I don't play on a PC so suck it!
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Ignoring the inflammatory thread title and the inevitable flamewar that probably brewed up in the middle pages:
You can get porn on it. And IRC/fora.
There you go.
Also you can buy these ones that you can carry around with you and don't necessarily need to be plugged into the wall, or a TV, or need fiddly seperate controllers. Plus the hard disks are of a non-laughable size.
Oh yeah and if you spend a truly ludicrous amount you can play console-level games on them.
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EDIT: Sephael, did you steal that or buy it cheap from the black market or something? If I'd spent that kind of money on an HP laptop 5 years ago it would have struggled with medium settings on contemporary titles even out of the box. These days? No chance. Maybe you're just playing old games?
For the record I spent $1000+ on one of their convertible tablets (which probably has about $600 of non-tablet/shrinky-dink computing power in it) at about the same time as you, got a damn good deal on it to boot, and the best I can really expect is maybe 20fps at fairly low settings in Live For Speed or a similar level title. Show it something like Crysis and it would probably commit suicide. I've tried a couple newer ones in between and they fall down to single figure fps on lowest settings at some points. The physics engines are what murder it, more than the actual graphic complexity. Mobile CPUs (& integrated GPUs... you saying you got one with a seperate chipset at that price?) of that vintage just aren't up to it. However in everyday computing use it's perfectly fine still, it's no slouch, unlike some cheaper ones owned by my cousins which have come and gone twice in the same time period (Celerons and Semprons and other slices of faecal matter masquerading as CPUs oh my).
You can get porn on it. And IRC/fora.
There you go.
Also you can buy these ones that you can carry around with you and don't necessarily need to be plugged into the wall, or a TV, or need fiddly seperate controllers. Plus the hard disks are of a non-laughable size.
Oh yeah and if you spend a truly ludicrous amount you can play console-level games on them.
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EDIT: Sephael, did you steal that or buy it cheap from the black market or something? If I'd spent that kind of money on an HP laptop 5 years ago it would have struggled with medium settings on contemporary titles even out of the box. These days? No chance. Maybe you're just playing old games?
For the record I spent $1000+ on one of their convertible tablets (which probably has about $600 of non-tablet/shrinky-dink computing power in it) at about the same time as you, got a damn good deal on it to boot, and the best I can really expect is maybe 20fps at fairly low settings in Live For Speed or a similar level title. Show it something like Crysis and it would probably commit suicide. I've tried a couple newer ones in between and they fall down to single figure fps on lowest settings at some points. The physics engines are what murder it, more than the actual graphic complexity. Mobile CPUs (& integrated GPUs... you saying you got one with a seperate chipset at that price?) of that vintage just aren't up to it. However in everyday computing use it's perfectly fine still, it's no slouch, unlike some cheaper ones owned by my cousins which have come and gone twice in the same time period (Celerons and Semprons and other slices of faecal matter masquerading as CPUs oh my).
I'm not sure about the versatility thing when most of the high profile PC titles I see coming out are deathmatchy type shooters, MMOs and strategy games... the odd racing title... an occasional wildcard like Spore (which has no barriers to being implemented on a console since about 10, maybe 15 years now)... and a variety of browser games and emulators which can largely now be downloaded from XBLA / PSN or picked up via some kind of homebrew method.
Unless you're deep into something pretty niche like Rigs of Rods or a hardcore train/truck/bus/flight sim. In which case, PC it up.
What have I missed?
(BG: I was all for PC gaming, and was quite enthusiastic about it within a limited budget back when you could actually get a significant improvement in the overall game quality (graphics, sound, expansiveness, play & control mechanics) without spending an utter fortune on parts and electricity, vs the console competition. Those days have passed, as far as I can tell.)
Unless you're deep into something pretty niche like Rigs of Rods or a hardcore train/truck/bus/flight sim. In which case, PC it up.
What have I missed?
(BG: I was all for PC gaming, and was quite enthusiastic about it within a limited budget back when you could actually get a significant improvement in the overall game quality (graphics, sound, expansiveness, play & control mechanics) without spending an utter fortune on parts and electricity, vs the console competition. Those days have passed, as far as I can tell.)
A high powered PC makes for decent quality experience and I think the keyboard/mouse usage really helps immerse the gamer.
Consoles are good but they're too much of a money grabbing gimmick at the moment, PS3 was alright, apart from when it had no games... then brought out the MOVE.
Consoles are good but they're too much of a money grabbing gimmick at the moment, PS3 was alright, apart from when it had no games... then brought out the MOVE.
I can write academic papers on my PC.
I can browse the internet on my PC.
I can... well, write my own games on my PC.
That's why I have an XBOX, a Wii and a PC.
I can browse the internet on my PC.
I can... well, write my own games on my PC.
That's why I have an XBOX, a Wii and a PC.
That a 3D-vision gaming rig would cost over AU$1k if you wanted to run games with full bells and whistles? Certainly... especially as so few game engines can handle 3D vision natively and rely on extra layers of software to do the heavy lifting.RadiusXd said:
That 3D-vision is a necessary (or even desiranle) component of gaming, thus a necessary inclusion to a gaming rig? No, and I never will... at least where current 3D tech is concerned because stereoscopic forced perspective 3D doesn't work good for me AND gives me a splitting headache.
Not true, thanks to consoles arm flailing technology has never been more advanced!Ultratwinkie said:
It's unique, Console FPS Controls are just cluster-fucked messes compared to PC/MAC, and have you tried playing an RTS/Simulation on a Console?!
I got the Sims 3 on my Ps3, the controls were brutal!
Meh. Just my opinion.
I got the Sims 3 on my Ps3, the controls were brutal!
Meh. Just my opinion.
I think whether you use PC or console depends on yout type of gaming. FPS shooters are definitely easier with a mouse and keyboard arrangement. For many action games (Dead rising, Ninja Gaiden) a controller works better (for me at least). What I like about Wii controllers is that they're a mix of both (lots of potential with the setup for some great mature games, RE4 works very well on the Wii.)
One: You can use your PC for anything else you want.
Two: You can make your own games on it and release it onto the consoletards if you'd like.
Three: You get to say, "consoletard"
Four: Steam
Five: Cheaper Games
Six: Epeen extending
Us smart PC'ers actually figured out a $600 rig that can manage all the games today... so.. yeah... Make you look like a fool.
Two: You can make your own games on it and release it onto the consoletards if you'd like.
Three: You get to say, "consoletard"
Four: Steam
Five: Cheaper Games
Six: Epeen extending
Us smart PC'ers actually figured out a $600 rig that can manage all the games today... so.. yeah... Make you look like a fool.
Personally I find PC gaming better than consoles in every way except: Cost, support from the games industry (frequently the PC gets poor ports or ignored for console exclusives) and most people I know are console gamers first and foremost.
Ignoring the cost factor:
Cheaper games
Mods
Faster speed online
Dedicated servers
Customisable controls
Steam
More precision (especially FPS and RTS)
You can multi-task a lot more eaily (do non-gaming things a the same time)
Games on the PC get updates more often as they are easier to implement
Valve games get free updates and DLC
Sadly I don't have the spare money right now to go out and get myself a decent gaming PC, so I am stuck with the Xbox 360 and only use my PC for older/lower spec games until I can afford to spend my money on one.
If I hadn't bought myself a new car I'd have myself a brand new shiny PC.
Ignoring the cost factor:
Cheaper games
Mods
Faster speed online
Dedicated servers
Customisable controls
Steam
More precision (especially FPS and RTS)
You can multi-task a lot more eaily (do non-gaming things a the same time)
Games on the PC get updates more often as they are easier to implement
Valve games get free updates and DLC
Sadly I don't have the spare money right now to go out and get myself a decent gaming PC, so I am stuck with the Xbox 360 and only use my PC for older/lower spec games until I can afford to spend my money on one.
If I hadn't bought myself a new car I'd have myself a brand new shiny PC.
Yes, and that kind of attitude is why most people dislike PC "elitists", a nice person would explain how they managed it rather than acting all smug and superior about it.Plurralbles said:
With a halfway decent computer, games look better, run better, have mods, and there's more games, mouse+keyboard, it's infinitely more flexible, etc.
My other computer cost me about $600 back when I built it around 5 years ago.
It STILL runs each and every single game to date at high-ish settings.
Even Crysis 2.
$600?Plurralbles said:
My other computer cost me about $600 back when I built it around 5 years ago.
It STILL runs each and every single game to date at high-ish settings.
Even Crysis 2.
My problem is that all the CS playing idiots i hated back in the day have move to consoles along with FPS's... not that there aren't enough morons left on PC too (stop buying the same game every year dammit).
And of course there's the fact that formerly PC centric genres went to consoles and had to be simplified because of control and nowadays hardware limitations (PC games where well on the way out of the "small room/corridor" ghetto). No one complains about classic console genre games like Batman AA being too simple because they germinated on consoles so they know how to make them as complex as the genre allows even with the limits consoles have.
And of course there's the fact that formerly PC centric genres went to consoles and had to be simplified because of control and nowadays hardware limitations (PC games where well on the way out of the "small room/corridor" ghetto). No one complains about classic console genre games like Batman AA being too simple because they germinated on consoles so they know how to make them as complex as the genre allows even with the limits consoles have.
Also, it was never a thing, the earliest i have ever needed to upgrade a PC was 3 years, and that's because the first one didn't have a graphics card at all (my 1st PC sometime in the late 90's) or because games started needing shader 2.0 to work at all and my old card only had 1.2...Serenegoose said:
I like PC because of controls, complex games like Total War series etc. and because on PC I can play games that came out 20 years ago. I don't have to plug in some old console to an old TV. I have everything in one package. And I can also use a console controller if I want. So yes, PC's are better than consoles. They can do everything consoles can and even more. Anyone who doesn't realize that is in denial.
And people need to stop with this "PC is dying" bullshit. How many consoles did this world go through, yet the PC still remains? After this generation of consoles die, PC will be there. PC is always there and with backwards comparability
And people need to stop with this "PC is dying" bullshit. How many consoles did this world go through, yet the PC still remains? After this generation of consoles die, PC will be there. PC is always there and with backwards comparability
It's called Newegg, and knowing what you're doing.Legion said:
But no one asked about a good PC spec at affordable prices, they just starting repeating that PC's costs 2000$+ etc... which makes it obvious that they have no clue what they're talking about...
Do things like this still matter? Is shit like this still important? Fuck this, play whatever you want. I don't give a crap and neither should you.Cole Sauer said:
Well consoles do have one advantage, any game made for the current gen will work on them until the next gen... while on PC sometimes the devs screw over people with good PC's by making their games not work on 2-3 year old video cards because a new shader model they don't have is a min requirement.ImprovizoR said:
That and the fact that consoles are sold at a loss for a couple of years, so they're cheaper over-all for the consumer.