I feel sorry for American School Students

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

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agreed, i remember how fucking pissed off i was my senior year, i was finishing up a huge project for a huge shed to be used at the school for years to come (nice piece of work, honestly), straight A student, athlete, yadda yadda yadda, anyways to the main point, We were running low on screws and a few other things and I knew my mom was off that day so I whipped out my phone (teacher said it was fine) and called my mom to pick it up real quick (we have a hardware store just down the road from the school) and in that process our ***** head principal comes flailing at me grabs my phone and takes me to her office to write me up for a detention all the while my teacher is explaining what the situation was and how he said it was okay that i did such, but she wouldn't have any of it, and while in the process of me getting wrote up for a detention on that, another kid walks in who has been absent/skipping the past 2 weeks (he was in one of my classes and he was a complete fucking pile who would randomly leave class) and all he got was a reminder to go to class and a pat on the back for coming to the office about it

oh and after all that my mom had to come up to the school to pick up my phone at the end of the day after my detention, i was so freaking pissed after that, I'm so glad I'm out of high school now

Nothing exactly like that happened at my high school, but there was one time when an upstanding student was being harassed by one of the reject failures. Reject ended up punching the good student in the gut for no real reason, and when the good student recovered and saw that the reject was going to punch him in the face, he deflected it. The reject got hit in the face by his own arm and got a bloody nose. There were a bunch of student witnesses and a teacher(that was too far off to get there in time to stop it), and the vice principal that was actually walking with that teacher. The teacher and the students stood up for the good student, because they new that he was just defending himself.

The messed up part came when the vice principal only gave the reject two days of detention and gave the good student a week suspension.

I have no idea what was going through that vice principals mind that the defender should get a worse punishment.

can highly believe that, i do not understand how the person who is defending themselves always get the same or a worse punishment, wtf are you supposed to do, take the beating of your life in front of everyone? with the logic of the schools there is no way to get out of that situation without having something bad bite you in the ass.

 

[CleverCover]

Our system needs a complete re-do.

It's why a lot of people I know are sending their kids to private schools now. Nobody feels the public system does what it's supposed to...and that's the ones who feel they can afford it.

It's not just the food...although that might be a reason why my mother had us make all our lunches instead of buying school lunch...

 

[riverand]

Thank you for starting this discussion. It is one close to my heart on so many levels - as a teacher, as a food blogger and as a US and global citizen.

Our schools are sick. They have been for a long time. Our nation's students do not score in any competitive range in any subject matter when compared to the global community, but when surveyed about confidence - US students lead the pack. Now WHY IS THAT? Better question HOW is that?

If you ask almost any student in America about the state of our education system, they will often say that they agree it is not the best, so what the heck do they have to be so confident about?? I don't mean to be a Debbi-downer here (I am born and raised USA, myself), but where do we get off THINKING we still have what it takes to be the leaders of the free world?

I am not saying it is a lost cause. I am just saying that we can't all keep saying that the system is sick, but somehow all of its parts come out immune!

I don't have a solution, but I think about this A LOT as it is my passion, my calling, my love. I think the first step is to recognize our own accountability in this problem as students, teachers, tax-payers and citizens.

~The food issue is a HUGE one - a hungry, malnourished mind is useless - the right types of food can make all the difference in the world.

~Then teacher education needs an overhaul, and some places are embracing this.

~Colleges need to be institutions of continued learning, not businesses treating their students like paying customers.

~RESPECT must be earned back by schools, teachers and administrators. Citizens need to realize we are on the same side: fighting for the future of our kids and our country.

~Education/acquisition of knowledge, or a skill must be valued more than money (this will only happen when people believe again in our American school system.)

...Oh boy, there is so much more, but it's Friday, this is The escapist forums, not my soapbox and, while on this medical leave of mine, I've run out of steam!

Sorry for the extra long post/preach, but there are some topics I just can't click away from

 

[Voxgizer]

"No child left behind" roughly translates to "Everyone is 'special' and 'smart.'" No, they're fucking not.

Our educational system is a fucked up mess. The only time anyone does anything right is if a teacher actually puts it more effort than they're paid for to make it more interesting for the kids and not dumbing it down.

Teachers don't get paid enough to put up with the shit they deal with from the snot nosed little shit bags either.

Cutting funding for schools...let's see...let's take away the money that's SUPPOSED to be there to EDUCATE our FUTURE. Yea, brilliant fucking idea. Let the new generation suffer in stupidity.

I'm finding it harder and harder to say I'm proud of my country.

 

[EternalFacepalm]

Food is the least of the problems in the education system; however, as far as I'm concerned, no one's been able to make a system that actually works. I'm not all that happy with my education either.

 

[PneumaticSuicide]

There are more serious problems with the AMerican school system than fucking lunches. More intelectual persuits like advance mathematics and physics are being dropped at myt old highschool so they can save money to spend on the useless ass football team.

I can say, without doubt, that all the currant problems with the education system is tied into money, and the root of this problem is No Child Left Behind. Usless fucking program... I need to stop talking about this, or im going to start raging soon...

jeez somebody doen't like lunch, it is clearly obvious that alot of people don't understand the importance of correct nutrition in order the maintain brain function. You can have all the maths and physics you like but if you eat rubber and pieces of string for lunch well then chances are you not gonna remember you name let alone what Hawking radiation theory is

 

[Arsen]

The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!

Was in the Huntington West Virginia skit?

 

[Kingsman]

Months upon months of hate on America in a hundred different threads, I finally come across one I agree with, and no one mentions the documentary "Waiting for Superman" at all, instead just rapping on the school lunches and the funding.

It's like shotputts are growing in my stomach, what I feel as I read these posts.

People. School funding has been increasing since the days of Gerald Ford. THE MONEY IS NOT THE ISSUE. It's the unions.

"Waiting for Superman." Watch it. Embrace it.

 

[Wargamer]

You know, I have a problem with Jamie Oliver and his idealistic crap. For someone who is supposedly an expert on food he is completely oblivious to some of the most basic aspects of people?s eating habits. Specifically, the fact that people won?t eat food if it tastes like shit.

When I was in school, more often than not I skipped lunch altogether because we weren?t allowed to bring our own in. As such, I?d just bring in money for the tuck shop and buy a shitload of chocolate at break that I could wolf down instead of whatever they were serving. Just about the only thing I would eat were the chips, pizza and potato croquettes, though the latter two became increasingly rare as my time in school went on, to the point were neither were served once during my last two years there.

There is absolutely no point whatsoever in trying to force salad onto the plates of children, because even as an adult I won?t eat the stuff. Ultimately, you need to start cooking with a brain if you want to get anywhere, and ultimately if the choice is you serving bacon sandwiches in the school cafeteria or wasting money on salads while the kids all order from MacDonalds, then maybe you should just admit defeat and listen to the people you?re providing for.

 

[Generalzdave]

Regardless of what you may hear, the reason behind our entire school system is to improve the economy of the US(We could do without the "No dip, Sherlock" comments for a change). I haven't heard much about it recently, but a lot of school systems are prohibiting bag lunches from home, in favor of their dirt-cheap meals being royally overcharged on kids so they don't go hungry for eight hours. Science and Math courses are constantly being pushed in our faces because apparently every European has a four-year degree in physics and we have to catch up and make more money for Uncle Sam. Money in the citizens' pockets, which will then be taxed off to oblivion, even by our standards, to pull the country out of debt. It's all geared around profit, and it gets exasperating while we're the laughing stock of the world. And while nutrition is a part of it, people can eat what they are comfortable with if they can afford it. Unless I am in danger of contracting HIV from a school hotdog, the menu isn't a world-shattering issue.

 

[briunj04]

I feel sorry for myself too.
Donations are appreciated :3

 

[Jegsimmons]

The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!

if you didn't want to sound like your attacking you seriously needed to re-write what you said in a less insulting manner.
I went to american public schools and the food was fine, granted the system isn't perfect but its not a failed system. Just a flawed one.

 

[cefm]

I'm pretty sure that the school district in question, when it was looking for a provider of school lunch products for its thousands of students, published a request for proposals to vendors with basic requirements, reviewed the bids, did a thorough review of a selection of highest-ranked bidders, and selected a winning bid that met the requirements and the budget available. And if I was the superintendent responsible for not breaking that contract, I'd be kind of pissed off at a 1-sided TV show coming in and trying to make the school system look like crap when Mr. Oliver never would have been able to meet the requirements to bid on the contract in the first place. The show raises some good points but it's 90% staged fluff designed to make people look bad who are doing the best with what they have available.

 

[Sonic Doctor]

you either brought your own lunch or bought 2-4 lunches each day. Regardless of that i would say the school systems need more of an overhaul than the food though, some of the policies and the way teachers/kids act about school is so fucking facepalm worthy its almost not worth going.

We are lucky that we went to schools that didn't regulate what we brought to school for lunch.

There was a girl in one of my college classes that talked about her little sister who was in high school. In previous years, the mother would occasionally bring the sister a Subway sandwich for lunch when the mother was on her lunch break at the same time. Then the school adopted a policy that no fast/franchise chain food could be brought to school for lunch. They also said that students couldn't bring in specialty items, baked goods like cake and cookies, or candy. The school system's stance was that that not only were such items not good for the students' health, they didn't want the poor students that had to have a school provided lunch to get jealous or sad that they didn't get to have such things for their lunches.

Also there is the over protection of lunchtime at my little nephew's school. He can't bring anything with peanuts in it, because one student in the school is allergic. My nephew can't bring his favorite food, peanut butter and jelly, to lunch, and he can't bring his favorite peanut butter snack crackers. The reason I say it is over protection is that when I, and my brother, and even when my dad went to school, we had several students that went to school with us that had a peanut allergy, but students could bring peanut products to lunch. And guess what, none of the peanut allergy students ended up dieing, because such students were watched after and those students themselves were smart enough not to eat peanut stuff. At my dad's school back in the day, they served peanut butter and molasses sandwiches for lunch on some days. On those days, they fixed something special for the students that had the allergy.

The protection acts of schools on such matters need to be scaled back. I'm tired of seeing all the over protection of kids these days in and outside of schools. It is because of such over protection that cool things in life get toned down or removed. I remember when Lego sets with cannons that actually shot the little cylinder pieces, but these days, cannons are just decoration. That is just one of millions of injustices brought against cool things. School wise, I remember when we were allowed to bring our own toys and video game devices to school for recess. I also remember when we actually could use real sports equipment, and remember in later years when it was taken away because "we could get hurt".

 

[Jabberwock xeno]

The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!

More or less, yeah.

Though the teachers here are nice, it's the people upstairs; the school board and supderindentent; they suck.

 

[Cazza]

Change is hard. It's going to cost lots of time and money. I think food isn't the highest on the American education departments list.

 

[PneumaticSuicide]

The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!

if you didn't want to sound like your attacking you seriously needed to re-write what you said in a less insulting manner.
I went to american public schools and the food was fine, granted the system isn't perfect but its not a failed system. Just a flawed one.

How about this then, if Americans considered comments about how there country runs and took constructive criticism with merit i wouldn't have to re-enforce that i wasn't attacking their very existence. It is a failed system, i have watched enough American made docos regarding said education only to be baffled as to how even 1% of the educated minds don't even know what continent you populate. What is worse is that figure is being generous

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

I'm willing to sacrifice the health of America's school children to spite Jamie Oliver. Thank god I was in 6th form when they removed the vending machines...

yep nothing like manifesting fat cunts just to spite one man who is trying to stop obesity, goddamn people and their concern for people they don't have to worry about but do just to keep them alive long enough to realise they have only one shot at life and not to waste is on cheeseburgers

http://www.wikihow.com/Have-a-Sense-of-Humor
It's the first thing google gave me, maybe you should take a look.

 

[PneumaticSuicide]

The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!

if you didn't want to sound like your attacking you seriously needed to re-write what you said in a less insulting manner.
I went to american public schools and the food was fine, granted the system isn't perfect but its not a failed system. Just a flawed one.

How about this then, if Americans considered comments about how there country runs and took constructive criticism with merit i wouldn't have to re-enforce that i wasn't attacking their very existence. It is a failed system, i have watched enough American made docos regarding said education only to be baffled as to how even 1% of the educated minds don't even know what continent you populate. What is worse is that figure is being generous[/q*uote]

*their

 

[Gindil]

The reason why i bring this subject up is because i have recently been watching Jamie Oliver's food revolution. I was completely stunned by the reaction of the superintendent (i'm not really sure how important this position is) and how he is allowed to make a universal decision in regard to what children eat.

This just proves to me that the American education system fails at the most basic fundementals.

Please do NOT take this as an attack!!!

There's a lot of problems with our school system:

Inept or outdated teaching methods
Politicizing of teacher's effectiveness
Overcrowding of public school systems
Nutrition

There's so much that could be changed, but no one wants to because it takes so much effort.