How should an alien look like?

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Scabadus

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faceless chick said:
Simriel said:
Your englishes is perfic.
Me? Fail english?
That's unpossible!

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Considering english is my 3rd language and that I can spell "you're" , I think I'm well off, thanks for nothing.
The apostrophy in "you're" means that a letter was missed out, meaning it stands for "you are". "You are englishes..." makes no sense; Simriel was correct. I would have let you off but if you're going to get fussy, at least be right.

OK now I actually have to comment on the thread to justify the above sentance.. here goes:

I specifically don't have an image of any aliens that may exist, because in all probability they will be so utterly different to us we can't comprehend them. To our knowledge the creation of life has only happened once in our entire solar system so it's a very rare event. But what if life has started on Mars, or Venus? Mabey even the gas giant Jupiter? Then we would look at Earth and say "lots of water and oxygen? Ha! That will never support life!". Life will adapt to any planet it starts on, Earth is the best planet for us because we started here and have had millions of years to adapt to its climate.
 

Joachim Aachen

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faceless chick said:
Simriel said:
Your englishes is perfic.
Me? Fail english?
That's unpossible!

..
Considering english is my 3rd language and that I can spell "you're" , I think I'm well off, thanks for nothing.
Not sure exactly what part "you're" plays in this as Simriel used the correct form of the word, but whatever.

But anyway. I suppose an alien would look like a shelled cephalopod that could levitate and communicate in multiple languages as long as it first touched the person it wanted to talk to.
 

Aurini

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faceless chick said:
So, we all know there are (probably) lots of aliens out there,
Says who?

The Drake Equation requires a number of unknown variable to be plugged into it; Robin Hanson wrote an extensive mathematical proof showing that the difference between 'gateways' of somewhat-improbable occurrence and extremely-improbable occurence are impossible to distinguish, when you only have the example of one planet where all the gateways were opened. Of all the various steps - abiogenesis, sexual reproduction, multicellular organisms, sentient organisms, technological development, and transhumanism - we only have strong evidence that two of these were probable (the first and third, I believe). While we can't say for certain how improbable the others are, subjective evidence suggests that they might be higly improbable, with a less than 50% chance of occurring during the lifetime of the Universe - our own developed intelligence certainly seems like an accident born of runaway sexual selection, not as an evolved trait to improve fitness in the ancestral environment.

And then, of course, there's the sheer magnitude of time to consider; complex life has been present on the planet for 10 million years, and only for the tiniest fraction of that has there been an intelligent species. That's not even getting into how long earth-like planets have been around. Assuming we don't destroy ourselves, we'll become transhumanists in the near future, begin augmenting our intelligence, and quickly begin expanding throughout the Universe, consuming and storing every bit of negentropy we come across. Even if there is a planet which might one day harbour intelligent life, what do you think the odds are that we'll discover it when we show up? With digitization our thought speed will increase, and even if we limit expansion to 1/10th C, then it will only take us 100 000 years to colonize the entire galaxy.

If any intelligent race had evolved, they would have done this already, and we wouldn't be here; when we eventually do it, it will prohibit the growth of other intelligences. And given that by the time we've colonized the galaxy our intelligences will be to our present selves what ourselves are to a houseplant, chances are we won't be remotely interested in preserving such simple forms of intelligence.

Then of course there's the fact that whatever species we might meet will have drastically differenct morality than us; look up Eliezer Yudkowsky's short story "Three Worlds Collide". Anything we meet will likely be deeply morally disgusting to us, and genocide or forced biological reprogramming will be our only options. We'd better hope that we *don't* meet anyone else out there.
 

MarsProbe

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There was a program on TV a long long time ago that went round the various planets in our solar system, theorising as to what aliens might be like on those planets. It was all very interesting, though I can remember the section on Jupiter.

That was quite odd, the proposed aliens were almost like jellyfish, except with an upper half like a hot air balloon, are at least filled with a gas of some sort.

Really, though I have no idea what aliens would actually look like should we meet them. As such when it comes to aliens, there is also the concept that should we ever actually come across an alien species they would either be so far behind us technology and civilisation wise, we would have nothing to gain from them, or they'd be just as far ahead of us. Of course, Hollywood tells us (for the most part) that the super-advanced kind would just want to wipe us out. I'd rather hope they would just want to communicate, like in Contact.
 

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StarStruckStrumpets said:
Must...not post...picture....of Cthulhu...
http://roberthood.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/cthulhu.jpg

There we go.
 

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RAND00M said:
StarStruckStrumpets said:
Must...not post...picture....of Cthulhu...
http://roberthood.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/cthulhu.jpg

There we go.
Sorry bud, that's not cthulhu, it's one of his star spawn.

http://api.ning.com/files/Mtcj6Uo0B8sOskypODDn9jGorwX-v7uh5PB53T4bdUQ_/cthulhu02.jpg

Ahh much better
 

faceless chick

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Scabadus said:
faceless chick said:
Simriel said:
Your englishes is perfic.
Me? Fail english?
That's unpossible!

..
Considering english is my 3rd language and that I can spell "you're" , I think I'm well off, thanks for nothing.
The apostrophy in "you're" means that a letter was missed out, meaning it stands for "you are". "You are englishes..." makes no sense; Simriel was correct. I would have let you off but if you're going to get fussy, at least be right.
I didn't even notice the "your" in his post until after i replied, i was talking about the overuse of "your" in place of "you're" that is plaguing the internet.
Just like how a lot of fanfic authors seem to think "quite" and "quiet" are the same thing.

I know very well the difference between the 2.
 

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Gaderael

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I was quite entertained by the ideas about what alien life would like presented in Discovery Channel's "Alien Planet" [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_Planet]
 

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All forms are possible, but when we meet it will most likely be bipedal atmosphere breathers. Why? Consider: your the captain of an exploration vessel, you warp to a new solar system that has a gas giant, an ice planet and an earthlike planet. Which would you investigate for possible life first? Also, the opposite: we are that planet, and the alien captain came from a similar planet. Sure there might be jellyvapourbeings in the gas giant, or ice golems in the iceworld, but which would offer the easiest research and communication?

As to why bipedal, cats and dogs evolved similar, yet unrelated limbs according to environmental factors. I think the same applies to other worlds, no?