I disagree with Yahtzee in a lot of areas.

[SaineRaine]

I find that the things that he chastizes games about are the things that I tend to hate and the things that he likes more often than not I agree. Though, my taste in games differs a bit- but I enjoy his reveiws nontheless. I don't like fps and I won't play anything that is like GTA. Those games are just boreing. (Though, I do like to drive cars around and cause havic.)

There are times that he is just wrong, though. When he reveiwed BRAID there was a set of doors that you couldn't get through if you went backward at all- the key will break if you do. He said that the key will break if you choose the wrong door. It really dousn't matter what door you choose.

He also reveiws games in a series without playing any of the previous games so he nags on the storyline. But, to me, if a game in a series can't have someway to fill in a player on what has happened so far really quickly there is something wrong with that. Even books that are in a series usually have a chapter that sets up the characters and plot again.

One of my most favorite games is God of War, which he rags on all the time for it's quick time events. At first I was kind of abashed that he didn't like the game but after thinking about it I kind of understand. Most every game after God of War's release has a quick time event in it. They work in GoW- it's part of that, but in other games it can just be really annoying!

Anyways. I can talk all day...

 

[BasicMojo]

For God's sake, he's just a reviewer. He's not planking you down in front of the computer screen and forcing you to watch his quaint little videos; if you don't like them, don't watch them. Otherwise, as demonstrated, you become a troll.

There are plenty of his reviews that I've watched and laughed at, whether I agree or disagree with the subject at hand. I view them as his perspective on a game, not an edict to make financial decisions around. It's fine to disagree, just don't go around calling people stupid. That's ignorant.

The problem most people have with Yahtzee's reviews is that they are bleakly cynical to the point of being depressed and suicidal. However, they are rip-roaringly hilarious, and I and my friends have been known to steal his similes and metaphors on more than one occasion.

 

[KrabbiPatty]

I love your definition of troll as "someone who complains about something" dude.

It's also another way to avoid thinking as much as humanly possible, which appears to be a trend since the upswing in South Park's popularity.

No let me explain ignorance. Ignorance is when someone claims a certain feature is in a game--for example, saying that touching the controler wrong in Turok causes you to spin around 180 degrees--when no such feature exists. It means the person either didn't play it, doesn't know how, or is lying. My problem with it isn't that he's quote "depressing" unquoute (and i guess Yahtzee is what some consider "depressing" to sound like, much like they consider the Jonas Brothers to be singers) but with the fact he's either stupid, lying or doing it wrong.

I mean i could go on for hours, pointing out miniscule things he either gets wrong about games or makes up completely, but at this point it's obvious the oposition's only argument is either to say that the truth is wrong if it is at odds with their opinion, or that all opinions at odds with their opinion are wrong...which is a hilarious kind of circular logic and i'm sure some kind of logical fallacy, though i'll have to look it up later to make sure.

 

[thiosk]

Honestly if someone finds Gta4 to be ... fun than ... then they are a mindless drone

Edited for truthiness
horay

 

[PirateKing]

I disagree with him on quite a few things, but other times I've agreed with him readily. Like everything he said about Left 4 Dead.
That velociraptor thing was a joke you know. I'm sure it would appeal if it was a fun game. His opinions don't appeal to you? Well how about his reviews? I mean, I get tired of bashing GTA and Halo but it's not like it harms me.

 

[Sewblon]

I happen to like most of the games that he says that he likes but I don't hate everything that he says that he hates, I just had my fill of games about big men doing manly things when I was 15, but I do like JRPGs. like everyone above me said you can't say that his opinions are stupid because the differ from yours. He strikes me as a person with decided lack of interest in anything that he is certain he has already experienced.

 

[Arker]

Yahtzee doesn't hate big-name games who take few risks, he hates ones who do it poorly. I somewhat agree that wacky sandbox antics can severly improve the entertainment value of a game.

 

[Knonsense]

It really isn't saying a lot that you disagree with a lot of what a person who expresses opinions as a job says.

Really, he's offering his opinion on a game for entertainment value. Simply because a lot of people like to nod and feel "intelligent" because they agree with a person they perceive* as intelligent, doesn't mean that there's anything notable about disagreeing with such an authority.

*I don't mean to imply that Yahtzee is unintelligent by using the word "perceive".

 

[Same River New Water]

I get what all you people are saying, but I'm not going to apologize for my opinion. My opinion is that a French chef shooting veloceraptors out of a gun (for example) is stupid. I disagree with his tastes because I find them stupid.

So you are calling his opinions stupid. Are you going to remove the edit on your original post? Because that says you're not calling his opinions stupid.

No, I'm saying some of the things he like I find stupid, I'm not calling him stupid.

I didn't say you were.

 

[willgreg123]

...uh...you are aware that whole chef raptor gun bit was to execute a point of how most games have become bland repetitive and uncreative these days, right? Further more, it was a very obvious joke! Why would you even take Yahtzee's every word so seriously? He's just being honest and funny, mostly a smart ass, as he's admitted to being many times over, but it never seems to stick with you people. Taking any critic so seriously distracts from the spectacle of taking in another's unique perspective.

Now, I actually love his tastes in games, to a point, so maybe I'm the wrong kind of person to even participate in this argument. But I do like a couple of games he's crucified, but that doesn't mean what he said wasn't true. For example, Oblivion, I loved that game and by even though his review wasn't kind to the game, I found the review absolutely hilarious, and I was still compelled to play the fucking game. Funny thing is, when Fallout 3 came out, it was like an Oblivion upgrade and I could see even clearer what Yahtzee was talking about, and I enjoyed Fallout 3 far more then Oblivion, and eventually uninsulated Oblivion for more room to play Fallout 3.

My point is take what Yahtzee for what he is, a smart mouth know it all literate fag who isn't afraid to make fun of himself or get his hands down and dirty to judge a game by a unique standard and who will not adjust his review for whoever is giving out his paycheck, like the mainstream platform magazine's game critics.

But Yahtzee is in no need of defending, that's for damn sure. In fact, I think if his Internet fame was somehow vaporized overnight, Yahtzee's the kind of guy who wouldn't be upset, nay, I imagine he'd be generally pleased at the fact he'd finally get some peace and quiet. But that would quickly be watered down by the fact he would have a wallet as empty as his hypothetically vaporized career, obviously. So please don't take me too seriously either, as I'm just another stupid fanboy who needs to flex his fan muscles to everyone.

So to sum up my thoughts on this topic, yeah that's a stupid weird idea for a chef to shoot dinosaurs from a gun, but that was the point he was trying to make and again, it was a JOKE. In fact almost everything Yahtzee says is sarcastic in some way or another. He's more a comedian when you think about it, but he did make a very valid point as many games in the era he was referencing did have equally if not even more dumb ideas for games. Many of them too obscure to even take out of context. But they where far more interesting then the gun metal grey games you get all over the place these days. If you can't understand that, then you're pretty stubborn, especially since this isn't something that should even be argued, no more then it should be argued an orange is a better fruit then an apple. Sure they're different but that doesn't mean everyone has to eat the kind of fruit you like.

 

[willgreg123]

REPLY TO SaineRaine:
See? This guy knows what I'm talking about.

 

[SongsOfDragons]

That's part of what makes you a sensible, autonomous human being. You take the points made by public critics, perhaps not just Yahtzee, and you give them some serious thought before you use them to form your own opinions based on whether or not you agree with each point. My peers may be correct, you may have phrased this wrongly, but your right it still there. The right for an adult to keep his own opinions could be said to be how an ideal government is able to function. Yes, disagree with Yahtzee as much as your personal views say you must; others could well have the full opposite view compared to yours, and that's how interesting discussion begins.

We talked a lot about this in my post-modernist seminars. No idea how it tags into the PM theory, but damn they were fun debates.

 

[wgreer25]

I enjoy his reviews, I usually agree with the nit-pics he has about games. I definately like the fact that he doesn't put numbers to his ratings. The numbers are too subjective and a 8 game in one genre does not equal an 8 game in another genre. State what the game does right and what it does wrong, the end.

There has only been one review in which I thought he was dead wrong, and that was Dead Space. But like you all have said, it is still a matter of opinion.

 

[nebenator]

I disagree with a lot of his opinions on games, but not his opinions on comedy. Zero Punctuation is the reason I wake up on Wednesdays!

 

[Magnikai]

Yay for a competely worthless topic! Whats next, UR is stupid because of the way it portays DnDers? Seriously....100+ posts on a topic started by some whiny guy who doesn't like what some well-paid whiny guy likes?

Yahtzee is a CRITIC. Of course you won't agree with everything thing he says. Unless you live in a dictator run country wherein you're used to people thinking for you

 

[Tarmon'gaidin]

YOU DIMWIT!!!!!!!!

I registered on the Escapist just to tell you that your assumptions are ridiculous. HE IS A CRITIC, ofcourse he drags every game in to the ring and then makes a perfect knockout.

And as far as his taste is concerned HE IS JOKING FOR @#%$!& SAKE, he makes up those idiotic ideas too show us that games these days are getting boring and uninspired.

Man I'm glad I got that of my chest.

 

[DrHobo]

The only thing lamer then bored house wives who read new idea and womens weekly is submissive gamers who worship a non celebrity attention whore who talks too fast


Seriously, if your going to be a fanboy for someone, make it someone who has at least earned the right to being a celebrity



http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=X2EDtxEumFI

 

[carnbear]

I think the example about the Chef firing Raptors was more a comment about how the game genre (ie: Commodore 64 Age) was very unrealistic and how games could be based around such odd combination's with no complaint. (Example; Dizzy or Bubble Bobble).

I don't think that it was a display of his tastes, more a description of how the qualifications of game content have changed since the days of Fantasy Island Dizzy and Pac-Man.

Glad to know he was alive for those times and can actually remember them.

 

[chuckman1]

Sometimes I disagree with him but like him I care much more about gameplay than graphics.