How I would create a game to troll 90% of FPS players
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Nope, I've played both PC and console FPS. That includes Quake Online. That really doesn't appeal to me.yogibbear said:
Done that, been there. They are part of the problem. Halo started the whole 2 weapons slot limit. Counter-Strike is why I started disliking Deagles, AKs, and M4s. And I don't even consider TF2 a true FPS.OhJohnNo said:
No, I definitely wouldn't. The weapons are lethal. Class-based teamwork isn't a part of it, but strategy and tactics are. And it's a shooter rather than a hat collection simulator. It's not like what I have in mind.sethisjimmy said:
That's another thing. Camping should be encouraged as a legitimate gameplay strategy. That would enable true sniper battles.KINGBeerZ said:
some of that stuff sounds like something from the 90,s
I actually HATE auto-aim and I don,t get it why it,s a option in PC FPS,es
also include medpacks instead of auto heal.
I actually HATE auto-aim and I don,t get it why it,s a option in PC FPS,es
also include medpacks instead of auto heal.
Well, based on all your posts so far I can safely say I wouldn't buy this game of yours.MammothBlade said:
If I made a multiplayer FPS game, I would actually remove all sniper rifles (and equivalents) and find a way to make camping impossible without losing the match.
Absolutely not, did you not read the part where I specifically said it wouldn't be some variation of TF2?Sandjube said:
Find a way to make camping impossible without losing the match. i.e, you CAN camp, but it puts you at a disadvantage and makes you an easy target.VladG said:
Not being a game designer, I of course have no idea how I'd actually do this. But eh, pipe dreams.
What you want to do to annoy the FPS crowd is to make a game where all the characters are geriatric soldiers that break a hip every time you move your mouse too fast. You fuck all twitch gamers (that make up the majority of the FPS crowd) right up the bunghole.
And to make the game fun, you make all the soldiers immortal, the only way to stop them is shoot down the zimmer frames and walking canes to immobilize them.
Vehicles come in the form of wheelchairs, but they either make you unable to shoot (faster option), or require a "driver".
Instead of grenades you throw colostomy bags that have different effects depending on your soldier's diet.
There is no quick-scoping because it takes a while to take down your close range classes and equip your sniper glasses and assault rifles are viable because you usually forget where you left your ammo and so you have to conserve the clip.
Either that or ammo is abundant, but you have a limited supply of medicine that keeps your hands from shaking.
And just like in current games, you have the option to turn your hearing aid off just so you don't have to listen to those loud mouth 90-year old whippersnappers.
Cover is available, but once you get in cover you can no longer get up because your back hurts, thus offering a tactical choice between mobility and defence.
It could also have different game modes like:
Capture the Remote -team or ffa- where all the geriatrics rush for the remote control from roughly the same start location. Positioning and planning your movement is key.
King-of-the-spectacles: there is only one pair of glasses on the entire map, the player who wears the glasses gets a clear view, but everyone is playing against him. Whoever gets to take him down, gets to wear the glasses.
Alzheimer's mode: Maps are randomly generated
And to make the game fun, you make all the soldiers immortal, the only way to stop them is shoot down the zimmer frames and walking canes to immobilize them.
Vehicles come in the form of wheelchairs, but they either make you unable to shoot (faster option), or require a "driver".
Instead of grenades you throw colostomy bags that have different effects depending on your soldier's diet.
There is no quick-scoping because it takes a while to take down your close range classes and equip your sniper glasses and assault rifles are viable because you usually forget where you left your ammo and so you have to conserve the clip.
Either that or ammo is abundant, but you have a limited supply of medicine that keeps your hands from shaking.
And just like in current games, you have the option to turn your hearing aid off just so you don't have to listen to those loud mouth 90-year old whippersnappers.
Cover is available, but once you get in cover you can no longer get up because your back hurts, thus offering a tactical choice between mobility and defence.
It could also have different game modes like:
Capture the Remote -team or ffa- where all the geriatrics rush for the remote control from roughly the same start location. Positioning and planning your movement is key.
King-of-the-spectacles: there is only one pair of glasses on the entire map, the player who wears the glasses gets a clear view, but everyone is playing against him. Whoever gets to take him down, gets to wear the glasses.
Alzheimer's mode: Maps are randomly generated
Depends on the map usually. There is one infamous map on Halo: Reach, Sword Base... it's mostly a pretty average map, except for this one place with a gravity lift and a room at the top. People often like to grab a shotgun and sit in this room, shooting anyone who comes up the lift - or anyone who comes through the sole other entrance, the small door. It's an easy way for them to rack up kills without dying.VladG said:
So I suppose, in this hypothetical FPS, I'd make sure the map design in all cases discouraged camping.
So:
TF2
Tribes: Ascend
Halo (minus the AR/Melee)
Unreal Tournament and other arena shooters
CounterStrike (minus the ARs)
Crysis (minus the ARs)
Basically you should have just asked for people to stop using ARs, because all the other stuff has been done quite a bit.
TF2
Tribes: Ascend
Halo (minus the AR/Melee)
Unreal Tournament and other arena shooters
CounterStrike (minus the ARs)
Crysis (minus the ARs)
Basically you should have just asked for people to stop using ARs, because all the other stuff has been done quite a bit.
You should just make a game in which sensitivity is realistically low in every scenario, pissing off the ultra hardcore twitch-shooter players, plus you'll have the excuse that it's realistic!
(disclaimer: all of the following is written from the perspective of Halo's multiplayer)
People always rag on auto-aim, but I actually see it as a positive influence in the FPS genre: my aiming skils are pretty average, however because of the mediating influence of auto-aim, the players less accurate than me shoot almost as well, and the players more accurate than me shoot comparatively not as good as they should: it acts as a handicap that evens the game out, keeps thing challenging for those who would otherwise get bored of mowing down noobs and, most of all, puts more gameplay emphasis on tactics rather than just aiming ability:
With auto-aim, you can be more sure that any given player will have at least SOME ability to shoot you, so you know that if you start shooting at the same time, the likelihood is that you will either both die or you will only just escape and be killed with one shot by the next guy to spot you. This allows players to succeed not only by being able to put a cursor over a hitbox and press a button, but rewards INTELLIGENCE. In a game like Halo, at least, encounters become more about who can, on the fly, make the best use of the environment, who spotted who first and who gave themselves the best predetermined advantage in terms of grenades, weapons and equipment they have on their person.
Basically: in my opinion, auto-aim favours those who are less skilled but more tactical over those who are more skilled but just march into a situation guns blazing because they are confident nobody can out-headshot them.
(disclaimer: all of the following is written from the perspective of Halo's multiplayer)
People always rag on auto-aim, but I actually see it as a positive influence in the FPS genre: my aiming skils are pretty average, however because of the mediating influence of auto-aim, the players less accurate than me shoot almost as well, and the players more accurate than me shoot comparatively not as good as they should: it acts as a handicap that evens the game out, keeps thing challenging for those who would otherwise get bored of mowing down noobs and, most of all, puts more gameplay emphasis on tactics rather than just aiming ability:
With auto-aim, you can be more sure that any given player will have at least SOME ability to shoot you, so you know that if you start shooting at the same time, the likelihood is that you will either both die or you will only just escape and be killed with one shot by the next guy to spot you. This allows players to succeed not only by being able to put a cursor over a hitbox and press a button, but rewards INTELLIGENCE. In a game like Halo, at least, encounters become more about who can, on the fly, make the best use of the environment, who spotted who first and who gave themselves the best predetermined advantage in terms of grenades, weapons and equipment they have on their person.
Basically: in my opinion, auto-aim favours those who are less skilled but more tactical over those who are more skilled but just march into a situation guns blazing because they are confident nobody can out-headshot them.