True True, very valid point. However lasers are only effective at a certain distance, nearly assured to be close enough to cause radioactive fallout pollution on a landmass, all it takes is this to fall on a town on the coast and now you have a whole population with Gamma exposure diseases and Beta burns. look at Chernobyl, 24 years on and still the animal populations in the area are heavily diseased and low on numbers (Still nothing compared to 2-3 years after the disaster itself). And its more than likely that in the process of defending their own country they are also going to be on the offensive and attack back, then allies are going to get involved on both side.mad825 said:well supposing that they are using lasers I'm sure they could do it for a while and even then there would very little "fallout" due to the premature detonation doesn't cause a nuclear explosion (implosion, to be pedantic).THEfog101 said:Both side's only have so much Anti Missile reserves they can use, even if they are intercepted mid air, the resulting nuclear fallout will cause mass ecological damage and i would not be surprised if it was to climax to a nuclear winter.
the ecological impact might be fairly minimal, depending on were the derbies landed and the weather conditions.
I completely disagree - at least in regard to it happening in our life times.Nouw said:(Let's be honest, there is going to be one)
That would be A LOT of Aliens... Seen as we have enough nukes to destroy earth several times over lol.Mr. Omega said:Space aliens arrive. We nuke the alliens. Then more aliens arrive.
Rinse-repeat until either
a: the aliens give up
b: we run out of nukes
c: all the fallout from the sky causes the fish to mutate, causing WWIV, MAN VS FISHMAN!
The lasers actually are effective to serveral miles out and are even more effective in space (nullifying ICBMs). Also, they do not cause the warhead to expload or impload. In fact, they don't even target the warhead; they target the detonator. Without the detonator, the missle can not cause a nuclear chain reaction. If the missle still poses enough of a threat without the detonator, then they simply fry the engine with the laser.THEfog101 said:True True, very valid point. However lasers are only effective at a certain distance, nearly assured to be close enough to cause radioactive fallout pollution on a landmass, all it takes is this to fall on a town on the coast and now you have a whole population with Gamma exposure diseases and Beta burns. look at Chernobyl, 24 years on and still the animal populations in the area are heavily diseased and low on numbers (Still nothing compared to 2-3 years after the disaster itself). And its more than likely that in the process of defending their own country they are also going to be on the offensive and attack back, then allies are going to get involved on both side.mad825 said:snipTHEfog101 said:snip
The allies are going to utilize their nuclear capabilities and launch attacks as well. You can only defend against so many attacks at once before you are overwhelmed. And then your allies are going to continue firing against the hostiles until they are wiped out or have taken a enemy out, in the case they do take a enemy out then another will follow and destroy them and so on until there is nobody left and then BAMM! You have Metro or Fallout, where the surface is so highly irradiated that it cannot be immediately re-inhabited. So we will recover, we always have....... its in our nature.
you missed the part about government collapse when the nukes launch, but you are mostly correctaakibar said:From the modern stand point right now:
WWIII will start in the middle east and Asia and quickly become a world war, nations would be pulled in due to political alliances or for economic reasons.
In the begining the UN will try to solve things then nations will just walk our like during WWI
the main belligerants (initially) will be Pakistan, China, India, Israel, NKorea, Iran, syria.
How it starts will be anybodys guess but the most obvious one is Iran goes balistic and starts a war with Israel, America will give support to our allies while most of the Muslem world will fight for Iran. The deciding factor will be where will the oil come from. China most likely will have to side with the mid east for economic reasons.
The eurpopean nations will either join with the US due to the NATO alliance or totally stay away. This is where the whole world war thing will happen. that will be the decideing factor.
Likly Nkorea and China will attempt to take control of the pacific while America will mobilize in full, think WWII only more frantic.
Canada Will watch for the most part unless china gets ambitious.
Russia is the wild card who may go anywhere i don't really know.
Africa as a whole will again dissolve into civil war, maybe different forces will invade looking for more resources.
South America will be another interesting factor, no doubt. The Venezuelans will take advantage of America looking the other way and likly invade other nearby nations because they are feeling power hungry or if they have enough nations on their side already, make a move against American allies or America herself.
Nuclear misscles will happen at least once hopefully not if a nation feels cornored with no way our and really wants to hurt another nation nukes will be launched. but if this war is not resolved quickly by the affore mentioned nukes or the UN or peace in general. it will cause a great loss of life, great environmental impact, likly speed hospital tech, building tech, farming, alt energy tech etc ahead hundreds of years. Hopefully this can be the unification war needed to make the world on single bloc. unlikly but possible.
Tell me if i missed anything thanks
an yes i know this seems like a page taken out of fallout fluff, and theres a reason for it. it is quite accurate to a degree.
Well i doing the assumption that governments will dissolve into dictatorships for some time. i also hope that all nations will be smart and not turn the world into a giant fireball. but i woulnt put it past themsupagama said:you missed the part about government collapse when the nukes launch, but you are mostly correctaakibar said:From the modern stand point right now: snip
i meant from the two rioting parties, some will riot to oppose the nuke, some will riot for the nuke, tearing any government in two, even dictatorshipsaakibar said:Well i doing the assumption that governments will dissolve into dictatorships for some time. i also hope that all nations will be smart and not turn the world into a giant fireball. but i woulnt put it past themsupagama said:you missed the part about government collapse when the nukes launch, but you are mostly correctaakibar said:From the modern stand point right now: snip