how to prevent the RRoD...

[LWS666]

so, i recently found out that, the main reason the 360 RRoDs is because there's a game disc in the drive when it's off. it also scratches the disc. this is because when it's on the fan keeps the heat away from the prosessor. when it's off the heat i meant to escape through the disc drive, but a disc will prevent that and keep the heat in ruining the 360 and disc.

just wanted everyone to know.

 

[ThatOneJewYouNo]

That's cool to know. I guess I'll have to go remove Fallout 3 from my 360 just in case, it's been acting funny lately... Hmm. Peculiar.

 

[farmerboy219]

Best way to prevent it is too buy a ps3, haha. -joke-

The best thing to do is too install all your games to the hard drive. then the console is quieter, less heat and there is no danger of scratching the disc

 

[Trivun]

I never had my game disc in the console when it was off, I always take it out (after bad experiences as far back as the old PS1). I still had the RRoD. Hence, no offence OP, but your argument is flawed. It's already been shown that the problem is due to ovrheating, it melts some chip inside or something, leading to a complete hardware failure and the 3 red quadrants that show. Which is why the Falcon motherboard was created and used in future mahines to avoid the problem, using a better cooling system and so on to avoid this chip melting. At least, that's how I understand it thanks to MS tech support...

Put simply, you have a nice theory there, it's just wrong, sadly.

 

[Satin6T]

best way is to love and respect it

only play it in bursts, and most of all
make sacrifices to bill gates regularly

 

[LWS666]

I never had my game disc in the console when it was off, I always take it out (after bad experinces as far back as the old PS1). I still had the RRoD. Hence, no offence OP, but your argument is flawed. It's already been shown that the problem is due to ovrheating, it melts some chip inside or something, leading to a complete hardware failure and the 3 red quadrants that show. Which is why the Falcon motherboard was created and used in future mahines to avoid the problem, using a better cooling system and so on to avoid this chip melting. At least, that's how I understand it thanks to MS tech support...

well, i used to leave the discs in my machine but then the laser that read the discs got ruined and i found out that that was the problem.

 

[.Warheart]

I have had two xboxes so far, one is from the launch and has had the overheating RRoD, but this was for sure due to overheating and bending of a chip on the motherboard.
In my new MW2 edition Xbox there's a new motherboard installed with a different kind of power feed and this one is built not to succumb to the heat problems the earlier Xboxes did.

 

[Antiparticle]

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I always remove the disc from the drive when I'm done playing, so this would not be a problem for me anyway.

 

[aPod]

Good to know, i often put two or three disc in there before i turn it off so this will be helpful indeed.

Hooray im not like everyone else!

Still good to know.

 

[Kramcake2516]

Ive had RROD twice with my elite even though guy in shop said it wouldnt get it....git lol
first time it happend was when i set the bomb of in megaton in fallout the Graphics chip died second time disc drive died. TBH i dont realy see how leaving a disc inside would damage it if that was the case just playing it damages it lol

 

[Frenger]

There is no heat(at all) when the unit is powered down. No source other than the OP. Not to mention that my discs are in the same condition as when I bought them.

Reminds me of the NES cassettes...

 

[AcacianLeaves]

I think what the OP is saying is that you should install your games to your hard drive, which makes some sense - but not because of disc scratches. Disc scratches would not cause a system hardware failure by any stretch of the imagination, unless scratching the disc caused it to shoot laser beams into the console.

If anything it's just easier on the system to play from the hard drive rather than the disc. Less heat generated while playing, less hardware involved means less chance for a hardware failure, etc.

 

[flaming_squirrel]

when it's off the heat i meant to escape through the disc drive, but a disc will prevent that and keep the heat in ruining the 360 and disc

Yeah because unpowered components produce heat.

I sense a flaw in your completely unfounded theory.

 

[LWS666]

when it's off the heat i meant to escape through the disc drive, but a disc will prevent that and keep the heat in ruining the 360 and disc

Yeah because unpowered components produce heat.

I sense a flaw in your completely unfounded theory.

when you turn the box off, the heat doesn't just magicly dissapear. it'll hang around for a bit, and won't escape if there's a disc. plus, you've probably noticed your discs getting scratched for no reason? it's because of this.

 

[sidereal_day]

so, i recently found out that, the main reason the 360 RRoDs is because there's a game disc in the drive when it's off. it also scratches the disc. this is because when it's on the fan keeps the heat away from the prosessor. when it's off the heat i meant to escape through the disc drive, but a disc will prevent that and keep the heat in ruining the 360 and disc.

just wanted everyone to know.

Sorry man, doesn't sound right. Having rebuilt a RRoD FAILBox I might have a little unique perspective on this. In this pic:

[http://s195.photobucket.com/albums/z245/The_Darkness62/Project%20XBox%20360/?action=view&current=0724092318.jpg]

You will see in the top right corner a white plastic "scoop" this directs heat away from the CPU/GPU to the back of the case. This was an attempt by Microsoft to fix the RRoD problem in earlier models. Obviously it does not work too well, but in any case hot air does not even pass through the DVD drive. I am sure heat gets into the DVD drive but that is just a part of the FAILBox many design flaws. The real problem is that the case is far too small and compact, and the cooling unit for the system far too inadequate. The heat builds up inside, the solder points melt at that heat level, the truly awful designed X-Clamps warp the board and separate the GPU from the motherboard thus the E74 error, the system can no longer communicate with the GPU.

The towel method, blocks what little cooling there is on the system and stresses the components even more. When done repeatedly will cause even worse damage, as it was with the FAILBox I bought for $40. Made for a little more work than just replacing the X-Clamps with washers and screws, but in the end I got a working FAILBox... which I never use... XD Had a great time repairing though, that is about all the fun I had with it.

Anyway, one of the worst designed hardware I have ever seen, and that is saying a lot, I used to work for Gateway... ROFL!!!!

I don't get it. Do you think your FAILbox joke is clever or something? You said several times, as if each time it got funnier and funnier.

 

[James Hueick]

good to know

 

[SnowCub]

when it's off the heat i meant to escape through the disc drive, but a disc will prevent that and keep the heat in ruining the 360 and disc

Yeah because unpowered components produce heat.

I sense a flaw in your completely unfounded theory.

when you turn the box off, the heat doesn't just magicly dissapear. it'll hang around for a bit, and won't escape if there's a disc. plus, you've probably noticed your discs getting scratched for no reason? it's because of this.

Yeah he meant the heat that's still around, not heat being produced.

Im not sure about your theory though. And the discs getting scratched? Im not sure heat can scratch discs...

Best way to prevent it is too buy a ps3, haha. -joke-

The best thing to do is too install all your games to the hard drive. then the console is quieter, less heat and there is no danger of scratching the disc

Last time I checked you still have to keep the disc in the console whenever you want to start a game from your hard-drive. Makes sense, since otherwise there would be no reason to even own the disc itself, it would be a free-for-all pirating invitation

The most common problem with 360s scratching discs is what's called laser burn. This is because of the 360 being knocked when a disc is spinning and the laser which read the discs literally burns into it causing a scratch all around the disc.

Installing to hard drive prevents this as the disc in the drive is just a presence check to prevent piracy, and the disc doesn't actually spin while the game is playing. Also... lie your xbox down people. Standing it up is asking for your discs to be scratched.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

My steps that have so far worked on a three year old 360:

Keep it elevated, away from carpets and horizontal. (I use a stack of 8 VHS cassettes)

Keep it away from the wall behind it.

Keep all vents free, none covered.

Switch off and let cool down every 2 hours or so.

So far, so good.