I am feeling alienated and offended by Bioware

[whtkid6969]

odds at some point america will take over mexico and canada probably for resources and there is no way either of them could survive the attack so I would call it realistic.

But by doing so it would evoke a militarized response from the U.N. That would not be pretty.

Dude the UN does shit all and it is useless

i dont think that theres anything worth taking in mexico.

1) The U.S. is the U.N., without us thir is no army
2) We wouldn't need to attack either, if they would fight they would not only be slaughtred, but the land would become useless to us
3) Mexico has workers for the fruit farms we'd grow in canada

 

[Arehexes]

Yes and no, did you read the whole thing? If you did you would reaslise I am also targeting the entire Candain videogame industry for never representing my own nation.

What incentive would they have to do so? Why would they need to do so? Just because they're Canadian developers themselves? What's the point in that?

I am done here, I will just say it as clear as possible, the videogame industry in Canada is rarely shows any love to its nation with an over abundance of American main characters and such. I was not clear from the get go and people did not understand me. Do not look any farther into please because I want to see this forum end soon. Replying does not help that but I am aggressively adherent to the saying, do not start something you cannot finish.

Let me ask you this, how many games from japan feature characters who look Japanese? Lets look at pokemon how many look again instead of "white"? I don't know any, and what about Mario and Luigi they are Italian. Link isn't Asian either, I think the only game I can think of that was popular with a Asian main star was the Shenmue games. And now it's time for my proof on what I said, I will give links to popular games in japan with the main heroes/players(sadly i don't know the image tag if anyone could tell me after i post this i can fix this post).

Pokemon Black and White
http://gamerant.com/wp-content/uploads/Pokemon-Black-and-White-Trainers.jpg

Mario
http://blog.8bitlibrary.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/super-mario-bros1.jpg

The Legend of Zelda
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/images/users/uploads/16464/the-legend-of-zelda-twilight-princess-wii-version-20060509115842692_640w.jpg

Final Fantasy
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20051231013333/finalfantasy/images/a/af/Cloud_Strife_Nomura_art.jpg

Dragon Quest
http://www.dpadmagazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Dragon-Quest-IX.jpg
(I see one Asian-ish person in this one)

Is not the reason Japanese characters in manga and anime look caucasian because they view pale skin more attractive? Correct if I am wrong please.

P.S. The links are good but for some reason firefox crashes when I click them, tell me what they are about.

This is true they do view the Caucasian look to be attractive, but the reason I brought it up was because you mention how game makers from Canada don't give props to Canadian characters as stated here.

"the videogame industry in Canada is rarely shows any love to its nation with an over abundance of American main characters and such."

That was what you said (please god don't let me mis quote someone else or I'll smash this laptop lol), and my point was companies from japan rarely if never use Asian characters in their own games. Wouldn't the same thing about not caring for their own people in japan even if they see white skin beautiful compared to their own? They picked one choice over another for some odd reason (this was for looks). And the links where to heroes from popular games from japan (Mario, The heroes from Pokemon Black and White, Legend of Zelda, Dragon Quest 9, and Cloud from Final Fantasy 7).

Ah see where you were going with this, thanks for the speedy reply.

glad to help lol,

 

[Crimsane]

This thread amuses me, largely because someone (supposedly - haven't time to check credentials) working at Bioware commented and all of two people recognized it, neither of whom was the OP.

 

[clockout]

Canada vs. America! A heated battle of historical ignornace, and cherry picked statistics.

I like to think of America as the friend who is that lovable dickheaded friend. Sure America's gonna do or say something douchey, but you forgive America, because America makes you laugh.

Anywho, It's not like Bioware doesn't give a shout to Canada
example: The blood dragon armor you get is mass effect 2 is from the "Edmonton Blood dragons"
some sort of battle team, I can't totally recall it.

 

[whtkid6969]

This thread amuses me, largely because someone (supposedly - haven't time to check credentials) working at Bioware commented and all of two people recognized it, neither of whom was the OP.

to many pages, not worth looking

 

[Saulkar]

This thread amuses me, largely because someone (supposedly - haven't time to check credentials) working at Bioware commented and all of two people recognized it, neither of whom was the OP.

Crud, another comment I cannot understand. Could you please clarify?

 

[Saulkar]

Canada vs. America! A heated battle of historical ignornace, and cherry picked statistics.

I like to think of America as the friend who is that lovable dickheaded friend. Sure America's gonna do or say something douchey, but you forgive America, because America makes you laugh.

Anywho, It's not like Bioware doesn't give a shout to Canada
example: The blood dragon armor you get is mass effect 2 is from the "Edmonton Blood dragons"
some sort of battle team, I can't totally recall it.

It is not America vs Canada, it is the Canadian videogame development scene not featuring enough of Canada. I do not want to have Canada exclusively featured in our games, or appear in all games for that matter. I just wish we appeared more in games made by Canadians. I am going out on a limb here but I think the States featured Canada in more videogames (not including sports games) than we did ourselves. This whole issue was started by reading that Canada was annexed by the States in Mass Effect, something that I am really tired of appearing in media.

 

[Crimsane]

Could you please clarify?

I suppose?

Interesting. I worked on the game for two years years and didn't even know that. I suppose that shows how much it mattered to us development-side.

As in "not at all."

It shouldn't come as any surprise, really. Even we can joke about the comedically "inevitable" annexing of our own country. My question is: if we can laugh about it, why can't you?

By the way, we have plenty of cultural identity. We're just humble enough to not have to shove it down everyone else's throat. Please try not to mistake humility for a lack of identity. Not everyone needs to scream patriotism from their roof for a country to have a strong sense of self.

^Just curious how you missed this entire post from RollForInitiative, where he obliterates your claims, is all. I mean, he'd know best, being from the company you're criticizing. Thread pretty much ended here, or at least should have.

 

[clockout]

Snip.

It is not America vs Canada, it is the Canadian videogame development scene not featuring enough of Canada. I do not want to have Canada exclusively featured in our games, or appear in all games for that matter. I just wish we appeared more in games made by Canadians. I am going out on a limb here but I think the States featured Canada in more videogames (not including sports games) than we did ourselves. This whole issue was started by reading that Canada was annexed by the States in Mass Effect, something that I am really tired of appearing in media.

It seemed like it was heading into a Canada vs. America sit, but to as to why Canada keeps getting annexed by the states it's totally believable. It's xenophobic, but they will come eventually. personaly I'm betting they will come knocking on our door over a certian resource we have an abundance of. Also Americas manifest destiny plays a big part in it.

 

[GreyKnight3445]

you are aware that Bioware never said that Shepperd was from the US or Canada, and the only way he could be from earth is is you take the street urchin option and then he could be Asian or Nubian depending on how you set him/her up.

 

[clockout]

Canada vs. America! A heated battle of historical ignornace, and cherry picked statistics.

I like to think of America as the friend who is that lovable dickheaded friend. Sure America's gonna do or say something douchey, but you forgive America, because America makes you laugh.

Anywho, It's not like Bioware doesn't give a shout to Canada
example: The blood dragon armor you get is mass effect 2 is from the "Edmonton Blood dragons"
some sort of battle team, I can't totally recall it.

I thought Canadians and Americans were friends, did something happen to change this that I wasn't aware of?

oh we're BFFs, it's just America pulls some dick moves from time to time. I'm not saying Canada doesn't, however Americans tend to do it more.

 

[RhombusHatesYou]

Also, the funders of the game were EA... Entertainment America.

EA is Electronic Arts, Inc.

 

[mikespoff]

... almost all of their games take place in either a D&D verse, or an offworld colony, the closest is ONE option for shepard, but then it only says "came from earth".

What he said.

 

[Krion_Vark]

Hells bells, point missed moving on.

What exactly is your point then all I see is someone whining that in a piece of FICTION their country has joined with a country they seem to deem as a piece of shit. You have not really made any good points onto why it WOULDN'T happen while complaining and saying that someone has missed the point and shouldn't bother replying to the thread anymore.There is a great topic here but you are killing it by replying to people and then dismissing everything they are saying because it does not go up with your views on the situation that my friend is an immature brat throwing a tantrum finding out that Santa isn't real

Dude your a ass with your head deep in it, you feel like your country should be shown in the light on a game IN SPACE just because the company who made it is Canadian. Get over yourself, how many times is a country shown to be evil due to current events or past events. Do you think they want to have their country shown as "evil" in video games like Call of Duty with WW2(Nazi) or Modern Warfare(Taliban or what ever it is, I honestly don't care). Oh no I feel offended that a game in space has Canada is fused with United States and Canada isn't being shown with pride. Go fuck off dude, at least your country isn't being called "sue happy" or that we gladly remove freedoms when we want.

I am pretty sure you quoted the wrong person here.

Yeah I noticed it a while back sorry, my laptop is giving me mouse issues and i clicked the wrong name. That was ment for the Topic Maker not you, no hard feelings?

If I was pissed off by a simple miss click I don't think I would stay on the internet as much as I do.

 

[De-Moti]

This Offended [http://www.thefreedictionary.com/offended] you?
That's kinda stupid.

 

[DarkChoclate]

Okay, i think your argument is a little bit ignorant. There is no reason for Bioware or any other game developer to focus on a aspect you want. Especially when most of their games may have nothing to do with normal life situations or events. If you want to do so, go right ahead. They don't have to because its THEIR company. Who are you to think you have a special entitlement of what you want that they should fulfill. I'm not saying what you want isn't fair or unreasonable. But it doesn't matter, because they don't care. Your not their only customer.

IN fact, you have not right to be offended. Not having Canadian characters in their games, especially when it could have absolutely nothing to do with the story, does not hurt you, or wrong you in anyway. Who the hell said any company has to have any relation to its origin in their works. What if they're ashamed of being Canadian? I'm not saying they are or should be but you, YOU who has no significance at all in there grand scheme of things, can't tell them what to think. No one can. Even if is loses them customers to a great amount, they still can do what ever they want in a reasonable manner. It may not be beneficial but its their company, job, dream, and possibly life.