How do we get Michael Bay to make a Warhammer 40k Movie ?

[Soviet Heavy]

You'd be lucky if his head didn't explode on the spot.

Hmm, maybe we should tell him, if that is the end result. It would save us a lot of whinging.

 

[Frankster]

I have never been this offended by a thread before, I didn't even think I could rage this hard or take anything on the net seriously, let alone what seems a relatively innocent proposition.

I truly love 40k and what OP suggests is nothing less of an abomination that makes me truly despise him as a person despite having never met the guy.
Yes I care about 40k THAT much.

Besides the fact that Michael Bay knows as much about 40k as he does transformers and will butcher it and not give a damn (and you horrible people will end up going to see the movie and giving him money and encourage him to make more...raaargh i hate you all!!!!!), theres the small detail of how he is the worst possible director you can choose to make a 40k movie out of.

Ffs, he wouldn't even get the epic battle scenes right, too much shaky cam and non sensical fight scenes.

If this is 40k, you'd expect to see actualy military strategy at work as well as vast armies clashing.
Nothing michael bay has even done suggest he could pull off either (its not just a matter of explosions, seriously damn you OP ¬¬)

Oh god...Im sorry but this has really put my knickers in a twist. I've seen far too many childhood franchises raped to tolerate even the possibilty that my favorite universe of all time gets desecrated in the way OP suggests.

Just imagine it. And think of the horror.

I can actually picture Shia playing the role of the young nameless force commander from dow2 T_T
And there would be romance between him and governor Delorosa of course.

Oh and thaddeus would be a wigger (since he is "gangsta"), jonas would go "daaaamn" every time something happens and gets killed half way (also breakdances at some point and says delorosa is a hot piece of ass), avitus will be some redneck "darned aliens get off me land!" and tarkus will be a US type drill sargeant and constantly swear in battle. Cyrus would be comedic relief.

Fuck it, dow2 the movie, lets go for it.

 

[Griffolion]

The real question here is, how do we get Michael Bay to stop directing films altogether?

I honestly don't want him going anywhere near the GW IP, it's great as is and doesn't need ruining.

 

[No_Remainders]

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See, the problem is, Baysplosion is a TERRIBLE director.

He ruined Transformers, Armageddon was highly overrated, as was Pearl Harbour, Bad Boys was just shit, etc.

He's just bad at what he does, and him making a 40k movie would be horrendous.

 

[LorienvArden]

Numbers according to Box Office mojo (http://boxofficemojo.com)
Pearl Harbor :
Opening weekend: 59,078,912$
Worldwide lifetime Grosses: 449,220,945$
Budget: 150,000,000

Armageddon:
Opening weekend: 36,089,972$
Worldwide lifetime Grosses: 553,709,788$
Budget: 140,000,000

Transformers 2:
Opening weekend: 108,966,307$
Worldwide lifetime Grosses: 836,297,228$
Budget: 200,000,000

Scott Pilgrim:
Opening weekend: 10,609,795$
Worldwide lifetime Grosses: 47,664,559
Budget: 60,000,000

Kick Ass:
Opening weekend: 19,828,687$
Worldwide lifetime Grosses: 96,188,903
Budget: 30,000,000

Lets just have the numbers, because I'm getting tired of essentially repeating my argument over and over again for each page. Comparing "good movies" like Scott Pilgrim, Kick Ass etc. to Michael Bay movies you have to draw 2 seperate charts because the "good movies" won't show up on the Grosses of "bad Michael Bay movies".
Yes, everyone and their mothers cringe and moan at the mentioning of Transformers 2 and how it would be such an abomination of a movie.
Yes, I'm glad I did not go to the movies to see it.
No I will not defend it as a piece of art.
It still sits snuggly at place No.25 of most profitable movies of all times.
From all the "fanboy favorites" only "the Dark Knight", with a solid 8th place beats it.

You might as well compare Michael Bay with Peter Jackson:
http://boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?view=Director&id=peterjackson.htm
http://boxofficemojo.com/people/chart/?id=michaelbay.htm

If you'ld pick the "more successfull" director - you'ld HAVE to hire Bay judging by the numbers.

Reusing the same line time and time again: It's not about making a masterpiece, it's about making a profitable first step. Producers need to be convinced that the franchise can turn a profit before they invest.

 

[BoredDragon]

I don't really know that much about Warhammer 40k except its about space marines fighting orcs, which sounds awesome. Well, I guess its better to have Michael Bay do a video game adaptation rather than Uwe Boll or those idiots who massacred Resident Evil

 

[Gottesstrafe]

Actually... wow, that DOES sound like a match made in heaven. Hell, you could go one step further and do a Star Craft movie where he focuses almost exclusively on the Terran campaign against the hive mind Zerg alien invaders... with some Protoss thrown in. Oh wait, that was Alien vs. Predator.

 

[Doctor Gonzo]

so how do we get somebody like Bay to finally DO it ?

Simple. Tell him he can blow up whatever the hell he wants, and he has another opportunity to destroy a beloved franchise. He'll be on that movie like stink on a monkey.

 

[LorienvArden]

You seem to miss the point here.The human race in its majority consist of easy to impress idiots who would not care for the plot of the movie or it's characters, simply becouse there are explasions and CGI.
An by showing those box office numbers thoesn't prove anything.

Well, you are getting close to my point, but draw another conclusion from it.
1) Yes, the majority of the audience seems to enjoy big effects and little brain behind their movies.
2) No, I don't like it either.
3) We can't change our customers, but we can change our products.

Yes - the box office numbers prove something: Avatar reigns supreme with a story retold a billion times and big exciting effects. It is followed by Movies enjoyable by all ages (Harry potter etc.) and a truly stellar trillogy (LOTR). The numbers tell us a lot about movies these days, you just have to read in them.

Peter Jackson directed 4 movies with a WWG over a hundred million: LOTR1-3 and King Kong. Bay gets 7.
I don't have a valid comparison to Coppola as his numbers come from another source. He averages at 32,973,526$, which is about 100,000,000 below Jackson and Bay. He makes ART. I like Black Swan and Apocalypse now - but he isn't a BlockBuster Action Director and would be a total miscast for such a project.

Also, how do you call Titanic a shitty movie ? It is the second most grossing Movie on this planet.
Try as you might , your dislike won't change reality.

 

[Mantonio]

Michael Bay making a 40K movie?

He's already ruined one franchise, let's not hand him any others.

 

[Raddra]

Urgh, I wouldn't want him to touch it.

So we would end up with a movie about a random civilian family who nobody cares about, a couple of rapping Dreadnoughts or something making brief cameo's with the majority screentime showing a bunch of people nobody cares about running around while a battle rages between characters we do care about who we have no idea who they are since they've been in the background making brief appearances throughout 90% of the movie.

 

[ChicagoTed]

It's simple really, we don't.

 

[Icaruss]

You've seen what he did to transformers and yet you ask for more? If this ever happens....i will do awful ,awful,awful things to the man and everyone else involved.

 

[II2]

[sub]No.[/sub] No. No. NO!

We don't want Michael Bay anywhere near directing or producing a Warhammer 40k movie, for what I assume should really be self evident reasons.

- However -

I'll say that it wouldn't hurt to have him as the Special Effects director or supervisor.

 

[silversnake4133]

Drug him on LSD then shove a firecracker up his bum and light it.

In all seriousness though I doubt he'll do something like that because it would be like asking him to make a movie about Dungeons and Dragons, and we all know how well that went over in the filming industry...

Plus Warhammer 40k doesn't exactly scream explosions, America, and Shia Lebouf drama so I doubt he'll even want to poke the script with a stick. And movies based on RPG style gaming never really do well because you can't really pin-point a plot line that would remain true to the game because there really isn't one. The players make the plot and each game will have a different story, plot, and ending while movies can really only have one.

 

[LorienvArden]

Saying something is good because its popular is the equivalent to saying Slavery was morally right. The masses don't know shit, and have no bearing on what is good or bad because at the end of the day the masses wont be able to tell the difference.

Ok, I am litterally loosing my patience. Will you start reading the whole damn post and give an educated answer ?

How do you make the connection between "It is a good movie - it made a profit!" and "Slavery is good ?"

Haven't I included "The massess are buying this crap - so we should give them just that" in my last post ?
Haven't I included a statement that I would prefer an artfull movie over a blockbuster ?
Haven't I written, word for word, the necessity WHY I believe that a "high-brow artsy fanmovie" would NOT do the job ?

Seriously. If your response is "TLR", disconnect and don't bother to answer.

Sorry for the rant, but this gets dull.

Every single director on planet earth would be a total miscast as I have made clear in a previous post go check it out.The point is that you can't defend your point(oops we have a pun here).A warhammer 40k movie would be targeting only the core fanbase, and no selferespecting producer will give 200 mil. on a movie with sutch a small market like fanboys and nerds.

People are not gonna pay to watch Papa Smurf bitchin' about the Emprah and how great the Ultras are.They want somthing simple, they want to relate to the lead character - that's the reason we have all those hummies in Transformers.People will pay to see the avarege Joe battling against someone evil(like nazis, commies, decepticons, xenomorphs, predotors, zerglings).

I would disagree with exactly that - If you keep it shallow, the premise of 40k could be sold very easily.
Just look at Starship Troopers - how much did we know about Heinleins Universe in the first movie ?
Since I'ld want several movies for the franchise, I would hope that a successfull blockbuster paved the way into the series. Sell out on the first one and give them macho Imperial Guards and all the things people today want. In a sequel, you can go into more depth about the lore, introduce some big names like abbadon etc. but still cater to the slack jawed masses. From there on, other studios might produce tie-in series, animations or shortfilms with more DEPTH.

If you can just get people to realize that there IS a market for these movies that is NOT just some geeks in their basements playing with toy soldiers (yes yes... my Dark angels rest in their own box somewhere)- then we have a chance to attract some directors who, in the end, give us the movies WE want (which have more depth then the typical Baysplosion).

Anyone still confused as of my oppinion ?