How we get rid of sexism (And by extention these god awful threads)
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Says you, and please can you tell us how you know that's a lie?Easton Dark said:
Are you saying that all the sources explaining the differences in how the sexes use their brains are wrong? - please, don't stop with just a stupid comment, back up your claim or shut up.
http://www.mastersofhealthcare.com/blog/2009/10-big-differences-between-mens-and-womens-brains/
No one ever likes my answer to that question, which is usually that Bowser apparently has pretty damn good offense, shitty defense, and at least decent prison facilities. See: Super Princess Peach where Bowser kidnaps Mario and you play as Peach going to rescue him (I'm going to ignore for the moment that instead of powerups she has extreme emotional states as her primary ability). Apparently he can kidnap Mario without much trouble, he'd just rather have an attractive politically powerful woman over a fat plumber? Apparently he can hold Mario captive too, so we have to assume that Peach doesn't save herself for the same reason Mario doesn't save himself -- Bowser's actually pretty good at keeping captives, and should probably be contracted out to handle Mushroom Kingdom prisons. Also, given it's ruled by a Princess, shouldn't it really be the Mushroom Principality anyways?IndomitableSam said:
It's also worth noting that in all the Mario-related spinoffs that Peach plays right alongside the guys, and in SMB2US had the best jump.
We could also start calling them Gamer Girls(tm), since that approach is entirely OK and not offensive to girls that merely happen to be gamers (if no one caught it, this is the thing that started with the term Nice Guys(tm) where it was argued it was entirely not offensive to anyone who didn't display the specific behavior in a specific description of the term). Or we could just call what people referring to Gamer Girls(tm) are talking about by what it actually is: female attention whores using gaming solely or primarily as a vehicle to draw attention to themselves and thus fulfill their desires, and is thus a mostly to entirely distinct group from the set of gamers who are female, while specifically taking note of their relative rarity -- the perception that they are in any way frequent is similar to the "men who are or desire to be involved with children in any way are pedophiles" one.Mr. F said:
I always find it interesting that only female-related or female-targeted insults are gendered, but male-related or male-targeted ones are somehow not gendered. You call a woman a term for female genitals or a female dog, and it's a gendered insult. You call a man a term for male genitals, the act of or resultant fluid produced by male masturbation, or a male beast of burden and those aren't gendered.Mr. F said:
My attitude?Easton Dark said:
Sorry, but weren't you the one who came in here and called me a liar, because I mentioned something that you disagree with?, or were not aware of?
Women are better at dealing with emotions, men are better at dealing with logic - is there something offensive in me saying that!. It's not personal experience, scientific fact is not influenced by what you happen to have experienced, and sometimes people know stuff that you don't, so deal with it and remember that when trying to rebuff peoples comments.
There is nothing wrong with my attitude, other than my dislike for being called a liar with no backup, no facts, no retort other than someones wrong opinion that they know better.
I saw nothing wrong with his attitude. You flat out told him he was lying about something that is simple fact, not opinion. I don't know how you would react to that, but I know I would respond a little defensively. Also, I'd say he'll do pretty well around here. He backed up his commonly known fact with a decent source. After all, you've been around for a while and you seem to be pretty abrasive. Based on just this exchange, of course.Easton Dark said:
THIS is the answer.Fappy said:I think this is a somewhat relevant clip:
(The last bit isn't all that relevant though. I'm still going to call women "women and men "men".)
My standing ovation to you:
I have the perfect solution to [social issue]!
Everyone start thinking like me, but nobody talk about it, all at once.
Go!
Everyone start thinking like me, but nobody talk about it, all at once.
Go!
It's not fact though! Note what I quoted. All men are not more logical and all women are not more emotional because their brains are different, it was a lie.DRes82 said:
And that's the kind of thinking that started this whole sexism thing. You label the sexes as one thing or another without thinking of them as individuals. Brain signals aren't the same between one person or another, regardless of if they're the same gender. If you want other doctoral opinions, talk to psychologists. If they don't follow the Freudian style of psychology (majority don't) they don't treat or talk to men and women differently based on sex, but based on their actions and their lives as people.
I'm out.
You say it's a lie, all I'm doing is regurgitating scientific proof. I know that everyone thinks differently, and to be honest I find most science to be pretty arrogant when dealing with things like thought processes, instincts, the stuff that makes us human. It's really all we have though, and to me it makes sense.
My whole point on the sexism debate is that people need to accept that they are human. We can have all the good intentions and good attitude in the world, but it doesn't change our instincts as humans. We are what we are, political correctness is just another way for us to comply.
Maybe, people who are easily offended should try to be more objective, if they put in the same effort as most people put into not being offensive, then we would have a helluva lot less butt hurt in the world.
My whole point on the sexism debate is that people need to accept that they are human. We can have all the good intentions and good attitude in the world, but it doesn't change our instincts as humans. We are what we are, political correctness is just another way for us to comply.
Maybe, people who are easily offended should try to be more objective, if they put in the same effort as most people put into not being offensive, then we would have a helluva lot less butt hurt in the world.
There is a point here, but you missed it slightly. True, some brains DO function differently, but it's not due to gender. Believe it or not, it involves hand dominance. This might sound a little weird, but let's delve into the subject a little, shall we?surg3n said:
Our brains are made up of two hemispheres - the right side and the left side. The left side of the brain is the more logical, or "thinking", side; while the right side is the more emotional, or "feeling, side. Due to how our nervous system works, a side of the brain controls the opposite side's arm. Now, we need both sides of our brain, since each has its own functions, its own personality, its own specialties and, in reference to subject I mentioned, its own hand - but both sides compete for dominance. Generally speaking, people with a dominant "thinking" brain are right-handed, and those with a dominant "feeling" brain are left-handed.
If what you said is true about the logical and emotional differences between men and women, then there should be more left-handed women than men - yet, this is not the case. At present, the current percentage of left-handers is roughly 10% and of that percentage, 3% are women. Now, you could argue about the different chemicals that each gender has and what effects they have on each. I'm no expert in that subject nor can I recall off of the top of my head anything concrete or relevant to back up what different chemicals do in our bodies (with the exception of DMT, I did study that for a time).
IMO, I just call everyone 'human' and be done with it. It is kind of interesting to note the differences we all have, but I've come to find it more interesting to see the similarities in our differences and take note of them.
1. Chivalry? Why? What possible good could come from eliminating chivalry? I realise females can open doors for themselves, it doesn't mean they don't appreciate it every once in a while.
2. You cannot call a guy a slut or whore and expect it to go unlaughed at. There are women-only insults in the same way there are men-only insults.
3. Can girls please stop calling themselves girl gamers as well? That's really half the problem as far as I'm concerned.
Other than that, yeah, seems like a good plan to me. Except that it's not going to work, because some people just can't wait to play the morally indignant crusader at every opportunity.
P.S. 4. Are there actually people who cite having a cock as a reason for not doing housework? I mean, there are some misogynist pigs out there, but really, give the human race some credit.
2. You cannot call a guy a slut or whore and expect it to go unlaughed at. There are women-only insults in the same way there are men-only insults.
3. Can girls please stop calling themselves girl gamers as well? That's really half the problem as far as I'm concerned.
Other than that, yeah, seems like a good plan to me. Except that it's not going to work, because some people just can't wait to play the morally indignant crusader at every opportunity.
P.S. 4. Are there actually people who cite having a cock as a reason for not doing housework? I mean, there are some misogynist pigs out there, but really, give the human race some credit.