hobo_welf said:
Clashero said:
hobo_welf said:
Better yet, who cares? The Beatles tried to rip off Chuck Berry and Elvis and failed miserably, creating a band with next to no actual musical talent that started the most irritating, useless, retarded revolution since the Spanish Inquisition.
Have you even looked at the chord charts for Something? That piece is musical genius. Look at the chord progressions, the sudden changes in key, and how the solo guitar plays along to a) the chords in the key, b) the chords outside of the key, c) the completely dissonant chords, like Ammaj7.
Got any more wonderful songs? The Beatles were good singers and that's about it. Spend your whole life playing music and eventually you can write a good song or chord progression. My hate for the Beatles is a combination of two things.
The first is that they are literally the most over-rated band of all time. Actually I'm pretty sure that next to god, they're the most over-rated noun of all time. And that's saying quite a bit.
The second is that compared to some bands today they're completely bland, let alone the bands that were playing at the same time as them.
I do not dispute their contribution to the musical world, I dispute their godlike status and the claim that they are the best band ever, because while they were pretty phenomenal singers, their musical talent was atrocious. I've never heard a soul searing solo come out of a guitar, a bitchin' bassline from them, and we won't even being to talk about good ol' Ringo Starr.
Edit: I will say that you make a damn good argument. Guitar solos matching up to dissonant chords are pretty haunting.
I see your point, and I'll agree on some parts of it:
The Who, in their early years, sounded a lot like The Beatles, except... better.
Their musical talent didn't show in their songs in the way, say, Clapton's talent did. Their talent became apparent in their (or at least McCartney's and Lennon's) level of musical knowledge, which they put to use in almost all their songs.
And "over-rated", that is something I can't argue with. I like them a lot (it's not quite on "love" level), but they are seen as the greatest band that ever existed, while there were far better musicians before, during and after the Beatles era. They were, however, one of the first bands to make a pop, highly marketable and mainstream sound that was also pleasant to the ear of the trained musician.
And yeah, Ringo was pretty awful.