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stompythebeast

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Unless you have a PhD on Global Economics, please, don't embarrass yourself and shut your trap. Don't come up with some idea you came up with while half-baked. People like you are the reason why i only tried the Ganja once.
 

Zombie_Fish

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Kukul said:
trombone2007 said:
Think of a jungle or tropical rain forest. When a large tree falls, the light that was confined to the treetops shines down to the forest floor, giving energy to the smaller plants and helping them grow. If that tree were, just for an example, AIG or GM, then smaller companies would fill the gap left by the original giant.

Seeing as how giving these huge companies money didn't really work, the only other option is to NOT give them money.

Thoughts?
This is criminally simplified, but basically you're right. Bailout is a fucking robbery on American taxpayer, I'm glad I'm not one.
Also if Americans don't buy cars, then apparently US don't need 1 million people hired in the Auto Workers Industry
Same in Britain as well. Bailing out the banks to save the economy has actually just put us in even more debt than before. The idea is correct but much more thought needs to go into it than that.
 

Cuniculus

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This wouldn't fix the economy... even if this weak analogy actually did work. You're only helping one aspect of the economy... the rest is still going to suffer.
 

Davey Woo

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You forget, in plants, the sunlight is being given constantly, for free.

In business the "sunlight" (money) is generated by the companies, so its not being given away the same.

Sorry but it wouldn't work
 

Evilvikingking

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trombone2007 said:
Think of a jungle or tropical rain forest. When a large tree falls, the light that was confined to the treetops shines down to the forest floor, giving energy to the smaller plants and helping them grow. If that tree were, just for an example, AIG or GM, then smaller companies would fill the gap left by the original giant.

Seeing as how giving these huge companies money didn't really work, the only other option is to NOT give them money.

Thoughts?
I think you're overestimating humanity's intelligence.
 

Nimbus

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You got the metaphors wrong, man. The reason the big trees are falling is because there is no light left up there.
 

DrDeath3191

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I think we need to leave the economy the fuck alone. Economies (and here comes another analogy, children) are very much like waves on the beach. They rise and fall, regardless of what we do. It often takes the sand (that is to say, our money), and sometimes it brings sand back. When the ocean recedes, we can't coax it back by moving our sand around. Leave the issue be; it will come back when it does.
 

eruwenfuin

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This sounds suspiciously like the Creative Destruction theory I read about a while back. Basically it says that you have to let the "rotted" giants fall down. Then when all these rotted giants have fallen down you start anew with efficient and well managed companies that are well looked after, and are ecologically sound as well.

While this is of course possible, the sad thing is that for several years there will be mass unemployment. As has been said, these young "sprouts" are not in need of the same amount of employees as these giants were, and it will take many years before they're at that level. And because the USA system, nor any other governmental system, can not manage that much unemployment, nor would it be fair to the citizens of the USA or any other country, this "theory" of how to deal with things has been rather rudely swept aside.

So while you are at the core of things completely correct, when one falls new ones come up, this cannot be allowed due to outside factors, such as people actually being dependent on these rotted giant trees of doom.
 

Zac_Dai

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This is why America is just as socialist as Europe.

Not arguing whether its a good or bad thing but I just don't take people seriously when they the USA is a free-market economy.
 

TopaZzz

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I can fix the economy and stop global warming at the same time! DESTROY AMERICA!
 

whaleswiththumbs

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Leorex said:
only supper man can fix the economy now, he would do that thing where he reverses time by flying around the earth backwords.
Supper Man? Alittle hungry?

Well, seeing as Obama is pushing the goverment into a communist state. This is one of the best option around. I see the same way when it comes to Gitmo, just kill the bastards, CAUSE NOBODY WANTS THEM, thats why they have to bride eople to get them.
 

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Look, I know people are going to shout and throw things at me, but the reason car companies are in so much trouble is because they are trying to sell a product that is increasingly unviable. We ARE running out of oil (for those of you that whine about the price going up, thats why you effin dolts), more and more people every year start driving, which means our already congested roads will get worse, and those new drivers are all skint what with the economy being fucked and all that, and aren't going to buy new cars. Car companies have completely ignored the green issue, particularly in America (global warming is a side issue, please don't quote me on it and start that conversation, I've been there before- all that CO2 will make no impact on a closed environment and I'm an hysterical loony loser who wants to ruin your good time by suggesting otherwise-fine, fine), and their industry is in a shambles because of it.
The problem is that the industrial, free market capitalist age is in its final days, whatever your opinions on it (there just isnt any virgin territory to exploit or new areas of industry to move into, and when you cant move without stepping on someone elses toes, unregulated methods of development become unviable), and no one really has any suggestions about what the next model of society should look like.

When theres no more cookies in the jar, you cant eat cookies, and screaming, stamping your feet and spitting venom at anyone who points out the bare facts won't really change anything.

Cue twat quoting me and mouthing the same eloquent reasonable sounding crap they've been responding to people like me with for the last twenty years or so despite it all crumbling round our ears. Whoever you are, just refrain from putting the word 'sir' at the end of each bullshit statement in an effort to look mature and well informed - it leaves me with an urge to rip your throat out that I cant possible satisfy...
 

MiserableOldGit

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TopaZzz said:
I can fix the economy and stop global warming at the same time! DESTROY AMERICA!
...thats ridiculous ill informed and stupid...

...what would we do with all the derelict Starbucks and piles of useless plastic shopping channel bullshit? Answer these questions and the nuke launch codes are yours....
 

TopaZzz

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MiserableOldGit said:
...thats ridiculous ill informed and stupid...

...what would we do with all the derelict Starbucks and piles of useless plastic shopping channel bullshit? Answer these questions and the nuke launch codes are yours....
nothing, we would use America as a dumping ground. In that way we would get rid of all the garbage too!
 

MiserableOldGit

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TopaZzz said:
MiserableOldGit said:
...thats ridiculous ill informed and stupid...

...what would we do with all the derelict Starbucks and piles of useless plastic shopping channel bullshit? Answer these questions and the nuke launch codes are yours....
nothing, we would use America as a dumping ground. In that way we would get rid of all the garbage too!
Fair enuff- the code is AHHFUCKIT999
 

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Leorex said:
only supper man can fix the economy now, he would do that thing where he reverses time by flying around the earth backwords.
i think we can better use super economic man he will help every body or is brother super economic problem fixerman
 

massau

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TopaZzz said:
MiserableOldGit said:
...thats ridiculous ill informed and stupid...

...what would we do with all the derelict Starbucks and piles of useless plastic shopping channel bullshit? Answer these questions and the nuke launch codes are yours....
nothing, we would use America as a dumping ground. In that way we would get rid of all the garbage too!
i think china is better than we all have some more oxigen yey and we would be so over populateded than