Hows season 19 of South park going For You guys so far?

[toonbro13]

I personally think its a really good season i like the theme of political correctness(Pc for short),I liked the character of Pc principle and we have gotten plenty of good and enjoyable episodes from this season

Heres the ratings id give the episodes so far
Stunning and Brave:B+
Where my Country Gone?:A
The City Part of Town:B+
Your Not Yelping:B-
Safe Space:A-
Tweek x Craig:A(fav episode so far)
Naughty Ninjas:B
Sponsored Content:A-

So thats my thoughts on this season but what do you think of it so far do you like this season or did you not enjoy it as much as i did ^^ please let me know your thoughts on this season

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

Really this seasons seems like it's being phoned in while desperately trying, and failing, to seem relevant.

Besides that, their constant use of the "ugly tranny" joke that is basically going "transphobia! Laugh Sheep!" which is the same weak ass, over played, unfunny, blatantly insulting joke that the likes of The Simpsons and anything with Seth McFarlane at the helm of does. Really that's hurt most of the season irreparably in my opinion.

Really Tweek x Craig is the only episode I can say I liked, the rest average crap in my book. Overall weakest season so far and it seems like Matt and Trey are just sick of it now.

 

[toonbro13]

Really this seasons seems like it's being phoned in while desperately trying, and failing, to seem relevant.

Besides that, their constant use of the "ugly tranny" joke that is basically going "transphobia! Laugh Sheep!" which is the same weak ass, over played, unfunny, blatantly insulting joke that the likes of The Simpsons and anything with Seth McFarlane at the helm of does. Really that's hurt most of the season irreparably in my opinion.

Really Tweek x Craig is the only episode I can say I liked, the rest average crap in my book. Overall weakest season so far and it seems like Matt and Trey are just sick of it now.

tweek x craig i gotta admit is my fav ep of the season and its also nice to see cupid me from cartman finds love back again ^^

ill admit its flawed in areas but i still enjoyed it for what it was (its not nearly as good as season 6 or 11 for me though those are my fav seasons of the show)

 

[EternallyBored]

It's been pretty good so far, the latest episodes have made the overarching plot more interesting, and taking the whole thing in a direction I wasn't expecting, the whole thing being about living ads and sponsored content behind the changes to South Park is a weird angle, but I want to see where they take it. The return of principal Victoria and what they've done with Barbrady are interesting, and the overarching plot definitely seems to be better than last season where the whole thing seemed to amount to, "see! we have continuity now! Isnt't that great! Let's reference stuff from previous episodes in the season with little point or purpose in a largely unfunny way".

Jimmy was awesome in the last episode, and the TweakXCraig episode was funny, Randy is starting to feel overused, and seems to be getting flanderized in later seasons, the adults were always kind of dumb, but Randy seems to reach annoying levels of being a dumbass this season.

The Jenner joke was funny the first time or two, and the initial episode at least tried to tackle the idea of separating criticism of the person from hatred of a demographic (transgender people) but unless they do something with it by the end of the season the scenes with her seem to just be wasted airtime. I mean holy shit they are pounding the "look! Kaitlyn Jenner killed a person in a car crash" thing into the ground, it's a salient point, but they just seem to be reusing the scene once every other episode. Also making her ugly and sounding like an idiot doesn't make any sense, it just seems to be making her look stupid for stupid's sake, like when they couldn't think of a clever way to satirize Matt Damon for Team America, so they just made him repeat his name like an idiot, I don't know much about Hollywood celebrities, but is there a joke I'm missing here or what?

PC principal started off as a 1 dimensional character, but both him and the PC frat are actually being used in a funny way, I doubt he'll be recurring as much outside this season, if he isn't killed off in the finale, but he's more interesting than the one note joke character he was in the first episode.

Also, this season has really been hard on both Kenny and Kyle, and I really hope they both get to hit back by the finale, Kenny for the gentrification of his house, and Kyle for taking away his speeches.

 

[Ihateregistering1]

I'm loving it. I thought the "SodaSopa" episode was sort of weak, but the "CtPtTown" advertisement may have been the funniest bit of television I've ever seen.

Beyond that, I've loved this season. Their criticisms have been on point, I thought it was hilarious how they made PC Principal into a "dudebro" instead of going down the expected route of having him be some sort of ultra-liberal hippy, and it's made me like and respect Jimmy a ton more. Some have said Randy is being overused, but he's basically just filling the role he has always played: the adult who wants to be "cool" so he latches onto whatever is the latest trend (in this case, patting himself on the back about how tolerant and progressive and PC he is).

Also making her ugly and sounding like an idiot doesn't make any sense, it just seems to be making her look stupid for stupid's sake, like when they couldn't think of a clever way to satirize Matt Damon for Team America, so they just made him repeat his name like an idiot, I don't know much about Hollywood celebrities, but is there a joke I'm missing here or what?

Primarily that Jenner was pretty damn ugly back when he was a man, and getting a boob job and shaving down his adam's apple didn't really improve things much in that department. Likewise, minus winning a Gold Medal about 40 years ago, Jenner is pretty much known only as having been a member of arguably one of the most vapid and worthless families in existence.

Basically, it's just the point Kyle was getting across: "I didn't like him when he was Bruce Jenner, and just because she's now Kaitlyn Jenner doesn't mean I'm going to start liking them".

 

[crimson5pheonix]

Hilarious! I especially liked The City Part of Town and Sponsored Content. But the whole season is doing great.

 

[toonbro13]

It's been pretty good so far, the latest episodes have made the overarching plot more interesting, and taking the whole thing in a direction I wasn't expecting, the whole thing being about living ads and sponsored content behind the changes to South Park is a weird angle, but I want to see where they take it. The return of principal Victoria and what they've done with Barbrady are interesting, and the overarching plot definitely seems to be better than last season where the whole thing seemed to amount to, "see! we have continuity now! Isnt't that great! Let's reference stuff from previous episodes in the season with little point or purpose in a largely unfunny way".

Jimmy was awesome in the last episode, and the TweakXCraig episode was funny, Randy is starting to feel overused, and seems to be getting flanderized in later seasons, the adults were always kind of dumb, but Randy seems to reach annoying levels of being a dumbass this season.

The Jenner joke was funny the first time or two, and the initial episode at least tried to tackle the idea of separating criticism of the person from hatred of a demographic (transgender people) but unless they do something with it by the end of the season the scenes with her seem to just be wasted airtime. I mean holy shit they are pounding the "look! Kaitlyn Jenner killed a person in a car crash" thing into the ground, it's a salient point, but they just seem to be reusing the scene once every other episode. Also making her ugly and sounding like an idiot doesn't make any sense, it just seems to be making her look stupid for stupid's sake, like when they couldn't think of a clever way to satirize Matt Damon for Team America, so they just made him repeat his name like an idiot, I don't know much about Hollywood celebrities, but is there a joke I'm missing here or what?

PC principal started off as a 1 dimensional character, but both him and the PC frat are actually being used in a funny way, I doubt he'll be recurring as much outside this season, if he isn't killed off in the finale, but he's more interesting than the one note joke character he was in the first episode.

Also, this season has really been hard on both Kenny and Kyle, and I really hope they both get to hit back by the finale, Kenny for the gentrification of his house, and Kyle for taking away his speeches.

nice little review ^^

yeah pc principle is a pretty funny char i feel he got better in where my country gone(aka one of mr garrisons funniest performence in along time atleast imo)

also BUCKLE UP BUCKAROO XD sorry coudnt resist

 

[Zontar]

I'm loving this season. with 8 of its 10 episodes done I think it's safe to make a call, and I have to say the rut the show was in a few seasons back is pretty much past. The show has overall been great and I absolutely loved Naughty Ninjas, had me rolling over with each instance of people seeing them and thinking, well you know.

I also love how people are still using the "they're just trying to stay relevant" shtick. South Park has always addressed topical things the way it has, it's not really something anyone should take as a surprise that they'd remain consistent with that even with the past two seasons having a bit of a format shift away from adventures of the week towards serialized storytelling.

The show still remains pretty decent, and with how few episodes the seasons now have it's really easy to binge watch. I know for a fact I'm probably going to watch them all back to back on the weekend after the finale (PVRd them all so far).

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

I also love how people are still using the "they're just trying to stay relevant" shtick. South Park has always addressed topical things the way it has, it's not really something anyone should take as a surprise that they'd remain consistent with that even with the past two seasons having a bit of a format shift away from adventures of the week towards serialized storytelling.

When I say they're trying to stay relevant, they're seeming somewhat more behind the curve this season on their topical humor. Really it seems they're hitting things they missed last season, which is reasonable with their release schedule of only 10 episodes per-season now. Still the show feels significantly more stale than in the past, which is really disappointing as a South Park fan my self. Really it now seems that the show is going over the hill. Unless they really shake things up in Season 20 and rejuvenate themselves, then I hope that they don't renew the contract at that point. If they can refresh South Park I'll be totally on board.

Then again the treatment of Caitlyn Jenner has been leaving a bad taste in my mouth, not because I like Caitlyn, because really about her... She's kind of exactly what the trans community doesn't need for a spokesperson at the moment. It's they way that they're using her to retread all of the crappiest most tired transphobic jokes. Maybe rewatching the season later I'll be able to put distance there, it's still about the laziest and least justifiable joke type they can do.

Still season 19 seems to be reaching a lot for the low hanging fruit of the lowest common denominator, which is the fertile stomping ground of things like The Simpsons, Family Guy, and other such lazy comedy shows. Where South Park once they got their freedom, seemed to raise the bar for themselves far above that, their humor used to be a lot more nuanced and biting as social commentary. Now they seem content with retreading jokes everyone's done, like every other show and their pet dog and that's disappointing, especially because this is South Park we're talking about. The show just seems tired now, like they're on the down hill to the end of the series after getting burnt out.

 

[VanQ]

Really this seasons seems like it's being phoned in while desperately trying, and failing, to seem relevant.

Besides that, their constant use of the "ugly tranny" joke that is basically going "transphobia! Laugh Sheep!" which is the same weak ass, over played, unfunny, blatantly insulting joke that the likes of The Simpsons and anything with Seth McFarlane at the helm of does. Really that's hurt most of the season irreparably in my opinion.

Really Tweek x Craig is the only episode I can say I liked, the rest average crap in my book. Overall weakest season so far and it seems like Matt and Trey are just sick of it now.

I'm pretty sure this season is actually making fun of the kind of person that sees a character like South Park's Kaitlyn Jenner and makes the assumption that that individual character is meant to be representative of a whole or a spokesperson for all people like them. Basically, if PC Principle saw this season of South Park, he'd have probably said exactly what you said in this post just now.

Edit: I should probably actually answer the OP's question.

It's one of my favourites. It's up there with the season that had the NASCAR episode. The overarching plot is both relevant and amusing. And the snipes at PC culture, especially the idea that it's mostly college aged, upper middle class white kids seems quite on point. Not to mention the hypocrisy of Randy and the other townspeople trying to be PC, where they'll bully, harass and try and destroy your livelihood because you don't live up to their standards on progressiveness one minute, then suck up to you later when it's convenient.

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

I'm pretty sure this season is actually making fun of the kind of person that sees a character like South Park's Kaitlyn Jenner and makes the assumption that that individual character is meant to be representative of a whole or a spokesperson for all people like them. Basically, if PC Principle saw this season of South Park, he'd have probably said exactly what you said in this post just now.

The "hits too close to home" argument only works when someone has a vested interested in someone like the real Caitlyn Jenner, when I feel the same as what Kyle said in the first episode of the season: "I didn't even say she wasn't a hero! I just said she isn't a hero to me! I didn't like Bruce Jenner as a person when he was on the Kardashians, and I don't suddenly like him[footnote]her[/footnote] now!" My whole issue is that it's a joke that's overused, unfunny, and directly insulting to a whole community and it's lazy as hell. I laughed with the running people over at first, then they reused it to death. Considering how bad a year it's been for trans folk this year, I'm just not in a position where I can let this one go with a shrug. It's a lot lower than the standards I've come to expect from South Park, and in my opinion it's a large contributing factor to why this season feels lazy and phoned in. If you like it that's fine, no need to justify your position by casting aspersions on others for thinking that it's crap.

 

[Buffoon1980]

Not liking it. That episode about 'safe spaces' is probably the last one I'll watch, for a while at least They've gone from attacking easy targets for amusing reasons to attacking *really* easy targets for fairly nonsensical reasons. It's weird how many ostensibly liberal people like Matt and Trey seem to think their biggest threat comes from other liberals who have almost the same agenda. Their latest episodes seem to be not only defending a person's right to be a total arsehole (and I'll defend that right as well, up to a point), they seem to be veritably encouraging arseholes while demonising people who think it might be a good thing if some people weren't such arseholes all the time.

 

[Erttheking]

Bleh. South Park's been getting a little stale for me because its humor overly relies on "LOOK! EVERYONE IS STUPID! LAUGH!" but the thing that made me respect it above family guy is that it always took shots at everyone equally and more importantly they didn't just make the same point over and over and over and OVER AGAIN! They made their point and their argument about Political Correctness in the season premiere. And then they decided to keep making it over and over again! I GOT THE MESSAGE! I get that it's popular to take potshots at SJWs (Still hate that term) but it's getting stale to anyone who doesn't loathe them.

 

[KyuubiNoKitsune-Hime]

Not liking it. That episode about 'safe spaces' is probably the last one I'll watch, for a while at least They've gone from attacking easy targets for amusing reasons to attacking *really* easy targets for fairly nonsensical reasons. It's weird how many ostensibly liberal people like Matt and Trey seem to think their biggest threat comes from other liberals who have almost the same agenda. Their latest episodes seem to be not only defending a person's right to be a total arsehole (and I'll defend that right as well, up to a point), they seem to be veritably encouraging arseholes while demonising people who think it might be a good thing if some people weren't such arseholes all the time.

I think you just summed up my feelings on this season better than I have in this thread. Thanks.

Anyways it's things like this that really make me hate this season, especially in light of how much I love South Park, I was hoping it'd end before it hit this point.

 

[Buffoon1980]

Not liking it. That episode about 'safe spaces' is probably the last one I'll watch, for a while at least They've gone from attacking easy targets for amusing reasons to attacking *really* easy targets for fairly nonsensical reasons. It's weird how many ostensibly liberal people like Matt and Trey seem to think their biggest threat comes from other liberals who have almost the same agenda. Their latest episodes seem to be not only defending a person's right to be a total arsehole (and I'll defend that right as well, up to a point), they seem to be veritably encouraging arseholes while demonising people who think it might be a good thing if some people weren't such arseholes all the time.

I think you just summed up my feelings on this season better than I have in this thread. Thanks.

Anyways it's things like this that really make me hate this season, especially in light of how much I love South Park, I was hoping it'd end before it hit this point.

Ha, well, cheers I genuinely appreciate it, as most of my comments these days seem to be met with baffling vitriol.

 

[toonbro13]

its nice to see just how many people on here have there own opinions ^^

what im gathering is this is a very love it or hate it season (and even ill admit i kinda miss it when south park had seperete storys instead of focusing on continuity)

and while i enjoyed this season(especilly eps like tweek x craig and safe space) i aint gonna judge any of you people for hating the season just aslong as u aint a total ass about it im perfectly fine with u hating the season as it is quite flawed in many regards


so yeah ^^ keep posting your opinions as i loved reading them so far

 

[Godzillarich(aka tf2godz)]

its nice to see just how many people on here have there own opinions ^^

what im gathering is this is a very love it or hate it season (and even ill admit i kinda miss it when south park had seperete storys instead of focusing on continuity)

and while i enjoyed this season(especilly eps like tweek x craig and safe space) i aint gonna judge any of you people for hating the season just aslong as u aint a total ass about it im perfectly fine with u hating the season as it is quite flawed in many regards


so yeah ^^ keep posting your opinions as i loved reading them so far

...what are you doing? This is the escapist you not supposed to be understanding about other people's opinions! You're supposed to strawman them and call them racists or social justice warriors! You're doing it all wrong!

OT:I haven't really watched the season or much of television lately but kind of interesting how divisive the show is becoming.

 

[toonbro13]

its nice to see just how many people on here have there own opinions ^^

what im gathering is this is a very love it or hate it season (and even ill admit i kinda miss it when south park had seperete storys instead of focusing on continuity)

and while i enjoyed this season(especilly eps like tweek x craig and safe space) i aint gonna judge any of you people for hating the season just aslong as u aint a total ass about it im perfectly fine with u hating the season as it is quite flawed in many regards


so yeah ^^ keep posting your opinions as i loved reading them so far

...what are you doing? This is the escapist you not supposed to be understanding about other people's opinions! You're supposed to strawman them and call them racists or social justice warriors! You're doing it all wrong!

OT:I haven't really watched the season or much of television lately but kind of interesting how divisive the show is becoming.

south park is alot like alot of adult swims programming your either gonna love it or your gonna hate it

and that what makes it so much fun to talk about because it is such a divisive program and leaves room for different opinions whether positive negative or just inbetween and this new continuity thing there doing is probebly one of the most devided things they have done

some say it ruins the charm of the show and they prefer the seperete storys while others think it adds to the show adding character development and a overarching plot that comes together at the end

 

[EternallyBored]

its nice to see just how many people on here have there own opinions ^^

what im gathering is this is a very love it or hate it season (and even ill admit i kinda miss it when south park had seperete storys instead of focusing on continuity)

and while i enjoyed this season(especilly eps like tweek x craig and safe space) i aint gonna judge any of you people for hating the season just aslong as u aint a total ass about it im perfectly fine with u hating the season as it is quite flawed in many regards


so yeah ^^ keep posting your opinions as i loved reading them so far

Strangely enough, the show writers kind of summed up their own weakness in the Family guy parody episodes. When they talk about shows that get up their own ass with messages, it's basically the writers admitting that they get a little preachy sometimes. It can lead to great topical humor, but their political satire quickly becomes severely dated after a period of time, especially if they are already behind on a trend, like the commentary on Youtube stars last season, not a terrible episode, but wow they were late to the party on that one.

South Park has long since lost the title of king of shock humor that it had in the 90's, the internet has surpassed South Park when it comes to gross out humor, or shocking content, so they've hinged on more topical humor. Random episodes about alien reality shows, zombie invasions, and Mecha Barbara Streisand gave way to episodes on reading terms and conditions, eating gluten, and Sporting controversies.

Do they get up their own ass with messages sometimes? Yeah, it can lead to funny content that has kept the series afloat for so long, but they are always walking a fine line between irreverent comedy and sniffing their own farts because they like the smell. But such is the danger of any show that tackles current political, entertainment, and social trends, and its why shit like Fox's attempt at a Daily Show like program failed so spectacularly, good political humor isn't easy. While they have stumbled in the past, and some of the episodes this season I can see coming off as a little annoying with their hamhandedness, they haven't quite reached San Francisco levels of smug yet.

Also, I swear to god, I will be so ticked off if the Jenner hit and run joke doesn't have at least some kind of satisfying payoff, the continuity last season was hit and miss on having the recurring jokes payoff, but if they show her doing the same gag every other episode it better have a funny payoff.