How will Shepard defeat the Reapers in Mass Effect 3? (Huge spoilers)

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AndyFromMonday

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TheDoctor455 said:
Actually, I kinda thought ME2 touched on their true motivations... (massive spoiler warning)
when it was revealed that the collecters were melting the colonists down to make a human reaper. Now, this is either, as EDI suggested, their means of reproduction... or it is their strange way of "preserving" a sentient race... and was it just me... or did the human reaper change gender based on what gender Shepard was? Made me think that they intended to base the human reaper's AI off of a slightly altered version of Shepard's personality...
The Reapers take the form of which race they're using to create it. The Human-Reaper larva looked like a human because thousands of humans were processed in order to create it.

And they are not preserving sentient races. When a Reaper is activated, he/she inherits only the memories of the thousands of beings that were used to create it. The Reaper itself is still a machine, but a machine with thousands upon thousands of memories.

I'm guessing that's why The Collectors wanted Shepards body, since basing the AI of the Reaper on a very smart human with a powerful personality that managed to defeat Saren, his Geth alies and Sovereign is a smart idea.
 

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robman1130 said:
is it just me or im i the only one saddened by the fact that the next game means the end of the series?
not necisarily i hope they make a spin off that allows you to play as any of the alien species

krogans are fucking awsome
 

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i think the reapers use organics for fuel so my answer

wait it out, keep them out, then clean up the mess
 

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With a little more time, Mordin will figure out a way to make the seeker swarms completely harmless for everybody. Grunt will probably help sire a line of 'perfect' Krogans, and along with Wrex ally all of the krogans under the Urdnot banner. Tali will lead the migrant fleet back home. Miranda will have to face her father. Liara will find and defeat the shadow broker. Jack will probably track down some of the other subjects from her childhood home and have a small army of super biotics. Miranda will confront her dad. (I'm guessing Ambassador Udina)

Basically, all I'm saying is, everyone has a part to play in building up Shep's forces to take on the reapers. Shep will also meet the illusive man face to face, probably discover that he's geth, kill him, and then have access to all of Cerberus' information; which will ultimately lead to the destruction of the reapers.
 

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An all out war with all the galaxy V reapers.

Blasto the Hanar Spectre will be kicking ass left right and centere.

Also, I want to see what Quarians look like before it ends.
 

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Crazy idea: Peace. Somehow some kind of deal is brokered that neither all sentient organic life in the Galaxy, nor the Reapers, have to be destroyed. I'm not quite sure how it would work, but given that the Reapers have demonstrated themselves to be more than unintelligent animals, I'm sure they can be persuaded/coerced/tricked. Perhaps that would be the wily Paragon's ending?

EDIT: It would be an odd ending, but a good one - saving lives that would be lost in the war at the cost of an uncertain future. The Reapers would probably have to bugger off though. Can't have them hanging around the Citadel - it would be weird. Maybe you could set them loose on another nearby galaxy? That would make it a massive Renegade move though, letting everyone someplace else die so you can avoid fighting the Reapers!
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
I'm pretty sure Bioware's not going to make ME3's plot the generic "LET'S FIND THE SUPERWEAPON AND OWN EVERYTHING!"
I'm fairly confident that they won't, given their track record (and Christ, do I hate it when game people and movie people and other people run out of ideas and go, "ah, screw it, let's just have the hero track down and press a magical Make Everything Better Now button").

I'm guessing that the third game will sorta-kinda be like the second, except that instead of building a team to fight Collectors, you're building a huge galaxy-spanning armada to fight the Reapers, and all of your decisions from the previous two games come back into play (did you save the Rachni, did you save the Geth Heretics and get Tali and Legion to make nice, did you keep Mordin's friend's data about the Krogan genophage, etc.).

At least, that'll probably be the Paragon route. If you're a Renegade who let the Council die and teamed up with Cerberus, then maybe you'll just have to hope that the Illusive Man can build some kick-ass human ships with whatever he finds in the Collector base.
 

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latenightapplepie said:
Crazy idea: Peace. Somehow some kind of deal is brokered that neither all sentient organic life in the Galaxy, nor the Reapers, have to be destroyed. I'm not quite sure how it would work, but given that the Reapers have demonstrated themselves to be more than unintelligent animals, I'm sure they can be persuaded/coerced/tricked.
I've liked the "peacemaker" ending in other games/series/etc., but I don't see how it could work in Mass Effect, given that the Reapers' entire existence is based on the destruction of organic life--even their reproduction depends on converting millions of unwilling beings into pulp. And if there was some way for them to get by without killing people, it still seems unlikely that they'd go for it, since they're used to being the Absolute Rulers Of Everything Since The Beginning Of Time and You Exist Because We Allow It You Will End Because We Demand It-y and all that noise.
 

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He won't need to.

They are dying already.

That is why they are trying to evolve by using DNA from organic species.
 

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rockytheboxer said:
With a little more time, Mordin will figure out a way to make the seeker swarms completely harmless for everybody. Grunt will probably help sire a line of 'perfect' Krogans, and along with Wrex ally all of the krogans under the Urdnot banner. Tali will lead the migrant fleet back home. Miranda will have to face her father. Liara will find and defeat the shadow broker. Jack will probably track down some of the other subjects from her childhood home and have a small army of super biotics. Miranda will confront her dad. (I'm guessing Ambassador Udina)

Basically, all I'm saying is, everyone has a part to play in building up Shep's forces to take on the reapers. Shep will also meet the illusive man face to face, probably discover that he's geth, kill him, and then have access to all of Cerberus' information; which will ultimately lead to the destruction of the reapers.
Mordin is dead for me. I would go back and try to change it, but I'd rather let whatever happen be it.

I highly doubt the Illusive Man will turn out to be geth. He seems to sincerely want the best for humanity (to the point of human dominance). I'm getting that from what little we heard from him in ME1 and from the Ascension novel. I'm more willing to bet that Shepard wasn't really brought back "exactly the same". The Illusive Man is taken to lies and withholding information. I thought that he might try to make a deal with the Reapers (similar to Saren), but he seems too smart for that.

Things that I find interesting: There is the possibility that Shepard dies in ME2, which could me that the third game might feature a new main hero. Also, I'm curious to see how the reprogrammed heretic geth (if you did so, which I did) play a role in the third game. It would be awesome to see them turn against the Reapers, who they once thought of as gods.
 

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DustyDrB said:
Mordin is dead for me. I would go back and try to change it, but I'd rather let whatever happen be it.
Mordin died my first time through, but I replayed it to save him. I couldn't let my favorite new character die.
 

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theres at least 2 reapers dead, and im going to take a stab at it and say harbinger is the leader of the whole hermit crab looking reaper fleet, so kill harbinger, the rest get mind fucked, and then Shepard has to chose if he should scrap the whole lot of them or put them under his control.

and somehow he will get laied on the reaper ship, because you know, he cant keep the ladies (Or guys... Garrus...) off of him!
 

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The Bioware forums are swimming with these threads right now lol. Anyway I really hope it has something to do with sacrificing Earth the Citadel... that would be some "emotionally engaging" hardcore shit right thar.
 

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AndyFromMonday said:
You'd think they'd put some fail safes in place to prevent people from using the information stored inside.

Reverse engineering could work but the weapons themselves won't exactly pack a punch against an army of overpowered squid robots.
You'd think that, but they didn't put fail safes within the Keepers to stop the Prothean's from changing the citadel signal.

I agree that the weapons won't work all that well on the Reapers since it is based on their tech.

I think the fight will be scary as fuck and I am terrified of what's going to happen in Mass Effect 3. In my opinion the Reaper's greatest weakness is their arrogance and they do seem to overlook a lot of things, such as organic ingenuity, they also never ever thought that any species would be able to pass through the Omega-4 relay and that happened albeit only once but it happened. I'd like to think that the galaxy isn't prepared for the Reapers, which is true to an extent, but also I don't think the Reapers are prepared for what they are going to face either.
 

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DustyDrB said:
rockytheboxer said:
With a little more time, Mordin will figure out a way to make the seeker swarms completely harmless for everybody. Grunt will probably help sire a line of 'perfect' Krogans, and along with Wrex ally all of the krogans under the Urdnot banner. Tali will lead the migrant fleet back home. Miranda will have to face her father. Liara will find and defeat the shadow broker. Jack will probably track down some of the other subjects from her childhood home and have a small army of super biotics. Miranda will confront her dad. (I'm guessing Ambassador Udina)

Basically, all I'm saying is, everyone has a part to play in building up Shep's forces to take on the reapers. Shep will also meet the illusive man face to face, probably discover that he's geth, kill him, and then have access to all of Cerberus' information; which will ultimately lead to the destruction of the reapers.
Mordin is dead for me. I would go back and try to change it, but I'd rather let whatever happen be it.

I highly doubt the Illusive Man will turn out to be geth. He seems to sincerely want the best for humanity (to the point of human dominance). I'm getting that from what little we heard from him in ME1 and from the Ascension novel. I'm more willing to bet that Shepard wasn't really brought back "exactly the same". The Illusive Man is taken to lies and withholding information. I thought that he might try to make a deal with the Reapers (similar to Saren), but he seems too smart for that.

Things that I find interesting: There is the possibility that Shepard dies in ME2, which could me that the third game might feature a new main hero. Also, I'm curious to see how the reprogrammed heretic geth (if you did so, which I did) play a role in the third game. It would be awesome to see them turn against the Reapers, who they once thought of as gods.
I haven't beat the game yet but I'm more concerned about EDI and her black boxes than I am about any modifications to Shepard. Miranda already said that they were not allowed to do anything that would alter Shepard's personality, so I suspect a "zombie" mode is out of the question. I suspect that Illusive Man may turn out to not be as evil as we have been led to believe.
 

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shadow skill said:
DustyDrB said:
rockytheboxer said:
With a little more time, Mordin will figure out a way to make the seeker swarms completely harmless for everybody. Grunt will probably help sire a line of 'perfect' Krogans, and along with Wrex ally all of the krogans under the Urdnot banner. Tali will lead the migrant fleet back home. Miranda will have to face her father. Liara will find and defeat the shadow broker. Jack will probably track down some of the other subjects from her childhood home and have a small army of super biotics. Miranda will confront her dad. (I'm guessing Ambassador Udina)

Basically, all I'm saying is, everyone has a part to play in building up Shep's forces to take on the reapers. Shep will also meet the illusive man face to face, probably discover that he's geth, kill him, and then have access to all of Cerberus' information; which will ultimately lead to the destruction of the reapers.
Mordin is dead for me. I would go back and try to change it, but I'd rather let whatever happen be it.

I highly doubt the Illusive Man will turn out to be geth. He seems to sincerely want the best for humanity (to the point of human dominance). I'm getting that from what little we heard from him in ME1 and from the Ascension novel. I'm more willing to bet that Shepard wasn't really brought back "exactly the same". The Illusive Man is taken to lies and withholding information. I thought that he might try to make a deal with the Reapers (similar to Saren), but he seems too smart for that.

Things that I find interesting: There is the possibility that Shepard dies in ME2, which could me that the third game might feature a new main hero. Also, I'm curious to see how the reprogrammed heretic geth (if you did so, which I did) play a role in the third game. It would be awesome to see them turn against the Reapers, who they once thought of as gods.
I haven't beat the game yet but I'm more concerned about EDI and her black boxes than I am about any modifications to Shepard. Miranda already said that they were not allowed to do anything that would alter Shepard's personality, so I suspect a "zombie" mode is out of the question. I suspect that Illusive Man may turn out to not be as evil as we have been led to believe.
Like I said, the Illusive Man is prone to lies and withholding information. He would do that to Miranda just as he would anyone else. He's like Mass Effect's version of Benjamin Linus (of Lost). He doesn't fit any definition of good or bad, but he's always got a plan and knows more than he lets on.