bl4ckh4wk64 said:
The Historical examples you're giving are from the area we know today as Poland, I don't believe that it was called Poland back then, or was even a country... I thought Modern-day Poland was created after WWI to BE a "buffer zone" between Soviet Russia and the rest of Europe... AP EUROPEAN HISTORY LIED TO ME!!! (...) I'm not insulting Poland, I'm stating that your arguments are false.
What, what, what, WHAT?!
OBJECTION!
I don't even know where did you got that info. Poland as a country officially exists since 966 AD, after Mieszko I, the first ruler of Poland was baptized, and it became a kingdom with it's next ruler, and the first king - Bolesław Chrobry. It lived for better or worse for several centuries, and most of the history facts mentioned by my fellow Pole (Copernicus, beating the Turks at Vienna, etc.) were done by people from the Kingdom of Poland, thank you very much. And those which came during the Age of Particions, were still performed by the Poles, even if they didn't have their own land.
Poland lost their lands in 1795 when Prussia, Russia and Austria took it away, but that didn't mean, Pole's were gone. Oh no, we were still there, and fought for our land, really hard (two major uprisings in 1830, and 1863).
Your "buffer zone" statement is also false. That was the propaganda of the fascist nations, and they said the same thing about Czechoslovakia, Lithuania, etc. The truth is, while Entente approved the idea of recreating Polish country (but they wouldn't even think about it if Roman Dmowski and Ignacy Paderewski wouldn't fight politically for it), it was WE who took our own lands by force in 1918 from Prussia, Austria, Russia, and also Ukraine (Lviv). If the entire Entente just said 'no' to our efforts, we would still had our lands back, thanks to our troops (also, if we would just sit on our asses and wait for Entente's move, we would probably be left with only Warsaw and terrains nearby).
I dunno, how much you Americans learn about Poland, but I assume very little. We only learn about the US Declaration of Independency, and briefly about US war with Brits, and WWII maniacs also teach about their involvement in the conflict, so I take, you don't really learn much about one specific country on one specific continent. I understand that, and I'm not going to call anyone idiot for that. But for Christ sake, check out your facts next time. Also, if someone from other country tells you something about the history of it, you should probably believe him, as he's learning it since primary school. In my case, I'm also a son of two history teachers, so you can bet the paragraphs above are true, I consulted it all with my mom.
Sorry, if it sounded a bit angry, it wasn't supposed to. Also, thanks. I was extremely sleepy (I woke up at 5AM), and your post woke me up perfectly
