How do you think World War III will pan out?

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Joeaverage

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There is potential for ethnic and religious conflict in lots of european countries due to immigration. If something like a Team Islam identity got stronger than national identity in a large segment of the population(and if nothing else the muslim population is growing fast) it would be a massive failure of integration and end with a balkanized area. It's always safe to bet on failure.

The world war aspect would come from the fact that if immigration destabilized a country it would not happen to them all at the same time. There would be potential for military interventions, reactions to those interventions etc.

Of course, it might not fail this badly. But this is the doomsayer thread.
 

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SimuLord said:
"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." - Albert Einstein
You stole my quote.
 

tehroc

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I doubt we will reach WWIII. With scientific research growing exponentially I expect either biological agents or nanotechnology will kill off 3/4 to 9/10 of the Earth's population by 2050. It's the only cheap solution to the world's overpopulation and mechanization problems. Eliminating us filth while sparing the Elites, and the lower upper class will be the new asset they seek to control.
 

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I would have thought this was obvious. In the near future the cities of Eurasia will lift themselves of the ground with hydrolic legs to do battle with the Island nations for the earths remaining resources.
 

UnwishedGunz

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well it depends on who were fighting,

russians = nukes
china = giant robots from the future

we'd win against those 3rd world countries, at least think we could
 

joshuaayt

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America will get pissed off at Australian dollar beating it for a week (This will happen sometime soon in the future, see?) and proceed to bomb our favourite Mint.

England would NOT have any of this, so they'll send the chaps around to show America what for. We'll throw England out of the Country, because they brought the French with them and, really, they are lovely people but some of their national pastry delicacies make me feel ill, so now those guys will be floating and attacking America AND Australia.

The rest of Europe/Asia will form a shaky alliance, because everyone seems to be fighting over Australia (The rest of Europe has, uhm, poor hearing, see? Yeah, they can't hear that we are simply being dicks to each other).
This alliance will bomb the shit out of everything, and the very planet will fracture into two distinct halves- these we will denote "Gaia" and "New Gaia".

The inevitable war over who gets to be Gaia, in the end, is what kills us.
 

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I think World War III will work out pretty well...for the cockroaches THAT WILL INHERIT THE EARTH
 

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The war will be waged over resources that could be acquired. But this time the spoils of war will also be its weapons: Petroleum and Uranium. For these resources, China will invade Alaska, the US will annex Canada, and the European union will dissolve into quarreling, bickering nation-states, bent on controlling the last remaining resources on Earth.

Then the storms of world war will come again. In two brief hours, most of the planet will be reduced to cinders.
 

Rawle Lucas

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Nouw said:
How do you think World War III will pan out? (Let's be honest, there is going to be one)
What do you think will spark it to begin? When do you think it will begin? Who will win? What will happen and etc?

This is for a research paper of mine and of course there is no real answer but the thought counts. Plus I'm always curious about what my fellow Escapist's think about a future world war.

-Thanks in advance.

P.S. Long posts very welcome and should this belong in Religion/Politics?
You can get a helpful, serious attempt at an answer from Generational Dynamics. [http://www.generationaldynamics.com/ww2010.htm] The owner of the site predicts something called a "Clash of Civilizations world war" that would principally involve America and China. As an interesting side note, it also predicts a new European war.
 

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I think the US will keep attacking other countries, liberating them if you will, and they'll make a mistake in estimating the force of one country. They bomb (maybe even nuke) them, causing global judging of America. Lots of support from other coutries for the attacked coutry will push the usa in a corner, and, to quote a dutch saying 'a cat in a corner makes weird jumps'
 

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Edorf said:
There wont be another WW, there are far too many alliances and treaties for another WW to even be remotely possible.

Now I've just about had it with all you "OOH!! WE'LL GO NUCLEAR BOMBS AND BLOW OURSELVES UP CUZ I HAVE NO FAITH IN HUMANITY" people...
/rant
You're right. A bunch of alliances can't help but prevent war. I mean look at Europe. They've never had a big war because of tons of alliances.

Sorry if I came off as a jerk, but I just had to point that out. I do agree with your second point. I doubt that the major countries of the world would just go willy-nilly dropping bombs everywhere. Humans have a tendency to act stupider than what was previously thought possible, but by now governments realize that nuking the enemy into the stone age hurts everyone.
 

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shaneriding said:
blind_dead_mcjones said:
penicillin, the jet engine, the internet, computers, telephone, electricity, flight, combustion engine, the TB vaccine. Im sure these were all ideas stolen by the oppressive white man. Nearly half the places were used to dump convicts? I'm guessing you mean Australia and then thought that one in god knows how many must mean half? Also i don't think these people INVENTED clean water and education.

These backwater countries have been destroying themselves for thousands of years, long before the crusades etc. If i am correct it was those who came here first,pillaging and destroying before the crusaders drove them back.

Which Commonwealth countries arent doing well? I cant remember the last time a suicide bomber or car bomb blew up in Ontario, Wellington, Sydney, Mumbai, Los Angeles. It seems to me that they live in their "constitutional monarchies" (and which are still democratic, and for all intents and purposes the Queen has no power over them) quite peacefully with their neighbours. Look at Egypt, one of the largest stable democracies in Africa which was a former British colony. South Africa now has peace (don't mention the Boers - that isnt a result of the British, it was Dutch settlers).

These other countries have been destroying themselves for millenia, not just a few hundred years as you put it. Tribes from Africa would come up into Europe and enslave entire villages before taking them back to their own hell holes throughout the Greek and Roman Empires.

Whilst the British Empire wasnt always good, it brought infrastructure, hospitals, roads, schools etc to many parts of the world. It fought back against the Nazis, Napoleon, Bismarks armies. It abolished the slave trade and introduced many parts of the world to the french idea of democracy. Instead of looking at those who died, look if you can at those who have lived because of it. Those who have had chance to go to school etc.

Whilst I can see that we aren't very likely to see eye to eye please don't piss in my bucket and tell me its raining when you say these countries would be better without us. They need countries like GB, France and USA because without someone steering them in the Humane direction they will continue to oppress and fight amongst themselves like they have for as long as they have existed. They are backwards countries who feel that murder is OK, women are a mans possession and that by blaming everything on everyone else they will get by. Sorry Once people like yourself wake up, stop apologising for everything and realise it isn't all flowers and peaceful singing around a fire, the world will move forward.
You know this guy has got a point. I have to agree with him. And oh yeah, I've got this poem that you might be interested in. It's called "The White Man's Burden" by Rudyard Kipling. And I totally agree with you views on imperialism. Nothing bad has ever come of it.
 

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Irony said:
Edorf said:
There wont be another WW, there are far too many alliances and treaties for another WW to even be remotely possible.

Now I've just about had it with all you "OOH!! WE'LL GO NUCLEAR BOMBS AND BLOW OURSELVES UP CUZ I HAVE NO FAITH IN HUMANITY" people...
/rant
You're right. A bunch of alliances can't help but prevent war. I mean look at Europe. They've never had a big war because of tons of alliances.

Sorry if I came off as a jerk, but I just had to point that out. I do agree with your second point. I doubt that the major countries of the world would just go willy-nilly dropping bombs everywhere. Humans have a tendency to act stupider than what was previously thought possible, but by now governments realize that nuking the enemy into the stone age hurts everyone.
I agree, but shifts in power are innevitable.

For Example:
Someday, China will try to get control of the USA government. They'll keep getting those jobs etc... If one american patriot with a slight mental situation (in a high position) decides to nuke China, we got one hell of a problem.

But I dont think a 3rd WW will come. I do think that someday terrorist will succeed in nuking a part of the USA, and the reaction will determine what kind of conflict will come afterwards.
 

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Oh damn, most of humanity is dead now. Oh damn, the rest is going to be wiped out by radiation seeping across the surface of the Earth. Oh damn, it doesn't matter because we have no crops or food now.

I don't know who will *win* but we are all going to lose if and when the nukes are all fired.
 

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I'm bettin it'll be either, India & Pakistan or North Korea & South Korea or Israel & Iran/Islamic country

and all countries will pick a side and will be nuked to hell eventually....I'm guessing most of Africa will be spared and probably some European countries
 

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shaneriding said:
penicillin, the jet engine, the internet, computers, telephone, electricity, flight, combustion engine, the TB vaccine. Im sure these were all ideas stolen by the oppressive white man. Nearly half the places were used to dump convicts? I'm guessing you mean Australia and then thought that one in god knows how many must mean half? Also i don't think these people INVENTED clean water and education.

These backwater countries have been destroying themselves for thousands of years, long before the crusades etc. If i am correct it was those who came here first,pillaging and destroying before the crusaders drove them back.

Which Commonwealth countries arent doing well? I cant remember the last time a suicide bomber or car bomb blew up in Ontario, Wellington, Sydney, Mumbai, Los Angeles. It seems to me that they live in their "constitutional monarchies" (and which are still democratic, and for all intents and purposes the Queen has no power over them) quite peacefully with their neighbours. Look at Egypt, one of the largest stable democracies in Africa which was a former British colony. South Africa now has peace (don't mention the Boers - that isnt a result of the British, it was Dutch settlers).

These other countries have been destroying themselves for millenia, not just a few hundred years as you put it. Tribes from Africa would come up into Europe and enslave entire villages before taking them back to their own hell holes throughout the Greek and Roman Empires.

Whilst the British Empire wasnt always good, it brought infrastructure, hospitals, roads, schools etc to many parts of the world. It fought back against the Nazis, Napoleon, Bismarks armies. It abolished the slave trade and introduced many parts of the world to the french idea of democracy. Instead of looking at those who died, look if you can at those who have lived because of it. Those who have had chance to go to school etc.

Whilst I can see that we aren't very likely to see eye to eye please don't piss in my bucket and tell me its raining when you say these countries would be better without us. They need countries like GB, France and USA because without someone steering them in the Humane direction they will continue to oppress and fight amongst themselves like they have for as long as they have existed. They are backwards countries who feel that murder is OK, women are a mans possession and that by blaming everything on everyone else they will get by. Sorry Once people like yourself wake up, stop apologising for everything and realise it isn't all flowers and peaceful singing around a fire, the world will move forward.
First of all the British Empire was neither as glorious and righteous nor as evil as either one of you described it. I mean the BE was pretty hard on any form of riot but they did lay the foundations for world trade.
But more importantly the BE never fought back against Bismarks armies because Bismark never did anything to shift the balance of power in Europe to Britain disatvantage. He fougth three wars: One against Denmark which tried to usurp parts of northern Germany(at this point "Britain was humiliated and left impotent, as it was unwilling to commit ground troops to Denmark and failed to receive support from France" - Harold Temperley), one against Austria over the same region and finally the German unification war against France which was over so quickly that Britian didn't had a chance to react (and we won that one too). After that Bismark tried to construct an order of treaties in Europe to make war amongst the great nations impossible (except with France because at that time Germany and France hated the shit out of each other) and was renown as a mediator in European diplomatic affairs.

OT: I think that if WW3 is going to happen it is because of the nearly inevitable economic downfall of the US. Their debt problem is second only to Japans (Greece earlier this year was in a better position debt wise). The EU is a bigger market and grows at a much higher rate, as does Chinas. Because of that and the already great social tensions in the US some president will start a war to distract from the inner problems which goes horribly wrong thus starting World War 3. I would guess that Europe would emerge victorious due to the fact that we have far less nukes and nearly no first strike capabilities which would make us a lesser priority target for nuclear first strikes and our high level of technology. When the other countrys are done nuking the shit out of each other our survining military forces would be able to win in no time.