How would you dissuade someone from committing suicide?
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if we're talking on the bridge about to jump and Im thier I'd scream at him/her(which would be something in and of itself as I rarely raise my voice) to come down and cut me because if you take the cowardly way out, your gonna leave a mental scar on me that'll never go away and they might as well leave me a physical one to go with it
but if the're just mopey and depressed I'd try to talkem up, hang with them and get them out of the funk they're in. and if that didn't work they do it and nothing else would stop them
but if the're just mopey and depressed I'd try to talkem up, hang with them and get them out of the funk they're in. and if that didn't work they do it and nothing else would stop them
What I did with a guy I was talking to on skype (Long story) was repeatedly emphasise that it was illogical to commit suicide, since things could always get better but it was over if he did it, and that he should seek some professional help, but do not try to force someone, just kept reminding them of their options and that it could get better. (The doctors have then from what I gather proceeded to make a right assup of his case, but its out of my hands now)
i would tell the guy that when he will fail his attempt, he's gonna get really badly hurt... so unless he's a Sadomasochist, i don´t think he wouldn't consider this.
like this:
-Dude if you fail, you get fucked up!
-Oh shit you're right!
like this:
-Dude if you fail, you get fucked up!
-Oh shit you're right!
Yeah losing people sucks. A partner is hard to lose but I feel more sorry for her mum - losing your own flesh and blood would be on a whole different level of fucked. People will do what they want at the end of the day though. Others shouldn't feel responsible for them, everyone is in charge of their own body. All you can do really is say "I'm here if you need me".Nanaki316 said:
Tell them "If you want to be a pussy and quit now, then go ahead."
Sounds heartless, but if someone was that desperate to throw in the towel, they'd have in done it before I got there anyway.
It's also in some small way, reverse psychology I guess...
Another method I'd use is probably the whole "If you want to kill yourself that badly, fine, just be aware that I'm not leaving, I'm going to see this happen..."
I always figured that'd probably throw someone off the idea of doing it...
Sounds heartless, but if someone was that desperate to throw in the towel, they'd have in done it before I got there anyway.
It's also in some small way, reverse psychology I guess...
Another method I'd use is probably the whole "If you want to kill yourself that badly, fine, just be aware that I'm not leaving, I'm going to see this happen..."
I always figured that'd probably throw someone off the idea of doing it...
Tell them how selfish they're being?
A little more seriously I was actually in an exam earlier which was about the idea that characters in fiction are moore 'real' than we are because they always 'are' someone, whereas we always 'were' or 'will be' someone. Point is I realised that always changing and growing is a great thing because it means life is never stale or stagnant, it's unpredictable and we always get faced with new challenges and choices every day, making life fun
So I'd probably tell them something along those lines
A little more seriously I was actually in an exam earlier which was about the idea that characters in fiction are moore 'real' than we are because they always 'are' someone, whereas we always 'were' or 'will be' someone. Point is I realised that always changing and growing is a great thing because it means life is never stale or stagnant, it's unpredictable and we always get faced with new challenges and choices every day, making life fun
So I'd probably tell them something along those lines
I would not dissuade anyone from comitting suicide. I would instead make sure that the person was sure it was what he or she wanted.
In the end, suicide is an option that should be decided by the suicidee, not the people around him/her. Telling a miserable person that they can't kill themselves because it will hurt the people around them, is a bullshit move. A man can't live his life for others. We need to respect the fact that people's lives and bodies are their own, and, ultimately, what they do with it is their choice. Some say that we should prevent people from offing themselves, because they aren't right in their minds if they want to kill themselves, but I reject the notion that we have the right to judge whether one person is sane just because he doesn't share our values or oppinions.
No, I would sit down with the person. Talk things over. I would tell him that if he ends things now, he will never esplore the possibillity of things getting better. Death is the neutral outcome - once you're dead, you don't feel anything anymore. So while it's the escape from pain, it's also the escape from joy. I would say that if they have the determination and means to commit suicide now, why not wait a bit, see if we can clear up this mess. Suicide is always an option, and he or she can always do it later, if they still want to. The knowledge that they can always kill themselves at any point can be a very powerful motivator to keep going, actually, and provide some comfort. I know this, because I've been there.
Now, this is my ideal. Whether or not I can live up to it, is another story. I fully expect that if someone close to me was on the edge, I'd do everything in my power to prevent it, no matter the person in question's wishes. It would be selfish, I'd be doing it for me, so that I'd keep a loved one, but I suspect I couldn't beat my own emotions.
Also, someone on the first page said that an important thing is to be there for people - that physical presence alone can do more than words. I very much agree with that. In the darkest period of my life, I spent a lot of time with a girl I knew. We wouldn't actually do much together, we'd just be in the same room, doing seperate things, not speaking much. That helped me a lot, being able to be aroun others, without any responsibility or pressure to be social.
In the end, suicide is an option that should be decided by the suicidee, not the people around him/her. Telling a miserable person that they can't kill themselves because it will hurt the people around them, is a bullshit move. A man can't live his life for others. We need to respect the fact that people's lives and bodies are their own, and, ultimately, what they do with it is their choice. Some say that we should prevent people from offing themselves, because they aren't right in their minds if they want to kill themselves, but I reject the notion that we have the right to judge whether one person is sane just because he doesn't share our values or oppinions.
No, I would sit down with the person. Talk things over. I would tell him that if he ends things now, he will never esplore the possibillity of things getting better. Death is the neutral outcome - once you're dead, you don't feel anything anymore. So while it's the escape from pain, it's also the escape from joy. I would say that if they have the determination and means to commit suicide now, why not wait a bit, see if we can clear up this mess. Suicide is always an option, and he or she can always do it later, if they still want to. The knowledge that they can always kill themselves at any point can be a very powerful motivator to keep going, actually, and provide some comfort. I know this, because I've been there.
Now, this is my ideal. Whether or not I can live up to it, is another story. I fully expect that if someone close to me was on the edge, I'd do everything in my power to prevent it, no matter the person in question's wishes. It would be selfish, I'd be doing it for me, so that I'd keep a loved one, but I suspect I couldn't beat my own emotions.
Also, someone on the first page said that an important thing is to be there for people - that physical presence alone can do more than words. I very much agree with that. In the darkest period of my life, I spent a lot of time with a girl I knew. We wouldn't actually do much together, we'd just be in the same room, doing seperate things, not speaking much. That helped me a lot, being able to be aroun others, without any responsibility or pressure to be social.