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Danzavare

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Yosharian said:
ravenshrike said:
Since you're attempting to pull a PUA stunt, whether or not you successfully disguise yourself as a non-creep, the reality of the matter is that you are a creep.
Gah... trying... not... to... rage

SO STUPID!

It's not creepy to want to go out with someone! Grow up!
If your reasoning is rooted solely in looks (Or any similarly superficial reasoning) then yes, yes it is creepy.

Don't get me wrong, looks can (and likely do) play a role, but if that's all you've got you're a creeper.

Trust me, "Perdy gurl" is not a grown up state of mind~! ;D
 

Prismatic Baron

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Danzavare said:
Yosharian said:
ravenshrike said:
Since you're attempting to pull a PUA stunt, whether or not you successfully disguise yourself as a non-creep, the reality of the matter is that you are a creep.
Gah... trying... not... to... rage

SO STUPID!

It's not creepy to want to go out with someone! Grow up!
If your reasoning is rooted solely in looks (Or any similarly superficial reasoning) then yes, yes it is creepy.

Don't get me wrong, looks can (and likely do) play a role, but if that's all you've got you're a creeper.

Trust me, "Perdy gurl" is not a grown up state of mind~! ;D
Which is why you are asking to spend time with them in a setting where you can learn more about their personality. Has the concept of dating just been lost to time?
 

Dimitriov

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Prismatic Baron said:
Danzavare said:
Yosharian said:
ravenshrike said:
Since you're attempting to pull a PUA stunt, whether or not you successfully disguise yourself as a non-creep, the reality of the matter is that you are a creep.
Gah... trying... not... to... rage

SO STUPID!

It's not creepy to want to go out with someone! Grow up!
If your reasoning is rooted solely in looks (Or any similarly superficial reasoning) then yes, yes it is creepy.

Don't get me wrong, looks can (and likely do) play a role, but if that's all you've got you're a creeper.

Trust me, "Perdy gurl" is not a grown up state of mind~! ;D
Which is why you are asking to spend time with them in a setting where you can learn more about their personality. Has the concept of dating just been lost to time?
Gotta agree with that. For all the people saying it's creepy: the OP didn't ask how to bang some random chick, he asked how to initiate social contact and have a chance at seeing her again.

A first date IS how you learn about a person.

You guys seem to have the idea that buying someone dinner entitles you to have sex with them: now THAT'S creepy.

You don't have to know someone to ask them out for coffee or to go for a walk or something: the purpose of these activities is to talk and get to know the person.

Sheesh /endrant
 

Vault101

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RAKtheUndead said:
feycreature said:
You know what's even better for confidence and self-esteem than never being rejected? Realizing that rejection doesn't make you a worse prospect, or less attractive, or less worthy of love.
You know, that doesn't really work when pretty much every woman you meet treats you like an automaton or a child (if a precocious one) at best, and a barely-sapient, grotesque, horrific monster whose very presence violates the laws of the universe at worst. The way I've been treated by the vast majority of women in the course of normal conversation doesn't exactly convince me that making the first move is ever a good idea.

Maybe when women stop treating me like a misshapen freak, I'll be convinced that I'm not a bad prospect, monstrously unattractive and that for me to ever receive romantic satisfaction isn't a profound violation of the laws of logic and sense. I'm not holding out hope, though.
we'll stop treating you like one when you stop acting like one...

...oh dont act like you dont, I've read your posts, your the godamn reverse troll
 

Danzavare

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Yosharian said:
Danzavare said:
Yosharian said:
ravenshrike said:
Since you're attempting to pull a PUA stunt, whether or not you successfully disguise yourself as a non-creep, the reality of the matter is that you are a creep.
Gah... trying... not... to... rage

SO STUPID!

It's not creepy to want to go out with someone! Grow up!
If your reasoning is rooted solely in looks (Or any similarly superficial reasoning) then yes, yes it is creepy.

Don't get me wrong, looks can (and likely do) play a role, but if that's all you've got you're a creeper.

Trust me, "Perdy gurl" is not a grown up state of mind~! ;D
Utter nonsense. 95% of all human contact on this planet is rooted solely in looks. And that applies for women as well as men.

Women just like to pretend it isn't so they can take the moral ground. FACT!

(and some guys do this as well but its rarer, most just admit it =p)

Which is why statisticians get all the girls. xD

That kind of mindset is childish. That's like the people who buy 'pick up guides' and use them as gospel. Your statistic is meaningless. It does not do anything to show that relationships founded on a superficial beginning are healthy. It'd be like me quoting that 50% of marriages end in divorce instead of making a case. Even if we accept most people are superficial and are happy to continue relationships that why, it does not suddenly make them good relationships or something we should suggest to others.

Statistics coupled with cynicism are not an appropriate substitute for stronger foundations to a relationship.

Prismatic Baron said:
Danzavare said:
Yosharian said:
ravenshrike said:
Since you're attempting to pull a PUA stunt, whether or not you successfully disguise yourself as a non-creep, the reality of the matter is that you are a creep.
Gah... trying... not... to... rage

SO STUPID!

It's not creepy to want to go out with someone! Grow up!
If your reasoning is rooted solely in looks (Or any similarly superficial reasoning) then yes, yes it is creepy.

Don't get me wrong, looks can (and likely do) play a role, but if that's all you've got you're a creeper.

Trust me, "Perdy gurl" is not a grown up state of mind~! ;D
Which is why you are asking to spend time with them in a setting where you can learn more about their personality. Has the concept of dating just been lost to time?
I'm not arguing that dating should not take place, I'm arguing that if you don't want to seem creepy basing it on a passing glance and 'she's perdy' doesn't cut it. Surely you don't mean to imply that superficially picking out 'perdy' strangers is the best or only way of getting to know someone? With college clubs/societies, classes, community events and the like getting to know someone isn't as alien as people are assuming it to be.

In other words, it's possible to know someone before trying to initiate a relationship and far less creepy if you have reasons outside of looks to want to date.

Dating doesn't have to be a forced process, it -should- be a natural progression in a relationship.
 

Smooth Operator

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Lilani said:
I dunno, as a female I find it rather creepy when a guy asks me out the first time I've met him. Even if he knows me--even if he sees me every single day on the way to class--the fact of the matter is I don't know him. What reason do I have to even consider accepting his proposal? I know nothing about his character, and I've been given no time to even consider him or think about how I feel about him. It's really rather selfish and a bit conceited when you think of it from that perspective; expecting a girl to not only consider you for a romantic relationship, but also hope for a positive response based solely on your having prior knowledge on her and liking what you see. How about just trying to make friends first, rather than demanding a relationship from the get-go? I mean, what if she doesn't even want a relationship at the time?
Well this sounds very odd to me, because I come from a time where dates are about getting to know people... the Delorean must have messed up again.

If she/he doesn't want a relationship then the answer is "No" to the date and the subject is closed, simple and to the point, if they wanted to be just friends then they wouldn't be asking for a date.
 

Abedeus

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CODE-D said:
Focksbot said:
Good lord people.
As you walk past the person, lock eyes with them.
Don't avert your gaze or turn your head.
If you do, you've gunked it up.
Attractive women are used to guys looking away. It takes a confident, strong man to keep the gaze.
She will pursue you after.
That's it.
Not kidding.
No "IM SORRY CREEPY LOLOL HI THERE WATS UR NAME". Isn't it annoying already when you get those people on campus with clipboards asking you for your signature, name and credit card number? Imagine some random girl blindsiding you like that.
It strikes a really awkward feeling.
I've gotten girls flustered this way countless times.
*Presses Enter*.
What if your walkin the same direction..? And she walks past you at a faster pace. No time for eye contact and if you try to catch up itll come off as creepy.
You FORCE HER to turn your way LIKE THE MAN YOU ARE.

And wear a gas mask for the incoming pepper spray/bear mace.
 

The_ModeRazor

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-Look at her for about 1-3 seconds.
-Look away 'cause you ain't never gonna have a girlfriend.
*forever alone*

Works pretty well for me.
 

Abedeus

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Yosharian said:
ravenshrike said:
Since you're attempting to pull a PUA stunt, whether or not you successfully disguise yourself as a non-creep, the reality of the matter is that you are a creep.
Gah... trying... not... to... rage

SO STUPID!

It's not creepy to want to go out with someone! Grow up!
Problem is, in my language there doesn't seem to be an expression as simple as "go out" that has a suggestion of dating without asking for a date.

We either have "let's go to a date" or "let's go somewhere casually without any implications".
 

Skulltaker101

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Ah good, a chance to use this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLPZmPaHme0

This may not actually be a reliable method. Frankly I'm unpracticed at it, but try some possibilities in the mirror, try to gauge how creepy or otherwise what you're saying is. I don't recommend taping it and playing it back. That always comes across as a bit off. Anyway, good luck mate. What you're doing here takes a quad.
 

Lilani

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Mr.K. said:
Well this sounds very odd to me, because I come from a time where dates are about getting to know people... the Delorean must have messed up again.

If she/he doesn't want a relationship then the answer is "No" to the date and the subject is closed, simple and to the point, if they wanted to be just friends then they wouldn't be asking for a date.
Yosharian said:
Yep, that's kind of my point.

It's not weird or creepy to want to meet new people. If someone makes the effort to come up and speak to you, even if its to say 'hey, wanna go for a coffee sometime?', you should respect the bravery it took to do that and consider whether it might be fun, not reject it out of hand simply because OMG YOU DON'T KNOW ME BOY.

Women just aren't up for meeting new people when it involves some effort or risk on their part. Hence why a lot of guys (me included, and it has worked very well thanks) have to resort to learning how to game women just to get a chance at meeting one. Don't blame us, it's your fault. And yes, there are some generalisations here, not all women are like this, yes I know.
I don't have a problem meeting new people. I love talking to strangers, making small talk and the like. What I DON'T like is people who want to initiate a romantic relationship before I know anything about them other than their name (if that, even). And I understand that dates are intended to get to know people better, but I don't even want to "date" someone until I am familiar enough with them to at least have a comfortable friendship. Because if you can't be friends, how on earth are you supposed to be a couple?

I always told myself I'd never go out with someone unless I saw some potential to marry them. And you know what? This last April, I got my first boyfriend. And we're still going out to this day. I met him last October, realized I liked him in February, and finally got the nerve to do something about it in April.

The longest lasting relationships I've seen throughout my life all started out like that. First as friends, then as they get to know each other on that casual level building on that foundation into something more. Not some cheesy pick-up lines, or stalking them for a while and then jumping them with an introduction and an offer for a date out of the blue. And I understand he may or may not be "the one"--that's why we aren't married. We're still in the trial period, and it will be a few years before we decide if it's time to take it further--if we decide to do so. But in that waiting period, I just didn't feel like wasting my time riding mini-rollercoasters of emotion and getting caught up in the drama of flings. Giving my heart to anyone who shows the faintest interest has no appeal to me.

I want my relationships to be founded on something deeper than that, and I think if the guy has any interest in that sort of a relationship he will take the time to get to know her and allow her to get to know him before asking any more. I don't care if it seems like I put too much thought or emotion into this. I wouldn't have it any other way. I know I'm not the only one.
 

Supertegwyn

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I have no idea, but I had this weird German girl ask me out (in Germany). At least, I think she asked me out. She was smiling at me and looking.... slutty? I couldn't understand a word however so I just left quickly.

It was awkward.
 

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DarkRyter said:
Go up to her. Wave your hand in front of your face a few times. State that you are invisible.

She points out that you are not invisible.

Act shocked and introduce yourself to change the subject.

Initiate Swag.
You're watching Simple Pickup aren't you?:p
 

CODE-D

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ravenshrike said:
Abandon4093 said:
ravenshrike said:
Since you're attempting to pull a PUA stunt, whether or not you successfully disguise yourself as a non-creep, the reality of the matter is that you are a creep.
There's a difference between being a pick up artist and being sociable.

Establishing communication is part of normal social behavior. Not everyone who gets a date is a douche.
Look, setting up some sort of date with a girl you just met is fine. Even giving her your number as long she's not giving you the "get away from me you creep" death stare is fine, but going into the encounter with the EXPRESS PURPOSE of getting her number when she's just walking around at the mall or across campus is decidedly creep behavior. At a bar it's different, because the setting is by definition sociable. But what the OP is trying to do is PUA territory.
Not all of us go to bars. Dont PUAs go to bars specifically. Besides a bar should be no different than anywhere else just cause you think its sociable, I think the people there are already there with someone or theyre friends they wanna be with making it really no different than anywhere else. You just happen to feel comfortable doing it there.


Also, are you saying campus' and malls arent sociable places, it seems bars are more creepy especially when alcohol and drinks are involved. So to you going up to a girl alone in a dim bar with EXPRESS PURPOSE is any better. Yours is a lot creepier to me than public daytime at school.
 

ShindoL Shill

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IndomitableSam said:
Follow the script below, and alter to your needs:

"I've seen you around campus and I think you're very (pretty/interesting/outspoken/compliment it seems she'd appreciate). I don't want to be creepy, but is it ok if I give you my email address/number to text? My major is _____ and I (hobbies/sports/whatever so she knows you're not a loner or whatever you've seen her interested in), and maybe you'd like to come (watch/participate/etc) sometime? If you're interested, here's my email." And hand her a scribbled note. Don't ever have it pre-prepared. Creepy as shit if a guy pulls out something with his number on it. Just have some paper folded in your pocket, pull it out, rip off a corner and write down your number. Then it's up to her. Just be charming and casual about it, like you might ask other people, but you do really want her to be there.
what if you are a loner/don't participate in group sports?
joeman098 said:
i personally find Hello to the be best =D I dono make an observation about her come up with some bull like your sisters birthday is comeing up and you think she might like that hat she is wareing and ask where she got it and continue from there
i myself prefer 'Hi'. but yeah, just talk about shit (not literally or the anti-creep has failed. or she's into weird stuff... or maybe is studying something which would involve prolonged contact with shit, i dunno maybe medicine/pathology (do they need to check the poo? is there like a poo-ologist?) but still don't mention shit! first.)