How to freshen up Call of Duty: Stop using Americans

[TheIronRuler]

In the WWII games you played certain levels as the three "major" allies. US, UK and Russia. With Modern Warfare I, Russia kind of became the bad guys so that left the US and the UK. With Modern Warfare II the UK guys became some sort of International task force and you kind of lost the UK identity. Now it's the Americans, Price who is apparantly his own country now (and deservedely so) and some SAS missions. I was actually surprised they added the SAS missions. So with the story being what it is they kind of lost that three point of view thing they had going on in the beginning. I agree that it would have been great to play as soldiers from around the world. It really would have added to the whole "Modern Warfare" theme.

I also think they could have added even more countries. The thing is the world isn't only Europe and the USA. I haven't played the whole game so feel free to correct me or answer to let me know but, where are the Asian countries? For that matter where are the other NATO allies like Canada or Israel. They promoted it as WWIII and from I played it was just America and Europe.

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I think that playing as Italians or Israeli Soldiers would be grand. Just sayin'

 

[TheIronRuler]

For the sake of shaking it up with a different perspective, and let me be clear, this is just something I've thought would be somewhat interesting, what if one of the games had you play as a Nazi soldier at one point?

I'm not certain, but I think that would actually make the game illegal in Germany.

I'm not certain either, but I can think of one possible way around this conundrum. Germany's allies.

Hungary, Romania, Slovakia, Croatia, Finland, Italy, even the volunteer Spanish Blue division.

There are plenty of ways to tell the Axis story without having to directly play as a German, or even having to go into great depth on the thorny Holocaust issue. All that takes is not to portray an SS Einsatzgruppen unit. Though you could touch on it because Einzatsgruppen units did borrow men from the Wehrmacht (with official sanction from the top brass) to help carry out their duties.

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Finland and Italy would be amazing to play as. Play as the Finns in the Winter War versus Russia and play as the Italians in north Africa as they try to stop the allied invasion in Sicily. You never see the Winter War in any games (Well, you can't say it was so exciting, I suppose that playing as a normal guy with a bolt action rifle walking around with his dozen friends and disrupting Russian supply convoys and patrols...)

 

[TheIronRuler]

I know I'm biased but how about the Australians in the pacific. We did quite a lot there.

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Meh... I want to see the British fighting in Burma versus those ancient Japanese Tanks.
Bicycle brigades !

 

[Vault101]

I mean (yep..going back to that old chestnut) Alyx vance....EVERYONE* loves alyx vance..

Careful with the logical fallacy. I found her no more interesting the Gordan.

and plus..in any given situation is it really that hard to empathise with "holy shit! shoot shoot! gotta kill the enemy before I die!"?....such as in Aliens or Terminator 2?..

Here is where it gets tricky. Ellen Ripley was about as characterized as a walnut soaked in vinegar. She could have just as easily been a dude and it would have made no difference to anyone.

So why not just slap tits on the playable character and make them No-Personality-Magoo? Because the lowest common denominator, white males aged something or other would rather think that they are the protagonist rather than be forced to play as something they can't really relate to. So the female characters either have to be immaculate, or interchangeable with males as long as they are not playable.

Yes, it's sad, but go on a literature forum and see the rage induced at how poorly writers write female characters. And this is on literature forums...

ahh you see the asterisk there, I was going to add a footnote (*within reason, obviously) however I forgot by the time i was done ranting, I know not everonye loves half life or alyx vance

I know obviously it has somthing to do with demographic here, and the men in thease games arnt exactally compelling as charachters anyway

in regards to ellen riply, while you have a point (sort of) I dont think the "interchangable gender" charachter thing is so bad, because being female doesnt always have to define a charachter...because non-feminine females do exist

sure logically it shouldnt make any difference..but for me "It just kinda does" Fallout 3/NV and espeically Mass effect are improved greatly because I can play as a female

also because a female is somthign different to whats usually on offer in games..the male option for Mass effect doesnt bother me so much because its male..it bothers me because it "Mr short haird brown white male" that you see in every game..blaaagghhhh

then again there are exceptions..issac clarke and gordon freeman I really like..so yeah

 

[TheEmoSpeeds666]

If COD want to continue, they need to show either a war in the far future where there is no such thing as America,or a different era history FPS like Korea or Vietnam where you play as the underdog non-American side.

 

[Mantonio]

Haven't played through all of MW3, but so far the main, recurring Special Forces badasses have all been British. Not American.


If anything, it would be 'wanking over the Union Jack'.

Price's team consists of him and Soap on the run (because everyone thinks they're terrorists because they killed General Shepherd) and Russians who don't like Makarov's rule. So two Brits + Russians.

Apart from that, you have one mission where you're playing British forces (Mind the Gap) and every single other mission? You're playing the Americans! Delta Force and all that nonsense!

"wanking" - evidence OP is not American. so OP, are you just mad they didn't use your nationality in any of the levels?

'Wanking' is British word. Silly.

 

[Dandark]

I think a older call of duty game did this when it was still WWII. I can't remember it's name though.

 

[SwagLordYoloson]

What about you're Hitler and it's an RTS? Where you win every battle and still lose?

Hearts of Iron III

Is that what you were looking for? I had a hard time trying to hold back the Nazis but I guess if I played as them I would encounter a similar situation that you described xD

 

[TerribleAssassin]

How about Call of Duty finishes up the planned but never implemented British campaign from World at War. Then focus on the next project, where you play as a Army doctor serving in the Second Anglo-Afghan War, where you end up being fatally wounded at the end.


If you get that reference, which isn't a hard one to deduce (another clue there), I love you and you will get x1000 cookies

 

[GonvilleBromhead]

How about Call of Duty finishes up the planned but never implemented British campaign from World at War. Then focus on the next project, where you play as a Army doctor serving in the Second Anglo-Afghan War, where you end up being fatally wounded at the end.


If you get that reference, which isn't a hard one to deduce (another clue there), I love you and you will get x1000 cookies

I don't think he was fatally woundered, considering what he did afterwards

 

[krazykidd]

I'm one of those weirdos that bought MW3 and only played the singleplayer. On the whole I found it fun (even though it suffers from the same infuriating problems as its predecessors), but one thing really ticked me off.

See, the first mission is in New York, and you're playing as the Americans. So far, so standard. Next, you're with Price and the International stuff, again something expected. Then you get to the London level, and you're playing the SAS. So now I'm thinking that you're going to play as different nationalities throughout the game.

Nope, next level it's the Americans again. The Paris level? You don't see a single French unit around (sans 7 GIGN soldiers, who are only around for 2/3s of the first of the two Paris missions. The German levels? There are a few German tanks that show up in one tiny segment, but once again it's completely dominated by the Yanks.

There was a huge missed opportunity here! They could have shown us a much broader, intense spectrum of the whole conflict! We could have had some time playing the French, or the Polish or the Germans! Hell, what about the Czech resistance? They were awesome in that one level in Prague, why couldn't we play as them for a bit?

They had the chance to make this interesting, but instead it's all about America saving the day again. And quite frankly, I think they need to stop wanking over the stars and stripes.

But that's just my opinion. What do you think?

Edit: I forgot! That one mission where you're playing a bodyguard of the Russian President! That one mission is EXACTLY the sort of thing I'm talking about! It was great!

If you want to play as any soldier that isn't american , you are surporting terrorism!

OT: Seriously though , it would be nice to play as something other than american , i guess, but it woulsn't change much in terms of gameplay. You would just be wearing different clothes and using different guns . Isn't that just an aestetics thing? I think CoD needs something more than just aestetics , it needs a more compelling story, actions with consequences and things like that.

 

[TerribleAssassin]

How about Call of Duty finishes up the planned but never implemented British campaign from World at War. Then focus on the next project, where you play as a Army doctor serving in the Second Anglo-Afghan War, where you end up being fatally wounded at the end.


If you get that reference, which isn't a hard one to deduce (another clue there), I love you and you will get x1000 cookies

I don't think he was fatally woundered, considering what he did afterwards

He recovered over time, and I think you maybe on the way for a cookie or two! ;D

 

[Durgiun]

It would be hella funny if in the next CoD you played as Al Qaida. Who's with me?

 

[GonvilleBromhead]

How about Call of Duty finishes up the planned but never implemented British campaign from World at War. Then focus on the next project, where you play as a Army doctor serving in the Second Anglo-Afghan War, where you end up being fatally wounded at the end.


If you get that reference, which isn't a hard one to deduce (another clue there), I love you and you will get x1000 cookies

I don't think he was fatally woundered, considering what he did afterwards

He recovered over time, and I think you maybe on the way for a cookie or two! ;D

In that case, it's elementary

Doctor Watson.

Unless you'r muddling the First and Second Afhan Wars, and you're referring to Dr William Brydon