How many homophobic people are there actually?
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I am apprehensive when it comes to gay people, I just don't know what to do. However, I don't hate them, nor do I hate anyone
Thank you for proving my point beautifully.Zachary Amaranth said:
You see folks, these people have to resort to petty insults and trying to discredit others without even providing any proof simply because they can not accept that others have a differing (and in my case, better) opinion.
Thanks chap. I will leave you to your whining now.
As someone from the heartland of Missoura, one of the less progressive places you can be, I'd say that I've never met, seen, or even heard of someone who could be considered actively homophobic.
Sure, I know some people who like to make gay jokes, or make fun of homosexuality in general, and they would probably avoid making gay friends. But none of them actually HATE gays; they just see gays as being kinda weird and silly. I guess that's where the term "queer" comes in.
Nobody really takes the issue seriously enough to actively oppose gays or gay rights. None of them really care what other people do in their homes with their free time.
I think in order to actually hold contempt for gays you pretty much have to be some sort of religious extremist.
Sure, I know some people who like to make gay jokes, or make fun of homosexuality in general, and they would probably avoid making gay friends. But none of them actually HATE gays; they just see gays as being kinda weird and silly. I guess that's where the term "queer" comes in.
Nobody really takes the issue seriously enough to actively oppose gays or gay rights. None of them really care what other people do in their homes with their free time.
I think in order to actually hold contempt for gays you pretty much have to be some sort of religious extremist.
Welp, way to sum up my whole argument. Thanks.Nuke_em_05 said:
All I can really say is that I am happy people actually are proud of who they are, despite being against societies graces in some places. I don't find it annoying when someone is proud of being Gay or ETC, I do get annoyed when people pull the "Keep it in the bedroom" card whenever a gay couple shows signs of attraction in [enter public place here] since man / woman kissing their opposite gender love interest is bloody everywhere.
Not to say that they aren't but there's a trend especially with highschool/college girls to claim that they are bisexual when they are not. It for one has a tendency to turn-on most guys and it is seen as something cool and edgy without requiring much of an actual investment.IamQ said:
This is an extremely sad story, thank you for sharing it. I hope your experience hasn't changed you; keep on fighting the good fight and we will win eventually.ela365 said:
That was hilarious! Thanks for sharing. I think I read something about how we say "grow some balls." to someone meaning for them to toughing up, and then we call someone a "pussy" for being weak even though balls are really sensitive and pussies can take a pounding. So that's kind of the same.KefkaCultist said:
You're welcome! You should check out some of his other stuff on youtube. He's not a well known comedian and he reuses some jokes, but he's damn funny.TheVioletBandit said:
Anyway, I think I know what you're referring to. It's a quote from Betty White which makes it more awesome.
Totally derailing the thread right now though since I don't have anything else to add to the discussion.
I see many of my friends feel awkward when talking about homosexuality at all. The only thing they will readily do when talking about being gay is deny that they are. That said, this is a high school in Georgia, but a society "accepting" homosexuals still seems like its a new thing that many people are afraid of and that makes me downright sad.
Well seeing as I live in Western Texas I know several. Racists, homophobes, sexists...I mean just real assholes. I've grown up hearing people say that gay people are sinners and horrible people and they worthless because they can't have kids.
So yeah, homophobes still exist and there's quite a few of 'em and they're not nice people.
So yeah, homophobes still exist and there's quite a few of 'em and they're not nice people.
He said he's 17, so most of those girls are probably just saying they're bisexual because it's the "cool thing".Lucem712 said:
I think there's still plenty of homophobia in the States, and in other places, it's just become less widely celebrated (outside a Santorum For President rally) and it's now seen as wrong. I was reading a graphic novel a while ago called Peachy Keen about two women discovering their sexuality in the mid 50's, and one of the characters was suspended for even having a hint of 'queer' around her. I don't think it's quite that big or direct now, but to say it's gone would be stupid, unfair and wrong. Much like racism, it's become much more secretive now. It's no longer 'Fags shouldn't serve in the military', now it's 'I don't see why we should implement such social changes during war time'. Hell, as a bi guy, I can tell you I get plenty of raised eyebrows when I tell people that. IamQ started this by saying half the women he knows are Bi, and while I'm a bit skeptical of that exact number (unless you live in one of those anime harems) I doubt you know even half of a half of a half of a HALF that many bi guys. In conclusion, until I can walk down any street with a guy with his hand in mine, twisting his wedding ring idly between my fingers, I'm going to say homophobia exists. A huge amount of progress has been made in the last 40 years, but there's still a long, long way to go. (PS, don't get me started on transphobia)
"Homophobia" is kind of a slang term. The more academic term is "Heterosexism."
And yes. Try living in the Bible Belt. I know people who have been beaten up, even killed, for being homosexual. Others are harassed constantly, and even people who think they are "gay friendly" tend to use hurtful or derogatory speech.
I know there's no real reason to mention this, but I cringe every time I see one of these threads. Maybe the OP meant well and was actually curious, but most of the time this question smacks of condescension. Anyone who is bothered by gay people being proud of being gay is probably a little uncomfortable with the topic. And saying things like "So? Is that still the rage these days?" implies that you think it's a fad that you wish would die down, rather than, you know, a difference in brain chemistry and set of permanent social patterns.
But for some reason I always feel inclined to pop my head in and say NO. Until they can get married, until they can adopt children, until they have job security, until they can visit each other in the hospital, until they can live without fear and violence, homosexuals have still got the shit end of the stick, and they don't deserve it. If you want them to shut up about it, join the call for equality and help.
I know y'all have heard this all before, but I can't help but stick my neck out for my queer brothers and sisters. They've been through a lot, and when people suggest they're overreacting and need to keep quiet, it really sticks in my craw.
And yes. Try living in the Bible Belt. I know people who have been beaten up, even killed, for being homosexual. Others are harassed constantly, and even people who think they are "gay friendly" tend to use hurtful or derogatory speech.
I know there's no real reason to mention this, but I cringe every time I see one of these threads. Maybe the OP meant well and was actually curious, but most of the time this question smacks of condescension. Anyone who is bothered by gay people being proud of being gay is probably a little uncomfortable with the topic. And saying things like "So? Is that still the rage these days?" implies that you think it's a fad that you wish would die down, rather than, you know, a difference in brain chemistry and set of permanent social patterns.
But for some reason I always feel inclined to pop my head in and say NO. Until they can get married, until they can adopt children, until they have job security, until they can visit each other in the hospital, until they can live without fear and violence, homosexuals have still got the shit end of the stick, and they don't deserve it. If you want them to shut up about it, join the call for equality and help.
I know y'all have heard this all before, but I can't help but stick my neck out for my queer brothers and sisters. They've been through a lot, and when people suggest they're overreacting and need to keep quiet, it really sticks in my craw.