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omicron1

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Hey folks! Let's practice cooking!

With rumors rapidly escalating concerning Elder Scrolls V (link for anyone who hasn't already seen this [http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-11-23-rumour-elder-scrolls-5-in-the-works]), I thought it would be fun to come up with a concept for what TESV should be... by taking features from other games and combining them piecemeal.

I'll start.
Take FUEL's procedurally-generated, gigantic world. You don't have to have interesting things in every square mile - wilderness adds a lot to the feel of a world.

Add Assassin's Creed's cities - not necessarily the ability to climb walls (although that might be fun for sufficiently high levels of Acrobatics!), but the scale and feel of them. Procedurally generated houses and citizens to rob would be nice, too.

Mix in a healthy dollop of Oblivion's side/main quests. These are the thing I think Bethesda did best last time: giving the player something interesting to do no matter where he looked.

Fold some LOTRO crafting systems into the mix. Fallout: New Vegas' hardcore mode, basically, with the ability to grow your own food.

Garnish with the Thief series' stealth mechanics and toys. These would make the "third pillar" of combat - stealth - much more fun.

Prepare with a tasty side dish of Nethack's randomized dungeons, for truly endless gameplay.


Any more ingredient suggestions? Or should we pop this one in the oven to cook?
 

Fenring

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My perfect TESV would be called TES V: Morrowind GotY Graphical Update Edition and it would be awesome.
 

seekeroftruth86

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Make combat like The Legend of Zelda or Soul Calibur.

Pointing cross-hairs at enemy and clicking until they die just wasn't fun for me. With Zelda style combat, you have a solid targeting system, great marksman possibilities, and potential for better puzzles. If it's like SC, then you have a mini-fighting game in place of the boring, aforementioned combat. The weapon-styles would also be a great opportunity for customization.
 

Chal

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Straying Bullet said:
Remove the outdated engine powering the recipe and replace it by a more technology advanced engine that would improve the animations and other graphical issues that are showing up in Gamebyro.
I have the feeling that we'll be stuck with Gamebryo for the fifth title, seeing as in all odds they've been working on it since Fallout 3 came out. However, I've heard that the company that produced the engine went under. Hopefully we'll see the introduction of some IdTech/Bethesda goodness soon enough at some point between now and armageddon.

EDIT: Oi! Almost forgot the topic at hand. Seeing as the next game is rumored to be in Skyrim, the main thing I want to see is experimentation with elevation. Oblivion felt so flat, and the mountains were only on the borders. I want them to be actual obstacles, with possible (and dangerous!) shortcuts via massive cavern complexes beneath them. Use dungeons as a dangerous method of travel instead of a quick adventure for loot and xp.

I also want to emphasize the "massive" part of the previous wish. I want some goddamn chasms, a la Moria. Oblivion's caves were made up of nothing but tunnels and they end up feeling uninspiring.

Nehrim did well in level design all round, so I encourage any PC owners of Oblivion to validate their purchase by downloading that particular mod.
 

Mr.Amakir

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seekeroftruth86 said:
Make combat like The Legend of Zelda or Soul Calibur.

Pointing cross-hairs at enemy and clicking until they die just wasn't fun for me. With Zelda style combat, you have a solid targeting system, great marksman possibilities, and potential for better puzzles. If it's like SC, then you have a mini-fighting game in place of the boring, aforementioned combat. The weapon-styles would also be a great opportunity for customization.
Ehh no.
 

GodsAndFishes

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Fenring said:
My perfect TESV would be called TES V: Morrowind GotY Graphical Update Edition and it would be awesome.
Same here.

Although I wouldn't mind if they stuck with Morrowind graphics and put all the time that they saved on graphics into more quests/cities/land/paint brushes.
 

TriggerHappyAngel

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1. Grab the Morrowind design document
2. Find a next-gen engine
3. Combine them together
4. Epic Win
 

TheRightToArmBears

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Sober Thal said:
Remove old game from freezer, put in microwave for 3 minutes, serve.

I will be happy if nothing changes, I just want more.
Almost that. But add more stuff (as in armours, weapons, clothes etc) and more voice actors.

I would be happier if they made something more ambitious, but I would still be over the moon with just that. I love Oblivion, in fact, if it wasn't for Oblivion I would never have gotten to this site!
 

blankedboy

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AnAngryMoose said:
Improve the damned combat!
If you're talking about Morrowind, -.-
If you're talking about Oblivion, then I suppose yeah.

How to make it... hmm.
Paste a new land into Morrowind, add several hundred more features, release.
 

Chal

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Straying Bullet said:
Chal said:
I am not one to ***** on Graphics for games that I love, like Morrowind and Oblivion. Sure it looked awesome but it looks outdated now. I still enjoy Morrowind how it is because it's just made for it's time. It was beautiful and immersive as hell.

But for V they have to pull up some extra muscle or I am not purchasing it. Sorry but I am complaining about this engine for a long time now. It was one of the reason I didn't obtain Fallout New Vegas. Not interested in replaying the same engine with the same complaints I had last time.

We will see how this turns out!
New Vegas wasn't developed by Bethesda, though. I have a feeling Obsidian just used what they had to work with. Bethesda improves the engine drastically between flagship releases, just look at the evolution:




Plus, Todd was really excited about their improvement with animation in a recent interview, which has been a failure of theirs since 1986. I think the main concern of mine is if they improve the gameplay over Oblivion, which felt like a step back from Morrowind. If they do that, I can live with the instability of Gamebryo for one more release.
 

Baralak

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Things I want:
-Quests that matter. You want me to believe this is a real world? As it is, Bethesda's never made a game, just a sandbox for people to make a game with. The only Elder Scrolls game I've ever really enjoyed was Daggerfall.

- a decent 3rd person camera. The 3rd person camera in the past games was just trash. Give me a good, flowing third person camera.

- A reason to do stuff. Let me make friends and enemies in towns. I don't mean people with a full "Like" bar, I mean people who will randomly come up "Hey! I found this sword on sale, and thought you'd like it!" While my reputation is low, I want thugs and gangsters to try and mug me.

- more than 5 voice actors, please.

- Combat was fun in Oblivion, but they cut out so many great weapons, like spears.

- Let me fly and learn Teleport spells! Get rid of quick travel! You want to keep me enthralled, then let me rent a horse ride or something. Quick Travel is trash.

- On another note, let me jump and climb up ropes, and walls and the like. Dark Messiah of Might and MAgic did it, and it's first person. In fact, forget my combat comment. Just put Dark MEssiah's combat in.


Also, I REALLY agree with the guy who made the comment about caves sucking.