How Does America Fare to You?
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Cool Rant, bro.Versuvius said:
Well McCarthyism itself has passed but the effects of it on the mindset of the general populace still exists and is apparent... at least in the older generations.creationis apostate said:
OT: I'd give it a 7.5. Good, but needs work.
As a Canadian I can't help but look over at you guys n facepalm more times than I feel should ever be neccisary every country does dumb things here and there but you guys think the rest of the world is starving in the streets half the time. You guys have been in a new war every ten years for god knows how long and your proud of that millitary despite it strangling you all in debt. The final thing that absolutly annoys me to all hell its really stupid but drives me up the freaking wall in every movie tv show comic etc etc it's always america own the world if aliens invade to take over the world where do they go why the white house of course same thing with terorists etc etc etc its always americans own the world, it annoys the hell outta me.
But on a better note you guys have lots of great things going for ya I just think the goverments prioritys are outta wack, always debating over stupid things rather than cracking down on the real issues for example gay marrage is a huge issue there rather than say poverty or somthing else thats actually important.
But ya great country just messed up prioritys and thinks way to highly of itself without even relizing it.
(sorry if it seems like I'm hating just take what I said in a monotone sorta style niether praise nor hate just observation)
6.8/10
But on a better note you guys have lots of great things going for ya I just think the goverments prioritys are outta wack, always debating over stupid things rather than cracking down on the real issues for example gay marrage is a huge issue there rather than say poverty or somthing else thats actually important.
But ya great country just messed up prioritys and thinks way to highly of itself without even relizing it.
(sorry if it seems like I'm hating just take what I said in a monotone sorta style niether praise nor hate just observation)
6.8/10
American politics are pretty sickening to me. I detested President Bush for his reckless spending and trampling over our constitutional principles, but President Obama is even worse in terms of spending, and where Bush actually went to Congress to get the things he wanted passed, Obama's style is far more dictatorial, focusing instead on placing regulations on us through a bureaucratic labyrinth with no input at all from our congressional representatives. We've forgotten a lesson that the early Americans knew and tried to teach us - Anyone who wants political power can't be trusted with it - and we're paying for that mistake.
We've been on a steady decline, both politically and culturally, ever since the ideas of Europe's Fabian socialists started to take root here a century ago. Since then, we've seen a worsening of race relations, ever-increasing debt, constant wars, and the erosion of the freedoms that set us apart in the first place. As a result, the ideals of America, as laid out by its founders, have never truly been tested in the modern world, which I believe is a terrible loss for all people across the globe, regardless of what the outcome would be.
Still, I love the parts of our culture that are still among the most reasonable and civil in the world. I love our devotion to the arts and sciences. I love our fundamental distrust of any powerful authority, our commitment to religious freedom even among fundamentalist circles, and our unprecedented capacity for charity. As much as I wish our governmental policies were different, as long as the spirit of the American people remains the same, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
No numerical rating because that's retarded.
We've been on a steady decline, both politically and culturally, ever since the ideas of Europe's Fabian socialists started to take root here a century ago. Since then, we've seen a worsening of race relations, ever-increasing debt, constant wars, and the erosion of the freedoms that set us apart in the first place. As a result, the ideals of America, as laid out by its founders, have never truly been tested in the modern world, which I believe is a terrible loss for all people across the globe, regardless of what the outcome would be.
Still, I love the parts of our culture that are still among the most reasonable and civil in the world. I love our devotion to the arts and sciences. I love our fundamental distrust of any powerful authority, our commitment to religious freedom even among fundamentalist circles, and our unprecedented capacity for charity. As much as I wish our governmental policies were different, as long as the spirit of the American people remains the same, I wouldn't want to live anywhere else.
No numerical rating because that's retarded.
People should no longer be allowed to be career politicians. Politics was ideally supposed to be a sort of civic duty, like Jury duty.
It used to be that politicians were community leaders who occasionally ran for office. Then, when their term ended, they went right back to work. Now, if you're a senator, that's your career.
There is also the issue that it's impossible to be a politician in this day and age unless you're already wealthy, meaning that the top 10% or so of our country's SES demographic is making policy for the entire country. Couple that with the fact that a lot of big corporations make regular "campaign contributions," and it's no surprise that Washington has no idea what it's actually like to be poor in the US.
It's actually pretty funny when you think about it. The worst thing you can be in the US is a poor white male. Minorities and Women get a lot of support since they have their own lobbying groups, but you will never see a poor lobbying group because (lets face it) they can't afford it.
Overall, America gets about a 6/10 and falling.
It used to be that politicians were community leaders who occasionally ran for office. Then, when their term ended, they went right back to work. Now, if you're a senator, that's your career.
There is also the issue that it's impossible to be a politician in this day and age unless you're already wealthy, meaning that the top 10% or so of our country's SES demographic is making policy for the entire country. Couple that with the fact that a lot of big corporations make regular "campaign contributions," and it's no surprise that Washington has no idea what it's actually like to be poor in the US.
It's actually pretty funny when you think about it. The worst thing you can be in the US is a poor white male. Minorities and Women get a lot of support since they have their own lobbying groups, but you will never see a poor lobbying group because (lets face it) they can't afford it.
Overall, America gets about a 6/10 and falling.
once uppon a time, there was a glorious america. the america of mark twain, abraham lincoln and benjamin franklin. a country made to advance the right of men, a beacon of freedom.
unfortunately, these days are long past. this america made room for the new one, the america of teddy roosevelt, george bush and the superpatriots. the america that exploits, cheats, frauds, murders, starts unjust wars of conquest and lies to the international community about it, maintains concentration camps, disposes of undesired people without any justification, topples democraticly elected leaders and governements to replace them with bloodthirsty dictators.
america today has turned into exactly what it's marvelously wise founders once fought against, a stronghold of opression and exploitation that now is one of the major backwards forces in the advancement of mankind. if george washington could see the america of today, he would probably explode in his coffin like an egg in a microwave.
thus, a 1. 0 is reserved for really obnoxious shit, like saudi arabia hacking of womens hands for painting their nails. one of the closest allies of the u.s., by the way.
unfortunately, these days are long past. this america made room for the new one, the america of teddy roosevelt, george bush and the superpatriots. the america that exploits, cheats, frauds, murders, starts unjust wars of conquest and lies to the international community about it, maintains concentration camps, disposes of undesired people without any justification, topples democraticly elected leaders and governements to replace them with bloodthirsty dictators.
america today has turned into exactly what it's marvelously wise founders once fought against, a stronghold of opression and exploitation that now is one of the major backwards forces in the advancement of mankind. if george washington could see the america of today, he would probably explode in his coffin like an egg in a microwave.
thus, a 1. 0 is reserved for really obnoxious shit, like saudi arabia hacking of womens hands for painting their nails. one of the closest allies of the u.s., by the way.
I'd give it a 9. I live a comfortable life here, there aren't any riots, war, and I'm not afraid to walk the streets at night. It isn't perfect here, but I'd say that this is the best, most free place to live in the world today.
In the United States of America, we have everything. Mountains, oceans, tropical, deserts, arctic, plains, hills, etc. We have access to all consumer goods that don't come from Cuba (or Iran). The people who live here are incredibly diverse, with representatives from all over the world. It's like a global nation.
I don't really like contemporary politicians, but I do like our style of government. A system of checks and balances to make sure our "President" doesn't become "Evil Dictator for Life" and similar scenarios. It's stable, I vote, and pay taxes. I really like the philosophy behind the founding of our country, which is Classical Liberalism.
On the downside, people here are quite fat, many aren't that smart, and even more are apathetic. I don't really blame America for the smartness or the apathetic side because I just assume that is human nature. However, obesity is a huge problem here. It causes just as many problems as smoking, but unlike smoking there isn't some feel good campaign underway to curb obesity.
It isn't perfect (thus no 10), but I do like living here. If I had to pick any country in the world to live in, it would be here in the United States, it would just be in Florida this time instead of New England.
EDIT: I just read a bunch of negative comments about America referring to us as a bunch of Flag waving, gun touting religious fanatics. Let me say this about that: Sarah Palin is NOT representative of the majority of Americans, AT ALL. There are a great deal of us who are reasonable, anti-war, and secular.
In the United States of America, we have everything. Mountains, oceans, tropical, deserts, arctic, plains, hills, etc. We have access to all consumer goods that don't come from Cuba (or Iran). The people who live here are incredibly diverse, with representatives from all over the world. It's like a global nation.
I don't really like contemporary politicians, but I do like our style of government. A system of checks and balances to make sure our "President" doesn't become "Evil Dictator for Life" and similar scenarios. It's stable, I vote, and pay taxes. I really like the philosophy behind the founding of our country, which is Classical Liberalism.
On the downside, people here are quite fat, many aren't that smart, and even more are apathetic. I don't really blame America for the smartness or the apathetic side because I just assume that is human nature. However, obesity is a huge problem here. It causes just as many problems as smoking, but unlike smoking there isn't some feel good campaign underway to curb obesity.
It isn't perfect (thus no 10), but I do like living here. If I had to pick any country in the world to live in, it would be here in the United States, it would just be in Florida this time instead of New England.
EDIT: I just read a bunch of negative comments about America referring to us as a bunch of Flag waving, gun touting religious fanatics. Let me say this about that: Sarah Palin is NOT representative of the majority of Americans, AT ALL. There are a great deal of us who are reasonable, anti-war, and secular.
It's big enough that I can find somewhere to flee from all of the people disagreeable with my temperament. Yeah, there's some stupid stuff that goes down, but welcome to human society. These are growing pains. We're never "done," and people are a wonderfully diverse bunch, so they're going to butt heads until the last one dies.
Can't give it a number, but I'm content. I'm not opposed to testing the waters in other countries, but I'm not fleeing any time soon.
Can't give it a number, but I'm content. I'm not opposed to testing the waters in other countries, but I'm not fleeing any time soon.
well, you have to admit that there WAS a time when america offered an ammount of freedom and philosphical progres pretty much unthinkable anywhere in the world back in the day.Woodsey said:
if you've read my post entirely, you will realize that i believe those days are long over.
Meh, I'll give it a 4.5.
It's a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there what with the way that atheism is still culturally frowned upon, the complete lack of free health care, the active gun culture in most places, the rampant materialism, the complete lack of environmental responsibility, bad education and the strange tendency to butt into other people's business (speaking from about 10 cases of personal experience from various visits).
Also, that whole "beacon of hope" thing? Yeah, that's a little insulting considering that most countries have their own cultures and histories that reach a lot farther back into history than the U.S.A. does.
EDIT: A few more things I forgot. Intolerance of homosexuality, right-wing politics, politicians using religion to get ahead in the polls or sway public opinion, the lack of an unbiased media outlet, the enforcement of the death penalty in some places, the weak currency, the rampant levels of obesity from bad diet and lack of excise, the overly processed food and the lack of decent milk/cheese/tea/bread.
On the other hand, you can still smoke in bars, so +1 for that.
It's a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there what with the way that atheism is still culturally frowned upon, the complete lack of free health care, the active gun culture in most places, the rampant materialism, the complete lack of environmental responsibility, bad education and the strange tendency to butt into other people's business (speaking from about 10 cases of personal experience from various visits).
Also, that whole "beacon of hope" thing? Yeah, that's a little insulting considering that most countries have their own cultures and histories that reach a lot farther back into history than the U.S.A. does.
EDIT: A few more things I forgot. Intolerance of homosexuality, right-wing politics, politicians using religion to get ahead in the polls or sway public opinion, the lack of an unbiased media outlet, the enforcement of the death penalty in some places, the weak currency, the rampant levels of obesity from bad diet and lack of excise, the overly processed food and the lack of decent milk/cheese/tea/bread.
On the other hand, you can still smoke in bars, so +1 for that.
Nyeh, not quite so.Teddy Roosevelt said:
Y'see, you have a big military, but that doesn't mean you're powerful, because you also need to be able to effectively use it. That's something the USA can't do, unlike the UK at the time of Empire, which really didn't care. For example the UK full-on invaded China so we could keep selling them Opium and they'd keep selling us tea. The USA simply can't do shit like that.
australia!?now, i know your just trying to hang out with the cool kids of the escapist.thaluikhain said: