how would you make a better sonic game?

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Archaon6044

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i wouldn't start? there don't need to be any more sonic games, he's been done to death. they're all just variations on the same thing now, except maybe with a new gimmick thown in to entice fanboys
 

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Oh, and tell Sega not to fuck up the level design. Sonic Rush and Sonic Rush Adventure were mostly fine, save for the irritating CROIKEY chirpings of the Aussie... badger? Beaver? What was she again, an otter? A squirrel? Jeez, what was she... anyway, other than the fact that most of the levels were jumped up over stylised bags of crap that loop-de-looped their way so fast that you ended up dying from going too fast or falling into the oblivion death trap WHICH THEY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN RID OF AFTER SONIC 1 IMHO (I always think I'm telling you all I'm a ho when I write that), they were alright. At least they seemed to think about level design. A little. Well, it was more than they did in any of the 3D titles anyhow. We need to get rid of the Sonic Homing-in Attack too. That sucked ass, but mainly because Sega fucked up the controls past Sonic Adventure 2 when it kinda worked but still DIDN'T.

Issues with the camera could all be solved by KEEPING IT 2D. Shall I say that again? I don't need to it's OBVIOUS, SEGA. YOUR GBA TITLES WORKED BECAUSE THEY WERE 2D. YOUR MEGA DRIVE TITLES WORKED BECAUSE THEY WERE 2D. YOUR DS TITLES (occasionally) WORKED BECAUSE THEY WERE 2D (with 3D graphics). ALL OF YOUR 3D TITLES DID NOT WORK BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT 2D.

Seeing a pattern? Yes. Good. Now then Sega, you have 2 weeks to convince me you've taken all of this in because you'll be tested on it all in the final exam.
 

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Archaon6044 said:
i wouldn't start? there don't need to be any more sonic games, he's been done to death. they're all just variations on the same thing now, except maybe with a new gimmick thown in to entice fanboys
I wouldn't start either. There are more than enough sonic games, and the last few didn't even turn out that well... Nintendo/ Sega needs to stop milking all of their franchises into oblivion... A completely original idea wouldn't hurt them every once in awhile... Then again, they did make the Wii...
 

Tegual

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one in which can kill the blue furball hundreds of different ways, other than that this dead series really sould be put to rest.
 

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Sir_Montague said:
Archaon6044 said:
i wouldn't start? there don't need to be any more sonic games, he's been done to death. they're all just variations on the same thing now, except maybe with a new gimmick thown in to entice fanboys
I wouldn't start either. There are more than enough sonic games, and the last few didn't even turn out that well... Nintendo/ Sega needs to stop milking all of their franchises into oblivion... A completely original idea wouldn't hurt them every once in awhile... Then again, they did make the Wii...
We should give Sonic one more chance (ignore the black knight and anything else announced), and let Sega prove they aren't all thick and can make another good sonic game. If they fail at that, then we can officially hang them and give power over to someone who can kill Sonic and make a game about Knuckles
 

Archaon6044

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don't let them continue th series, full stop.

remember what happened when they gave Shadow his 'own' game?
and he was mother fuckin' SHADOW! they made him shit.

imagine what they'd do to someone as godly as Knuckles! they might as well rip off his nadgers and force feed them to him, whilst breaking his fingers and pulling the nails off
 

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kadajvince said:
Sir_Montague said:
Archaon6044 said:
i wouldn't start? there don't need to be any more sonic games, he's been done to death. they're all just variations on the same thing now, except maybe with a new gimmick thown in to entice fanboys
I wouldn't start either. There are more than enough sonic games, and the last few didn't even turn out that well... Nintendo/ Sega needs to stop milking all of their franchises into oblivion... A completely original idea wouldn't hurt them every once in awhile... Then again, they did make the Wii...
We should give Sonic one more chance (ignore the black knight and anything else announced), and let Sega prove they aren't all thick and can make another good sonic game. If they fail at that, then we can officially hang them and give power over to someone who can kill Sonic and make a game about Knuckles
When I mentioned originality though I didn't mean simply revert to another area of the same franchise. I meant kill the game altogether. Let it rest in peace. Honestly, after all of these years, you'd think that some of their other numerous hits would come into play if they wanted to suckle the success of one of their older games. How about toejam and earl? One of my favorite genesis games that sega could bring back! Or vectorman? I've been wanting to get a copy of that (whether on pc or physically) for years and haven't been able to find a one...
 

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SHORT ANSWER - 2D

i mean street fighter 4 '2D', it should be a 2d side scrolling game but with awesome effects and such, it would attract new people and old fans to the game, i believe.
 

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1. Torture then execute anyone ever involved in designing or distributing a Sonic game and publicly display the bodies in every major city in the world.

2. Have all Sonic games confiscated and burned, then the ashes need to be shot into space.

3. Make it a capital offense to ever post, mention or think about Sonic games.

4. Perform public beatings on anyone found transgressing the above laws.

This can also be applied to anything involving Mario or Link.
 

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exoneuk said:
KEEP IT 2D.

It's obvious but that's the major flaw Sega seem to not understand. It can have 3D graphics but KEEP IT 2D.
Yeah, this is exactly the problem.

The sonic we fell in love with was a fast 2D platformer, and because of the element of speed, it has NEVER translated into 3D. Moving at that speed + heavy need for navigation just doesn't work together.
 

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Zenn3k said:
The sonic we fell in love with was a fast 2D platformer, and because of the element of speed, it has NEVER translated into 3D. Moving at that speed + heavy need for navigation just doesn't work together.
Last I checked fast + navigation didn't work in 2D either, the game switched between the two but never had both at the same time, usually you'd move at a fairly normal pace like mario until you come across a rollercoaster segment.
 

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3D sonic games can work. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were fun games. I have also heard the non-transformation levels of Sonic Unleashed were kinda fun. So here is what the focus needs to be: MOVING REALLY REALLY FAST. That's it. You don't need anything else for a good sonic game. Just design the entire game around moving really really fast. and destroying robots.


additionally if your going to make a sonic rpg use the stuff from the comic books. Plenty of characters to work with.
 

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Start from scratch. Don't do what you know; what they know is crap, and has gotten them into deep shit.

I like the idea of having seperate characters with seperate functions exploring a vast enviornment, kinda like Sonic Adventure.

I'd say remake the first Sonic with the same basis, but build it from the ground up. Make the characters different. I'd make Sonic just a little bit psychotic, myself.

Apologies Abound
 

BubbleGumSnareDrum

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Speed levels. No stupid transformations aside from Chaos Emerald usage, no stupid mechsuit for Tails, no hunting levels for Knuckles, FOR GOD'S SAKE no Team Chaotix.

NO WERESONIC. NO VEHICLES. I do not need a go cart or a hoverboard or a mechsuit if I can also play as a blue hedgehog who runs at the speed of sound.

Speed levels speed levels speed levels.
 

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I don't know about you but my favourite sonic game was sonic advance 2 battle, if they had that but removed the crap levels (god I hated those knuckles levels) and stopped having a sudden pause in the gameplay in the sonic levels (He would find a platform then spend ten seconds walking along and bouncing along enemy's.) it would be better. It would also help if they stopped letting sonic hang around women who are into bestiality (sonic the hedgehog on xbox 360) and don't get me started on the new sonic trilogy, (sonic and the secret rings, sonic and the black knight) I hated the railway idea, the camera sucked and he just ran the course for you, all you did was dodge boxes. Sonic and the black knight oh god, sonic with a sword.
caster272 said:
3D sonic games can work. Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 were fun games. I have also heard the non-transformation levels of Sonic Unleashed were kinda fun. So here is what the focus needs to be: MOVING REALLY REALLY FAST. That's it. You don't need anything else for a good sonic game. Just design the entire game around moving really really fast. and destroying robots.


additionally if your going to make a sonic rpg use the stuff from the comic books. Plenty of characters to work with.
which comic? English or American comic? I hated the American one, that cyborg bunny was a *****. (I only read the first comic that came with sonic mega collection.)