I find Destiny's DLC trailer incredibly irritating

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Lufia Erim said:
OT: i always find it funny when people complain about games they've never played. I mean WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DESTINY? In the new dlc they added a little characterisation of the NPCs and a little funny dialog.
I know that my Guardian doesn't have a single new line of dialog in the new expansion, and this is despite the fact that they re-recorded what little dialog the player character has with a different actor. My Ghost acts like he's my mouthpiece.

Cayde-6 is also the only character to get any real characterization, if only because he's voiced by Captain Malcolm Reynolds. Nathan Fillion is entertaining, don't get me wrong, but it comes at almost everyone else's expense.
 

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It's not that bad. Is it Halo 3: ODST level of awesome? Hell no. But it isn't an abomination or anything like that. It's also nice seeing a trailer on Hulu that I'm actually the demographic for.
 

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The marketing peeps who probably don't play video games let alone anything by Bungie are just trying to produce something that would make Destiny appeal to as many people as possible so the game/DLC would sell better. Y'know, like what trailers and adverts are supposed to do.
 

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I kinda liked it.

Hell, if it was any indication of the actual game I might have considered playing Destiny again.
 

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Dalsyne said:
I can't watch that trailer, but I know for a fact that nothing can trump this dumb thing:


Because the perfect theme to Space Marines on a Space Hulk hunting Tyranids is some mexican mariachi hip-hop bullshit. Like, what the fuck.
I...what. That is the most absurd thing I've seen in months. I don't get how you can be making a 40k/Space Hulk game and not license some Bolt Thrower [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QL19beIJSE0]. I mean, the cover for Realm Of Chaos is Rogue Trader art.

On-topic: I think you might be overreacting just a little. You want a stupid trailer, go look at the ones for Bioshock Infinite. The Destiny ones are actually pretty cool, much like the rest of Bungie's trailers (even if the games never quite clicked for me).
 

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I think the most irritating thing about this is that Led Zeppelin's music was forbidden to be used for commercials and marketing for an incredibly long time... they break the streak with this? And good call on it not fitting the setting or theme at all. Where's the connection between a debauchery-laden English classic rock group from the 70's and a Borderlands-Halo fusion of a mediocre science fiction game? Not seeing it.

However it does deserve some credit for introducing younger generations to good music, even though I'm sure Black Dog's video on YouTube is now filled with dozens of "I'm 15 and I listen to this instead of Justin Bieber fuck my generation I'm so unique!" comments.
 

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I like this trailer. I actually prefer live-action or CGI trailers to gameplay ones (though I do think games should release both, or at least some sort of gameplay video on YouTube) because it's very rare that a gameplay mechanic is what hooks me on a game. With the exception of For Honor, which would've never sold me on its premise - that swordplay mechanic got my attention - I prefer a trailer to show the game's world, tone or story. The Witcher 3's 'A Night To Remember' trailer, the one higher up in this thread, was perfect for it. The music, the use of the Black Blood potion before the fight, the glitter-bomb and the lullaby characterising witchers as the monster even monsters are afraid of. All of that combined to give The Witcher a truly unique feel.

These Destiny trailers do the same thing for me. I go into the game expecting fun - if simple - combat in a variety of locations. I like the fact it makes the boss fights come across as theme park rides because that's how the game treats them. There's little difference in tone between the trailers and the game itself.
No, Destiny is guiltier of far bigger crimes. Like trying to sell itself as 'games as a service' and then parcelling up all its content and selling it to us and ultimately making us regret buying the base game when they were only going to offer the 'complete' edition later on. The bastards. I was so looking forward to a developing storyline with added features. I was expecting a kind of MMO-style alteration, or even like Crusader Kings II does. See, in that, even if you don't buy the DLC, your core game gets updated anyway. I haven't yet bought the Horse Lords pack and I've still got the new minor titles and court interface. It's not a major addition, but it's something.
Destiny decided that 'games as a service' meant 'pay for DLC' as though that wasn't already a thing, and then if you paid £15 you got a bunch of missions and some new weapons and armour. If you didn't pay £15, you didn't get the weapons and armour. Which is fine. But what you also didn't get was any new game content. No new missions. No reason to continue playing the game after you beat the story, because it had nothing else to offer.

And I know the Vault of Glass was a thing. It was such a pain in the arse to organise though, I never actually got to play it because I was either at university or my 'clan' was at work. With no matchmaking system, I was pretty effectively locked out of the shitty vault.
But, no, if I load up Destiny right now, I guarantee I'll be playing the exact same game I stopped playing months ago. New daily challenges with alternating weapon skins are not representative of 'new content.' "Kill fifty bad guys FOR THE QUEEN" was no different to killing fifty bad guys for my own sake. Just fuck off, Destiny, we're not mates.
 

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Yeah, Activision has a habit of pulling this kind of bullshit. It is the same thing with the Call of Duty trailers: They are all "ha ha" about everything that is going on, and then you get into the game and it is all like "NUKES! WAR! DEATH! RUSSIANS! GRRRRRR!", and the disparity just irritates me.

These trailers show that Bungie/Activision/Call of Duty devs are aware of the kind of attitude that the players have within the games, but it just seems like poor marketing to me when they advertise their games like the trailer above, and then have the game be all "DARKNESS! EVIL! WAR! ALIENS! SERIOUSNESS!".

Fucking own it. One way or the other.
 

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Laggyteabag said:
Yeah, Activision has a habit of pulling this kind of bullshit. It is the same thing with the Call of Duty trailers
I was about to say something similar. It's not Bungie so much as it's Activision. A publishing giant run by old men in suits who think they know how to appeal to gamers by emulating or just blatantly copying something that sold well and is kind of related.

Destiny's entire thing is to copy other games. Borderlands in particular. I still don't understand how that game managed to hype people. Same with Call of Duty. They're not even trying to hide the fact that they're blatantly copying TitanFall in the latest one. Remember when CoD introduced Gun Game mode in first Blops? So many people thought it was an original idea.

So this is just something that Activision does regularly. Just ignore their games and you'll be fine.
 

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Lufia Erim said:
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Yeah, petty subject, I know. But there's just something particular about this one that gets under my skin. I haven't played Destiny, and nor am I intending to after this incredibly obnoxious piece of marketing for its upcoming DLC:


Jesus! Could you be any more trying to be Borderlands as written by Joss Whedon's worst aspects as a writer? HEY GUYS WE'RE INCREDIBLY QUIPPY AND FUNNY HEY HERE'S SOME ONE LINERS HA HA ISN'T THAT FUNNY?? AND HERE'S A CLASSIC ROCK TRACK THAT DOESN'T SUIT THE SCIFI SETTING AT ALL BUT WE USE IN MARKETING ANYWAY BECAUSE IT'S RECOGNIZED AND IT MEANS WE'RE ROCKING AND ROLLING AMIRITE ALSO AREN'T WE QUIRKY AND WACKY!!!!?!?!?!?!?

To my understanding the game's tone was nothing like in this trailer. Why is it trying to be all wacky and humorous when Borderlands 2 did all that three years ago with more color, personality, creativity, and frankly, better writing? This looks like offbeat marketing by committee of the highest order: an accounting sheet with all the elements of how to make a "quirky" trailer, and all it manages to come across is incredibly annoying.

Anyway, mini-rant over. Just needed to vent about something I guess. Who else thinks this? What other pieces of video game marketing did you find irritating?
The only thing that bugs me about that trailer is that it makes Destiny look like a fun, squad based TPS with space magic powers.
But it's a fun squad based FPS with space magic powers... it's not too far off.

OT: i always find it funny when people complain about games they've never played. I mean WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DESTINY? In the new dlc they added a little characterisation of the NPCs and a little funny dialog. Is the story shit ? Yes i won't argue that, but you are attacking the wrong thing.
Honestly I think Destiny's two biggest mistakes were being an FPS and being an MMO. I know that sounds super unfair since I'm basically gutting the game but the FPS view doesn't let me take in all the obviously good work that went into the environment design and most importantly the character design (which I think is just gorgeous) and being an MMO means they passed up the chance to do an nice, if not original then well presented, space opera epic.
 

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The "Joss Whedon" comments are spot on. This kind of thing made my skin crawl back in the late 90s and it still has the same effect now.
 

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Well it's marketing for the lowest common denominator, and because that audience by far outnumbers people who might give a shit this is the better financial direction.
Now I might be upset with a game that has a high grade story but I'm not even sure what the story might be, I am sure however the writers also don't have a clue.
 

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Dubious Cow said:
I think the most irritating thing about this is that Led Zeppelin's music was forbidden to be used for commercials and marketing for an incredibly long time... they break the streak with this? And good call on it not fitting the setting or theme at all. Where's the connection between a debauchery-laden English classic rock group from the 70's and a Borderlands-Halo fusion of a mediocre science fiction game? Not seeing it.

However it does deserve some credit for introducing younger generations to good music, even though I'm sure Black Dog's video on YouTube is now filled with dozens of "I'm 15 and I listen to this instead of Justin Bieber fuck my generation I'm so unique!" comments.
Yeah Black Dog is one of my favorite Led Zep songs, and it so shouldn't be appearing in sub-par shite like this, but on the plus side it did mean I could tune out just how bad the commercial is and enjoy the music! :)
 

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After watching that trailer, the players seem like a bunch of assholes blowing shit up and murdering peoples' kids for no reason. Who the hell does that?
I'm totally hoping that demon-space-king kills those smug asshats. I know it won't bring his demon-space-baby back, but he may rest easier knowing that the psychopath responsible won't be around to destroy any more families
 

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I agree. That trailer fell completely flat. It just isn't anywhere near as funny or cool as the makers seem to think it is. Very cringy.
 

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I think it moronic because it doesn't show any of the game. If a game TV spot can't bother to show me what the GAME looks like, there is exactly 0% change I will buy it based on that.