i thought it seemed wrong when i re-read it after i typed it.bluemistake2 said:wait wait wait wait wait wait wait... correct your words...rokkolpo said:why he would cheat on jozef with mary.
And that's why I am an atheist, although it is nice to hear somebody who identifies themselves as religious admit that they, or what they believe in, could ever possibly be wrong.Panda Mania said:Unfortunately, myself, devout Christians and other believers are tongue-tied with these arguments. I would say there are no easy answers, but I don't even know that for sure, so >.>beddo said:I would ask how he could try to make me accountable for any of my actions when the logical conclusion of an all knowing God that created everything is that he knew exactly what he was going to do when he made me thus he made all my decisions for me.CJ1145 said:What would you say when you met him?
Would you fall on your knees and beg for forgiveness? Would you try to ignore him? Would you sing a jaunty tune? I've always been curious as to what the skeptics would do if it turned out they were wrong. This topic appeases that curiosity of mine.
Ignoring the logical arguments I would ask why he intervened on things like Noah's Ark but couldn't lift a finger to stop world poverty, war and disease. Why was he so selective about who to help and when. Then I would ask how anyone who would idly stand by and at best just watch suffering has the right to judge any other person.
Ignoring those arguments I guess I would ask how I was supposed to know 'his' way the the 'right' way. With so much contradiction in the scriptures, hypocrisy in the church, not to mention the sheer number of believe systems which are largely developed through social conditioning how could anyone know that this religion was the 'true' one let alone the individual sect inside that belief system.
Ignoring that argument I would ask him how he can claim to be benevolent but willing to punish someone because they didn't believe in him.
Ignoring that argument I would argue how can I be told I have free will if choosing any other path than 'his' would lead to punishment.
Feel free to comment on any of these with what you think his responses would be. I do wonder what he'd think of you using leisure time on a computer on a Sunday the 'new' day of rest.
EDIT: I wouldn't really be worried about hell because if God is benevolent and all-powerful then he would just stop the devil from existing.
Then you are completely wrong. God is God. He is not human not even a solid form of being.Redingold said:You are aware that this thread is about the Christian god, right? The Christian God is most definitely a person and can be communicated with (or rather, he could be communicated with if he existed).AWAR said:God is not a person with whom you can communicate.
Normalgamer said:Pretty sure you couldn't kick an omni-powerful being out of his own domain.
"Omnipotence" doesn't exist, can't exist.RabidusUnus said:Kicking an all powerful being out of his own domain? Good luck with that.
No I mean noone can communicate with God by talking or even channeling his thoughts or something. Stop humanizing God! He is God not your everyday grocery store cashier..LOLCMONBRUH said:Well communication with God is a big part of monotheistic faith. Most believers think prayer is how they communicate with Him. Kind of like writing letters to an angry ex-lover who just sorta tears them up and burns them as opposed to a telephone line if you ask me. But unless you meant that humans as a whole are completely unable to communicate with the actual deity face to face you would sort of be correct. Moses did even though it aged him prematurely like 40 years or something. Apparantly God's radioactive. Or God is methamphetamine.AWAR said:God is not a person with whom you can communicate.
He doesn't demand. He lets everyone make their own choices.Woodsey said:I'd ask him why he demands people believe in him with f*ck all proof. Talk about arrogance.
so joseph (according to the bible) was commiting aldutery with god and god took the virginity of mary??rokkolpo said:i thought it seemed wrong when i re-read it after i typed it.bluemistake2 said:wait wait wait wait wait wait wait... correct your words...rokkolpo said:why he would cheat on jozef with mary.
meh,i think everyone understood it