. She hates it when we say kill instead of KO in fighting games. I honestly don't understand it. She never played video games as a kid, so that may contribute to her thought of it's influence.

EDIT: I like your avatar, Thing-Thing was a fun series.
 

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RootbeerJello said:
Common ground, and work your way up from there.

As in, find something with shooting in it that he wouldn't mind like I dunno Links crossbow training on the Wii (just 'cause it was the first thing that jumped to my head) that is fairly harmless since it's mainly shooting pots and targets, then work your way up so something like a Duck hunting game etc. etc.

If that doesn't work he's just old, generation gap, nothing you can do about it.

Good luck

Or you could use the usual argument winner I use, "Would you rather I was here, safe at home playing video games, pretending to be violent, or out on the streets with some friends getting drunk, drugged up and ACTUALLY being violent and ruining my life?"

or something to that effect, it's good for 2 reasons, 1, it presents gaming as a seriously good thing from a parental point of view, no parent wants to see their child in a horrible state or ruining their lives and 2 it tugs on the guilt strings.
 

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RootbeerJello said:
My dad's always been skeptical about me playing any games with guns in them, and I've always tried to let it go and not get pissed, but today we had a conversation that made me realize I had to do something. I started up Urban Terror, a Quake 3 Arena mod with blood turned off. The conversation went like this:

WARNING: Big wall-o-text
Dad: Is that the gun game?
Me: Yes dad, this is the "gun game"
Dad: -in a normal, perfectly conversational tone- I hate that game. It's evil.
Me: What?
Dad: It's a game about killing people. It'll make you want to kill people.
Me: No it won't. I'm not that easily influenced.
Dad: It's not about how easily influenced you are. That game will make you evil.
Me: No it won't.
Dad: Yes it will. Games like that make you violent.
Me: I'm not violent!
Dad: Yes you are. You're using a violent tone right now.
Me: so I can't play it anymore?
Dad: You'll stop eventually.
Me: What does that mean?
Dad: Someday you'll understand and stop playing that game. -leaves-


So have any of you Escapists had a similar experience? And what can I do to change my Dad's mind about video games?
I personally knowing your dad can say that he is indeed unreasonable and as you have said yourself "a dumbfuck". There is like a 0.008% chance of convincing this guy of anything, indeed that's under 9 thousandths!

At least he's considering having me building you a gaming computer now!

... wait a minute... he hates games but is okay with you having an object that enables you to play them... Jaysuess Christ logic flaws... I say get some freaking aliens to mess with his brain... you got connections right?

EDIT: Expanding on my logic flaw- I say it's all an act and when you turn 21 he's gonna throw a party with oiltankers of beer, a bus load of hookers, and every GTA game in existence... along with every M rated game you have ever asked for.
 

Crystal Cuckoo

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My dad's the same. He believes that "if you like to shoot people in a game, what makes you think they won't want to shoot people in real life?"

I have to take a great effort not to smack myself in the forehead.

Although, I haven't tried arguing that books/movies/THE BIBLE have similar concepts. He'd probably tell me not to argue with him and lock up my computer.

thiosk said:
Play animal crossing and wear girl pants.

He'll start begging you to shoot things in no time.
You, my friend, have won several interwebs.
 

curty129

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He sounds like an arrogant moron.

Maybe one day he'll be the one to understand. Though being the arrogant moron he is, I doubt it.
 

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RootbeerJello said:
My dad's always been skeptical about me playing any games with guns in them, and I've always tried to let it go and not get pissed, but today we had a conversation that made me realize I had to do something. I started up Urban Terror, a Quake 3 Arena mod with blood turned off. The conversation went like this:

So have any of you Escapists had a similar experience? And what can I do to change my Dad's mind about video games?
Make him a bet. Tell him you'll give him a billion dollars when any professional (psychiatrist or someone like that) can say that you are undoubtedly evil and that this was undoubtedly caused by video games.
 

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RootbeerJello said:
So have any of you Escapists had a similar experience? And what can I do to change my Dad's mind about video games?
I had a partner who was kind of like this. Needless to say we're not together anymore.

You probably can't change his mind. Why should you, anyway? It's not like he's stopping you from playing the game. Just agree to disagree.
 

KiruTheMant

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The simple thing to do is to Get the worlds most violent,evil game,after not playing a game for 2 weeks (That games Dante's inferno) and say the Withdrawl has made you want to go to hell,this will let him see it could be worse,or he'll call a Exorcist.
 

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LimaBravo said:
RootbeerJello said:
My dad's always been skeptical about me playing any games with guns in them, and I've always tried to let it go and not get pissed, but today we had a conversation that made me realize I had to do something /snip. And what can I do to change my Dad's mind about video games?
Buy him a copy of 'Grand Theft Childhood: The Surprising Truth about Violent Video Games and What Parents Can Do' by Lawrence Kutner and Cheryl K. Olson and I highly recommend 'Killing Monsters: Our Children's Need for Fantasy, Heroism and Make-believe Violence' by Gerard Jones.

Fantastic reads & very informative & critically unbiased.

Oh yeah & the ESA report about the Average gamers should help as well what with the average gamer being 35, working & a voter.
This times a thousand. If your dad still acts like a tool when you try to reason with him with these books and studies, well, you'll just have to accept that your dad is an idiot and go back to enjoying your games. Turn the gore to maximum if possible just to annoy him further.

My mom used to be against me playing semi-realistic games with guns in them, but she realized that they weren't doing anything bad to me and just got over it. Then again, my parents aren't braindead.
 

Ganthrinor

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Tell him he's being racist. Then after a week or so, switch to "Fascist" for about another week. Then agree with everything he says for a week in a totally dead, emotionless voice. Then go buy yourself a pistol (real or fake, doesn't really matter), and set it next to the mouse everytime you game. When he starts to say something, reach for it menacingly without saying a word.
 

Radelaide

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You don't, normally. I've noticed that the older generations are set in their ways. My mother doesn't like me playing violent video games but understands that I'm not going to be influenced into shooting people on the street.

If he's not taking them away, throwing holy water on you and hog tying you down, I wouldn't worry too much.
 

blankgabriel

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When my mother sees me shooting shit up in a game, and ask shy, I say, cause they are the bad guys. I lol every time.