How many homophobic people are there actually?

[Phisi]

To be honest I do like it when people say they are proud of their sexuality. It's like those 'Race Realists' who say they are proud of being white. There appears to be some homophobia in my school but that is mostly the delinquents who also call girls sluts and us nerds and losers and whatnot. Oh and there's politicians but they aren't people

 

[waj9876]

I like the fact that I am neither homophobic, gay, or straight, I'm bisexual. I'll admit to usually liking girls, but I've known some guys who I'd like to-...Anyway, my sex-life aside, every single one of my friends are homophobic and racist. I am not even joking.

I guess that's what you get for living in the middle of the United States, the majority act as if they are from the south, but there's enough people who act like they're from the north to not completely ruin the whole state.

 

[Something Amyss]

Q, it really depends on where you live. I'm American, and the US has had elections swing on teh ghey. I see this stuff as controversy every day in my news, frequently on the web (including here), and brought up as a "hot button" topic on my entertainment.

For the elections, a good chunk of the exit polls on Bush/Kerry (US Presidential Election 2004), a huge number of exit polls indicated the population was dissatisfied with Bush on all the major issues, bar two: Gays and abortions. We have states trying to put gay rights up for popular votes over here.

I can't speak for the rest of the world, really.

I think men tend to be more inclined to be "homophopic" and I dont mean that in "men hate gays"

I just mean guys tend to be disgusted by the Idea of male gay sex...to the point of it being a phobia...

obviously not all of them hate gays...

Males are also more inclined to social conditioning that views homosexuality as less than masculine. Implication of homosexuality is also by association an implication of lesser manhood, which is still frequently viewed as bad.

 

[ela365]

Purely in terms of America, it's a huge deal. Be warned, this is a downer of a story, but since you asked:

I grew up in a (stereotypically redneck) city in the middle of the country; there were literally 100,000 people living there, and the easiest way to answer your question is with a story from 9 years ago: My high-school, the biggest school in the biggest school district in a big town, refused to allow us to start a Gay Straight Alliance (an after-school club, like swimming or yearbook). We sued them, said it was a violation of our Constitutional rights. The court held that if any club is approved by the school, then the GSA must also be approved.

And then the school principle cancelled all the clubs. ALL of them. When there was an outcry against that, the entire school district, about 50 schools, cancelled all their clubs too. We sued again, the Westboro Baptist Church people came to hate on us; the city gave them a permit On School Grounds to protest and call us all f**s. Requests for permits for the giant public park across the street to hold counter protests were denied. When people protested anyway, the Westboro people threw things and threatened to kill them, and the cops came and mace'd the people on our side, then arrested them.

At the end of the day, the club founders who were actually gay won millions of dollars in damages, but 1 person was lynched that year, and plenty of us got the s**t kicked out of us too. There are bullet holes from an AK-47 in the side of my parent's old house; when we called the cops, they looked closely at the wall and said 'there are no holes, you must be dreaming'.

Never think this horrible hate c**p doesn't happen; in America, at least, all you have to do is take a wrong turn its not only ok to attack gay people, its ok to attack straight people like me who try to support them.

 

[Something Amyss]

the "slipery slope" argument is bullshit..I cant belive people use it as a justification

But it's so easy to get an emotional reaction with it. I mean, as long as you're not concerned about honesty.

It's a nice way to associate something you don't like with something more generally unpalatable.

Nobody really wants to be seen as pro-pedophilia or pro-bestiality. So you wave them around in the hopes that people will be afraid to speak out.

 

[KefkaCultist]

I guess that's what you get for living in the middle of the United States, the majority act as if they are from the south, but there's enough people who act like they're from the north to not completely ruin the whole state.

Dude, I know! I'm from rural northern Illinois myself and it's embarrassing. It's like we got the worst of both worlds.

OT: I dunno, but I worked a guy who said he had a deep-seeded homophobia, so I found it quite funny that he was friends with me, a closeted bisexual.

 

[Vault101]

snip...

what I find funny is that the Idea of masculinity..to "be a man" is to be tough, to get on with things and dont take crap from people

yet thease "masculine type"...(forgive my language) whenever they are confronted with "teh gay" they act like whiney little bitches who jump up and down and cause a fuss because they are squicked out

like a girl who freaks out and screams/squeals when she sees a mouse,,you want to say "*****, calm the fuck down..its a mouse, its not going to hurt you"

 

[TIMESWORDSMAN]

I live in the Montana, and while homosexuality and bisexuality are generally frowned upon here, they're not really scorned.
I think that it's because in a state with less than a million people, it's difficult to be openly prejudice without being labeled an ass over an 800 mile radius.

::EDIT:: On a completely unrelated and unimportant note, my motto was just featured for like 30 seconds. I have been trying for four years.
I just wanted to tell somebody.

 

[KefkaCultist]

snip...

what I find funny is that the Idea of masculinity..to "be a man" is to be tough, to get on with things and dont take crap from people

yet thease "masculine type"...(forgive my language) whenever they are confronted with "teh gay" they act like whiney little bitches who jump up and down and cause a fuss because they are squicked out

like a girl who freaks out and screams/squeals when she sees a mouse,,you want to say "*****, calm the fuck down..its a mouse, its not going to hurt you"

Your post reminded of this comedian's video:

Not really exactly what you're talking about, but something made me remember this and laugh, so I figured I'd share.

 

[thisbymaster]

Most of the world, majority of China, India, Africa, South America, The Southern states of the USA, etc etc. The people who support gays are in the minority.

 

[Surpheal]

I'm not sure how many homophobic people there still are, but they tend to be able to spout off in larger groups or in the anonymity of the interwebs.

That being said, some places are easier than others and some are way worse, it's still not safe to be a homosexual in the US of A. (I can't comment on the state of other nations because I'm a USican)

I agree with this statement, though up here in Michigan there is not a large enough homophobic community they I know of theta gets all rilled up about the whole communities goings on. But I did hear a few weeks back that Maryland makes nine states to allow gay marriage.

However for what I know for the rest of this country, they like their same sex marriage the way that they like their cuban cigars....

 

[TheVioletBandit]

I have never meet anyone who is actually afraid of gay people. Honestly "homophobia" if it exists at all must be incredibly rare. I am sure there are a a lot of people that think it's gross, unnatural, or even morally wrong, but scary? Nevertheless the term "homophobia" is an interesting use of language as it tries to present the people that dislike homosexuality as afraid and thus weak. I wonder if such a thing as "hetero-phobia" exists or well ever become a word used to describe homosexuals?

 

[Nuke_em_05]

Just like racists; they're still out there, just a lot of them keep quiet about it.

Then again, there are enough of them who are quite vocal about it, at least in the U.S., that it shows clearly in public policy negotiations, so I'm not sure about how inconspicuous it seems to be.

I'm kind of with you in that when someone says "I'm gay" like it's a big deal, I'm like "good for you buddy, and...?". I think the goal should be that it doesn't matter, like I don't run around introducing people to my "straight" sister. It should be that no one cares either way. Unfortunately, many people do care in the negative, for whatever reason, and I think that's what they're fighting to change before it can become "no big deal"; is that it is still a big deal in the wrong way.

Though, I do have to say it gets a little annoying when being gay is the only thing someone has to say about their self. Like this; I'm straight, and that's an important defining aspect of my life, but there's more to me, you know? I don't just tell people I'm straight and expect that to carry the rest of my personality. I'm not like every other straight person out there. There is more to a person who is gay than just their being gay, but it seems that many only focus on that. That could be a bit of a problem (don't get me wrong, it doesn't warrant any hate at all); if a gay person appears to be a "gay person" and nothing else, it can lead to generalization and stereotyping.

(I can't comment on the state of other nations because I'm a USican)

There was a thread earlier about the legitimacy of "American" as a demonym; I think you've just solved the problem.

 

[viranimus]

Quite a large number, of course they do not see it as homophobia so much as being repulsed at the homosexual community shoving their values down their throats in the most visible of ways such as in television, film, games, lit, etc and basically anywhere else where they are being told that if you do not accept homosexuality it automatically means your an ignorant knuckle dragging troglodyte that is hindering societal progress. So naturally few would take the chance to express that position and those who are dumb enough to do so, typically use the dumbest justifications possible in expressing their dissatisfaction.

Simple fact is that most people do not like homosexuality. I mean if you really need the proof to that fact you need only look as far as California when Proposition 8 was voted on and was handily defeated by a ratio that was pushing 60/40 in a very liberal state with a very heavy homosexual presence in certain areas around the coast in the metro areas like San Fran, Los Angeles, San Deigo, etc. and it was still knocked down with relative ease and it basically has taken the decisions of judges to overturn what the people voted for.

EDIT: Lovely.. first post on second page, with a post that will likely be misconstrued as my personal opinion on the subject. Yaaa, let the misquoting begin! /eyeroll

 

[Monkeyman O'Brien]

The real problem, online at least, is that unless you pretty much are willing to personally suck off at least 100 gay men then you are considered a homophobe.
Look at all the half wits to resort to calling people a homophobe if they disagree with gay marriage. I personally am against gay marriage. Does not mean I hate or fear gay people. I am not religious either. I simply disagree with them wanting to change the definition of marriage. Yet you can bet there will be dozens of whiney assholes ready to accuse you of being a bigot for having your own point of view. Same thing happens with the tranny community. If you still consider a post op to be their real sex then you are suddenly a bigot even though you are, factually speaking, 100% right.

The worst thing though is that these stupid bastards are actually damaging the LGBLTTGIFWTFBBQ cause by cheapening one of their few weapons. Calling someone a bigot should be reserved for true hate mongers. Now it is seen as nothing more than another generic insult hurled by a whiney minority who wants to force their POV on others.

I do wish that the escapist would crack down on people calling others homophobes and bigots. Call someone a fag or a wanker or even a troll and you get modded. Call someone a homophobe or bigot or hate monger and they don't do shit.

So in short, there are not many actual homophobes around. Just whiney bitches accuse everyone they disagree with of being one.

 

[Easton Dark]

Enough to make a difference.

Lets work on changing their minds, ey?

 

[Something Amyss]

what I find funny is that the Idea of masculinity..to "be a man" is to be tough, to get on with things and dont take crap from people

yet thease "masculine type"...(forgive my language) whenever they are confronted with "teh gay" they act like whiney little bitches who jump up and down and cause a fuss because they are squicked out

like a girl who freaks out and screams/squeals when she sees a mouse,,you want to say "*****, calm the fuck down..its a mouse, its not going to hurt you"

Hell, I'm still amused how "masculine" and "homoerotic" seem to go hand in hand. Not just hand in hand, but skipping merrily down a rainbow-coloured street.

But yeah, the whiny, bitchy reactions to homosexuality are kind of funny. And weird. It reeks of insecurity.

But hey, at least it beats the violent response.

 

[Something Amyss]

If you still consider a post op to be their real sex then you are suddenly a bigot even though you are, factually speaking, 100% right.

"factually speaking" meaning ignoring the medical and psychological community, but you didn't seem too tied down by things like "facts" and "correctness" anyway.

Considering your propensity for other logical fallacies in that complaint, that is.