I am feeling alienated and offended by Bioware

[Saulkar]

I can understand that but I still feel that Bioware being a Canadian developer would realise that would be detrimental to a Canadian audience who have a fragile faith in own own videogame industry representing Canada in a positive light.

They aren't exactly painting Canada in a bad light, so I still fail to see where any great offence or alienation is occuring.

I did not say that they ever painted Canada in bad light. I was implying we are never represented by our videogame industry, if and when it happens, would it actually be in a positive light? Is where I was going with this.

 

[Saulkar]

Ya it is slightly annoying but as said before, humanity stands a better chance when united and perhaps the US actually had a change for the good.

Maybe, but in doing so it destroys an image and a culture. Something that took much longer, and hundreds of thousands of lives to build up.

 

[CrazyMedic]

odds at some point america will take over mexico and canada probably for resources and there is no way either of them could survive the attack so I would call it realistic.

 

[Saulkar]

*insert comment regarding sand in the vaginal area*

I don't get it. You feel alienated from a good company because they don't have the same overblown "patriotism" as you?

No I am aliented because it is ANOTHER videogame company in Canada that does not ever represent its nation. Something universal and seemingly unbreakable. I am not asking for the Canadian media industry to focus exclusively on Canada. Just to show that they care. Remember the part of my post about what a nation means to an individual and or group?

 

[Saulkar]

P.S. I did not forget money is a key factor, but that excuse can only hold for so long.

You could have just posted this. It's the reason. It will sell better with the American target audience and most Canadians aren't so immature as to care about the setting or the flag on the protagonist's coat.

And this is a perfect example of why you should just realize it's not a big deal. We Americans get mocked all the time, but you don't see me at least whining about it.

Read the post! Find out why it hurts first!

 

[Saulkar]

odds at some point america will take over mexico and canada probably for resources and there is no way either of them could survive the attack so I would call it realistic.

But by doing so it would evoke a militarized response from the U.N. That would not be pretty.

 

[archvile93]

P.S. I did not forget money is a key factor, but that excuse can only hold for so long.

You could have just posted this. It's the reason. It will sell better with the American target audience and most Canadians aren't so immature as to care about the setting or the flag on the protagonist's coat.

And this is a perfect example of why you should just realize it's not a big deal. We Americans get mocked all the time, but you don't see me at least whining about it.

Read the post! Find out why it hurts first!

I did, it's still not that big a deal.

 

[Saulkar]

"most bioware protagonists come from the states" .

No, most Canadian videogame developer's protagonists come from the States, THAT is what I said.

 

[Saulkar]

P.S. I did not forget money is a key factor, but that excuse can only hold for so long.

You could have just posted this. It's the reason. It will sell better with the American target audience and most Canadians aren't so immature as to care about the setting or the flag on the protagonist's coat.

And this is a perfect example of why you should just realize it's not a big deal. We Americans get mocked all the time, but you don't see me at least whining about it.

Read the post! Find out why it hurts first!

I did, it's still not that big a deal.

It is to a Nation with a weak sense of identity in the current generation.

 

[Mcupobob]

Canada makes fun of America all the time(maybe not as much through media) and America does the same. Is it because we hate each other? No, its simply because it just sort of a understanding. I would like to say that we both respect each other enough not to get overblown about simply good hearted jesting.

 

[Woodsey]

*insert comment regarding sand in the vaginal area*

I don't get it. You feel alienated from a good company because they don't have the same overblown "patriotism" as you?

No I am aliented because it is ANOTHER videogame company in Canada that does not ever represent its nation. Something universal and seemingly unbreakable. I am not asking for the Canadian media industry to focus exclusively on Canada. Just to show that they care. Remember the part of my post about what a nation means to an individual and or group?

I think I gave up by that point.

Again, why should they care? It's a piece of media that tells a story, and the fictional background is that Canada and Mexico joined the US (joined, not submitted and became enslaved by) - would this even be an issue if it read "the US and Mexico joined Canada"?

This is the perfect example of a non-issue.

 

[Saulkar]

Canada makes fun of America all the time(maybe not as much through media) and America does the same. Is it because we hate each other? No, its simply because it just sort of a understanding. I would like to say that we both respect each other enough not to get overblown about simply good hearted jesting.

Once again a comment that missed the point. The point is a universal lack of Candian content in Canada's own industry. I was stating why it is easier to ignore another nations gests at another than ones own gest at itself in the case of Canada.

 

[kouriichi]

There are hundreds of reasons why this could have happened.
Overpopulation is one of the most plausible. Amarica needs more space, purchases addition space from canada and mexico, borders eventually blur, becomes one super nation.

 

[Lolth17]

I'm going to be perfectly honest. I think this thread is a bit idiotic.

There have been many, MANY times in science fiction when this kind of thing has been supposed. Like Firefly? If you're not Chinese or American, you got blow'd the hell up. Like Planet of the Apes? In the original book, France was the supreme power in the world and the protagonists were all french. Like Starship Troopers? Hope you like the world as a Nazi-esque fascist paradise run by the Russians, English and Americans.

Please note that Bioware is not by any means the first person to put their country of origin in a tough spot, either. Remember Fallout? It's a little game where the Chinese and the Americans started hurling nukes at each other. America got blow'd up, and then there's like supermutants and fire-breathing ants running around, not exactly a nice place to live (unless you like slipping live grenades into people's pockets, then it's a virtual paradise).

So anywho, I'll spell it out. It. Is. Fiction. Don't take it so seriously, k? You'll give yourself ulcers.

 

[supermariner]

Patriotism is very much an American thing now
we all have it
but they have the monopoly on it ... like sexually transmitted diseases and a fear of sharing

if britain gave Northern ireland back to Ireland i don't think i'd mind that much
alternatively if we intergrated Holland into our nation i'd welcome it
i don't see why you're outraged at a FICTIONAL situation like this

oh and just in the interest of equality i also wouldn't mind if Britain got intergrated into Holland

 

[archvile93]

P.S. I did not forget money is a key factor, but that excuse can only hold for so long.

You could have just posted this. It's the reason. It will sell better with the American target audience and most Canadians aren't so immature as to care about the setting or the flag on the protagonist's coat.

And this is a perfect example of why you should just realize it's not a big deal. We Americans get mocked all the time, but you don't see me at least whining about it.

Read the post! Find out why it hurts first!

I did, it's still not that big a deal.

It is to a Nation with a weak sense of identity in the current generation.

Maybe you think that, but since I've never heard anyone but you complain about Canada's cultural identity, it's probably just you being overly patriotic like backwoods rednecks are here. By the way, one of my cousin's entire nuclear family is Canadian and I never hear this from them.

 

[Saulkar]

*insert comment regarding sand in the vaginal area*

I don't get it. You feel alienated from a good company because they don't have the same overblown "patriotism" as you?

No I am aliented because it is ANOTHER videogame company in Canada that does not ever represent its nation. Something universal and seemingly unbreakable. I am not asking for the Canadian media industry to focus exclusively on Canada. Just to show that they care. Remember the part of my post about what a nation means to an individual and or group?

I think I gave up by that point.

Again, why should they care? It's a piece of media that tells a story, and the fictional background is that Canada and Mexico joined the US (joined, not submitted and became enslaved by) - would this even be an issue if it read "the US and Mexico joined Canada"?

This is the perfect example of a non-issue.

It matters because it matters to other people (media consumers) and what matters to them can influence them and in turn affect their POV (no matter how small and undetectable). Thus it is an issue.

P.S. I cannot think of how the Canadian government would ever convince the population to agree to joining the States, I heard nothing about Canada being in a comprised position to be needing to join. I know our weak pride in our nation is enough to not want to dipose of our current rule and face their culture being superceded. Yes we have own separate from the States.

 

[MiracleOfSound]

I've never heard a Scottish person complaining that Niko Bellic was Serbian.

 

[Kenko]

America! Fuck yeah! Coming again to save the motherfuckin day yeah!

OT: Yeah, same thing goes for Sweden. National pride is non-existant. What Icons do we have? The King? He's a complete and utter retard. And then what? Well maybe metal counts for something but thats only music.

 

[Saulkar]

P.S. I did not forget money is a key factor, but that excuse can only hold for so long.

You could have just posted this. It's the reason. It will sell better with the American target audience and most Canadians aren't so immature as to care about the setting or the flag on the protagonist's coat.

And this is a perfect example of why you should just realize it's not a big deal. We Americans get mocked all the time, but you don't see me at least whining about it.

Read the post! Find out why it hurts first!

I did, it's still not that big a deal.

It is to a Nation with a weak sense of identity in the current generation.

Maybe you think that, but since I've never heard anyone but you complain about Canada's cultural identity, it's probably just you being overly patriotic like backwoods rednecks are here. By the way, one of my cousin's entire nuclear family is Canadian and I never hear this from them.

Not patriotic, concerned (Patriotic sounds too jingoistic from a personal point of view). This is an issue because a culture is an indentity of a group. When you fail to acknowledge it has the potential to show other cultures that you do not care for it. This is on the PERSONAL LEVEL. While it has no real political influence, it affects how the goverened body feels about itself deep down. Using one family instead of a studied group holds little merit. Not to be offensive.