I Dont't Know: Bah Bah Black Sheep.....Yep im a Racist.....Somehow?

[Azrael the Cat]

Great work jackass, I was gunna convince him its something we do in british schools which involves running at each other with javalins. Its character building.

Sorry, I just got so excited about teaching someone about something so purely British

Not as good as the Australian Dropbears, but still:

oh bloody hell, are they real?

I read about them in a Pratchett book and assumed they were made up. Are they?

They?re not real. That?s just a heavily altered picture of a Koala

Shhh....don't ruin it. I've got good friends in the military who have fun every year when they do training exercises with/against the US military up in the Northern Territory. Because the tradition of Australians telling Americans about 'dropbears' is so well-spread, and even New Zealenders know to help out by telling any American they meet to 'watch out for the dropbears if you ever go to Australia', it's ultra easy to convince the American soldiers that dropbears are real, ultra aggressive, and found throughout the northern parts of the continent.

The tradition in the Australian military to tell the Americans that they're real, but don't worry about them because it's really really easy to avoid attacks. You just have to smear some vegemite on your shoulders/helmet when you're patrolling, and put it on all your stuff when you're sleeping - dropbears don't like the smell of the vegemite, so they'll stay away from it.

So then when they start running exercises against the US troops, they just keep a look out for the vegemite marks/lids to know where they've been.

 

[Flames66]

Its the Same with 'Bah Bah Black Sheep' if i said this in a classroom im a Racist.

Actually, no, the stuff about "Bah Bah black sheep" being banned in classrooms came up a few times over the last few decades, made up by various "news" agencies with agendas of their own.

Political correctness is important. Like everything else, it can, and will be implemented badly at times, but the basic idea of not disrespecting other people through ignorance or malice is an important one.

This. I've never found any anti-racism campaigner complain about Ba Ba Black Sheep, nor any school that has banned it. I have seen numerous ultra-conservative commentators blatantly make up such absurd 'examples' as a means of defaming more reasonable attempts at fighting discrimination.

There's nothing wrong with gold old politeness, and no reason to put the label 'political correctness' on basic manners. Yes, you shouldn't push past the old lady in the queue, and you shouldn't call someone a word that they find offensive, that's just basic manners. Making up absurd examples doesn't negate that.

There are actually schools that have banned the song. It has been rewritten as "bahh bahh rainbow sheep". Humpty dumpty has also been rewritten so as not to upset children.

Personally, I think that changing the song is racist in and of itself as it is implying that black people are so paranoid and sensitive that they will be offended by a song about a sheep.

 

[drunken_munki]

Yeah it is starting to get to me as well. Shakespeare was onto this shit a long time ago... "What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet."

 

[LaughingAtlas]

So... Here's this.
Always trust an australian to sum up your thoughts in an awesome accent.

 

[RadiusXd]

What the hell does bah bah black sheep has to do with racism?

people use to consider it Racist to say 'Black Sheep'

Its Rainbow Sheep now

that doesn't rhyme...........

*puts down thread and walks away*
*blood pressure plummets*

 

[DRobert]

You are plainly making things up. The lyrics have not be changed.

And how would they be changed? Is there a "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep Act 2011 (Cth)" out there? The "Political Correctness Regulations 2011 (Cth)" introduced by the honourable Peter Garrett mp? Is there now a part of the school curriculum that states how nursery rhymes are to be sung? As for people being sued for it, I say name them.

Seriously, all legislation, case law, and school curriculums are available on the internet these days. Go search for the evidence that proves that you are neither a troll nor a deluded individual sparring a strawman.

This is a challenge to everybody. Find a primary source backing up this claim (news websites don't count, I want a piece of legislation, regulation, case, school curriculum, something like that). Until such evidence has been found, please be quiet.

 

[RadiusXd]

Humpty dumpty has also been rewritten so as not to upset children.

How so? by removing the part where he breaks? or does he get put back together again?

If Humpty Dumpty upsets you then real life is gonna be hard for you. Real hard.

 

[ThisIsSnake]

Sure dropbears don't exist, until you sit under a eucalyptus tree and try to prod a koala with a stick to wake it up.

 

[Woodsey]

i agree somewhat with this guy not fully but bits i agree with

You probably should watch the news more often, if only to gain a better understanding of the people you shouldn't watch. Glenn Beck (guy in the video) is a racist, homophobic nutcase and often an outright liar.

Better to avoid FOX News altogether.

As others have said, stuff like the "baa baa black sheep" thing are often spun out by the Right to slag off the Left.

 

[Zantos]

Political correctness is so hit and miss, it doesn't take into account any situational variables. A running joke between our group of friends is to greet a girl we know with "What are you doing out of the kitchen?" Its somewhat of an in joke and we all find it really funny, but theres always some pc brigade prick that crawls out of the woodwork to tell us about gender stereotypes and opression of women and how we're bad people. If we were saying that sort of thing to random people in the street then I can see their point, but as is they're just spoiling our fun.

 

[Zeema]

You are plainly making things up. The lyrics have not be changed.

And how would they be changed? Is there a "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep Act 2011 (Cth)" out there? The "Political Correctness Regulations 2011 (Cth)" introduced by the honourable Peter Garrett mp? Is there now a part of the school curriculum that states how nursery rhymes are to be sung? As for people being sued for it, I say name them.

Seriously, all legislation, case law, and school curriculums are available on the internet these days. Go search for the evidence that proves that you are neither a troll nor a deluded individual sparring a strawman.

This is a challenge to everybody. Find a primary source backing up this claim (news websites don't count, I want a piece of legislation, regulation, case, school curriculum, something like that). Until such evidence has been found, please be quiet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loony_left

http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/racist-baa-baa-black-sheep-put-out-to-pasture/story-e6frfku0-1226012652386

i told u i wasnt making things up

it was a huge thing people actually still believe that u have to say rainbow sheep

i dont make stuff up. I highly doubt i cud find a Document regarding this i did find a newspaper article

but they all seem to dance around the point

some places you CAN say black sheep others you can'y simple as that

 

[Merkavar]

lol drop bears there all extinct around sydney. they were wiped out by the black panthers that roam the bush there. Panther sightings [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_panther#Reports_of_black_panthers_in_Australia]

Yeah, unfortunately almost all the large dangerous animals native to Australia were wiped out when humans first arrived, so we have to import nowdays.

what large dangerous animals were there before humans? Tassie tiger? anything else. i didnt think australia had any large dangerous animals ever. or atleast in the past 100000 years

 

[EllEzDee]

Its the Same with 'Bah Bah Black Sheep' if i said this in a classroom im a Racist.

Christ, do people not have the ability to think with their brains, now-a-days? If you say Bah Bah Black Sheep, you'll simply be laughed at for singing nursery rhymes at such an age. There is NO SUCH BAN on "black sheep", though a few people have beat me to the punch.
How have so many fucking people got it into their head that it's illegal, let alone offensive, to say it?

Gah, fuck. I lost several IQ points having to explain that, and believe me, i don't have many left.

 

[mr_rubino]

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Its the Same with 'Bah Bah Black Sheep' if i said this in a classroom im a Racist.

Oh dear Alan, you've fallen into our little trap. [http://www.glastonbridge.co.uk/flash/q.php?i=Baa+Baa+Black+Sheep+is+Racist]

A controversy emerged over changing the language of 'Baa Baa Black Sheep' in Britain from 1986, because, it was alleged in the popular press, it was seen as racially dubious. This was, as Curran, Pently and Gaber indicate, based only on a rewriting of the rhyme in one private nursery as an exercise for the children there and not on any local government policy.[4] A similar controversy emerged in 1999 when reservations about the rhyme were submitted to Birmingham City Council by a working group on racism in children's resources, which were never approved or implemented.[5] Two private nurseries in Oxfordshire in 2006 altered the song to "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep", with black being replaced with a variety of other adjectives, like "happy, sad, hopping" and "pink".[6] Commentators have asserted that these controversies have been exaggerated or distorted by some elements of the press as part of a more general campaign for political correctness.[4]

oh look, its a fellow named Glenn Beck. He looks like someone we can all trust.

Oh, didn't you hear? Not even Fox trust him now. [http://www.gwinnettdailypost.com/entertainment/headlines/Glenn_Becks_Fox_show_dropped__119342649.html?storySection=comments]

I dont Glen Beck i don't watch american news i live in AUS

and i know people who get upset with me if i say 'Black Sheep'

A. I accidentally Glenn Beck.
B. I'm willing to bet you don't, and have convinced yourself that you do to get Anti-PC Independent Thinker (tm) points.

Its the Same with 'Bah Bah Black Sheep' if i said this in a classroom im a Racist.

Christ, do people not have the ability to think with their brains, now-a-days? If you say Bah Bah Black Sheep, you'll simply be laughed at for singing nursery rhymes at such an age. There is NO SUCH BAN on "black sheep", though a few people have beat me to the punch.
How have so many fucking people got it into their head that it's illegal, let alone offensive, to say it?

Gah, fuck. I lost several IQ points having to explain that, and believe me, i don't have many left.

But *static static* PC *static*!

I like how the first post has 0 to the power of 0 context or explanation. Maybe the guy has some actual consideration for other people and didn't want to offend vegetarians.
Again, we seem to be confusing personal choice with government censorship. That seems to be a trend with the "PC gone mad" crowd. Yes, you can go into the street and scream the N-word at the top of your lungs; you won't, because you can't take criticism. Not because anyone is stopping you.

 

[Thaluikhain]

what large dangerous animals were there before humans? Tassie tiger? anything else. i didnt think australia had any large dangerous animals ever. or atleast in the past 100000 years

There were giant snakes, crocodiles, goannas and flightless birds.

There were also giant kangaroos, turles and wombat-like things, but they aren't believed to have been predatory.

That's for varying uses of the word "giant" though, the biggest goannas could be around 2 tons, while the biggest flightless birds were only about a quarter of that.

 

[Flames66]

Humpty dumpty has also been rewritten so as not to upset children.

How so? by removing the part where he breaks? or does he get put back together again?

If Humpty Dumpty upsets you then real life is gonna be hard for you. Real hard.

It's hard enough without failing to preparing people for discrimination and eventual doom.

 

[mr_rubino]

Its the Same with 'Bah Bah Black Sheep' if i said this in a classroom im a Racist.

Actually, no, the stuff about "Bah Bah black sheep" being banned in classrooms came up a few times over the last few decades, made up by various "news" agencies with agendas of their own.

Political correctness is important. Like everything else, it can, and will be implemented badly at times, but the basic idea of not disrespecting other people through ignorance or malice is an important one.

This. I've never found any anti-racism campaigner complain about Ba Ba Black Sheep, nor any school that has banned it. I have seen numerous ultra-conservative commentators blatantly make up such absurd 'examples' as a means of defaming more reasonable attempts at fighting discrimination.

There's nothing wrong with gold old politeness, and no reason to put the label 'political correctness' on basic manners. Yes, you shouldn't push past the old lady in the queue, and you shouldn't call someone a word that they find offensive, that's just basic manners. Making up absurd examples doesn't negate that.

There are actually schools that have banned the song. It has been rewritten as "bahh bahh rainbow sheep". Humpty dumpty has also been rewritten so as not to upset children.

Personally, I think that changing the song is racist in and of itself as it is implying that black people are so paranoid and sensitive that they will be offended by a song about a sheep.

I just know if I Google this, I'm going to get a circle-jerk at best, so do you have any articles or anything like that you got the Humpty Dumpty thing from?
Again, this sounds like "One nursery school in West East Cheshireford, New South Nothing changed the rhyme around as a teaching tool for a larf one day" becoming "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS CENSORSHIP RUNNING THE WORLD ASTRIDE!!!"

 

[Flames66]

I just know if I Google this, I'm going to get a circle-jerk at best, so do you have any articles or anything like that you got the Humpty Dumpty thing from?
Again, this sounds like "One nursery school in West East Cheshireford, New South Nothing changed the rhyme around as a teaching tool for a larf one day" becoming "POLITICAL CORRECTNESS CENSORSHIP RUNNING THE WORLD ASTRIDE!!!"

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4782856.stm

There is the original event from several years ago. It now seems to have been widely adopted in this country with children I have worked with from different schools all over the city looking very confused when a black sheep is sung about and saying that they were taught about a sheep with the full visible light spectrum.

There are reports that the words were changed in the Oxfordshire nurseries in order to increase the children's vocabularies and I don't claim to know the original reasons behind it.

 

[sleeky01]

And once again this Non-story is recycled.

What's it been?...4 Months since the last poster suddenly "discovered" an unconscious agenda for political correctness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baa,_Baa,_Black_Sheep


The pertinent bit for you:

A controversy emerged over changing the language of 'Baa Baa Black Sheep' in Britain from 1986, because, it was alleged in the popular press, it was seen as racially dubious. This was, as Curran, Pently and Gaber indicate, based only on a rewriting of the rhyme in one private nursery as an exercise for the children there and not on any local government policy.[4] A similar controversy emerged in 1999 when reservations about the rhyme were submitted to Birmingham City Council by a working group on racism in children's resources, which were never approved or implemented.[5] Two private nurseries in Oxfordshire in 2006 altered the song to "Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep", with black being replaced with a variety of other adjectives, like "happy, sad, hopping" and "pink".[6] Commentators have asserted that these controversies have been exaggerated or distorted by some elements of the press as part of a more general campaign for political correctness.

I'm reminded of the annual panic that happens after it's discovered the forces of Political Correctness are trying to ban the use of the word Christmas. (Hint: Bullshit)