I get why Dragon Age 2 gets lousy user reviews.

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voetballeeuw

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OtherSideofSky said:
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Well I've been playing plenty of DAII and have had no severe problems with it. My team is functioning superbly, and the story has been enjoyable. Plus, it's a bit ridiculous that all those negative reviews on day one are because the game's bad. Most, I think, are just gamers that are angry with the changes made. I'm sorry that you've been having gameplay issues though, but Bioware can't really fix them on day two of the release.
...Wait, it's "ridiculous" that a lot of negative reviews could be a reflection of the game's quality? I'm not saying that they necessarily have to be right, but they at least prove that it initially made an unfavorable impression on a lot of people and that has to count for something. I mean, it's only the second Dragon Age game. There can't be [i/]that[/i] many crazy fans who are going to whine about it being different, unless they took out something that was really central to the experience.
I'd recommend that you actually check out the user reviews on Metacritic, since many people are complaining not about the game but the fact that Bioware "betrayed" them, by streamlining the game. Many reviews don't have a single ounce of reason behind the score, and allude to EA "bribing" critics. I have no problem with people who dislike it, but by blatantly attacking the game without reason is illogical. Like I mentioned, it's not DA:O fans, it's the "old-school" (not sure about what to call them) RPG crowd.
 

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Mcoffey said:
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I haven't had a single bug like the OP said he had. But if everyone remembers the lead writer for the game did say something about how 4chan was just a place to rant on so I think they might have 0 bombed it for revenge.
Actually the rumor that /v/ was behind the zero bombings was just that; a rumor. It may have been an organized effort to a degree, but /v/ wasn't responsible this time.
Damn I must admit that is a surprise but it does make me wonder who organized it then. The game wasn't even close to being bad enough to get all those ratings on its own on the 1st day.
 

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sumanoskae said:
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8+ hours in and I have no idea what you're talking about. Nothing like what your are saying has happened.

My only complaint is that there isn't as much character development in the allies because I have to go through a load screen to see each one.
I thought that a first to.

It gets a lot better after the deep roads expedition.
It gets BETTER?
Wow, I'm 12 hours in and just about to start that and I am absolutely loving this game (first Bioware RPG I've ever owned) on normal difficulty.
The combat style is keeping me engaged. I'd rather take Dynasty Warriors + special abilities over WoW wait-to-die + hotkeys any day.
I'm loving the dialogue and I really have to think about most dialogue choices.
Sure there have been some graphical glitches but they are few and far between.
Seriously, any troll too scared about the changes in this game can come talk to me. I'll defend this game to the end.
 

mireko

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I'm not getting it due to the fact that BioWare got rid of the ability to customise your main character. Well done, guys. Put me right off.
Let me get this straight, the only thing you care about when it comes to customization is race?

I mean, that's fine, it just strikes me as odd.
 

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If anything I feel left out, with my party dishing out damage very well, so no issue here.
I imagine when I turn the difficulty up I'll get hammered.
 

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mireko said:
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I'm not getting it due to the fact that BioWare got rid of the ability to customise your main character. Well done, guys. Put me right off.
Let me get this straight, the only thing you care about when it comes to customization is race?

I mean, that's fine, it just strikes me as odd.
I just don't understand why they'd totally scrap it. I liked Dragon Age Origins more because you could make your character look however you liked. But no. YOU ARE HAWKE. GET USED TO IT.
 

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at least 8 hours in and i don't see those issues at all...

there are only two things that annoy me... team mates still follow you (albeit from far away) while moving in free stealth (probably necessary to keep up the processing or something else technical, and i don't use it THAT much so it isn't that necessary)

and not being able to change the armor on your companions (which is probably necessary to streamline the game, and to allow you to actually de-junk your inventory, so i'm not that upset) but this is coming from someone who liked the inventory system in mass effect 1, so i'm clearly a little bit nuts
 

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Nova Helix said:
8+ hours in and I have no idea what you're talking about. Nothing like what your are saying has happened.
Something like what he's talking about happens to me (xbox 360 version). it seems to only happen if you order your team to hold position. This is very annoying and definitely needs a fix but I've worked around it. And as far as I can tell, this game isn't any more buggy than origins and awakening in which all my specializations became permanently relocked >_>
 

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Deshara said:
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Gamers are, in my experience, by nature, children. And I don't mean young. I have seen so many people acting like this, that I am convinced that a gamer that doesn't ***** and cry and whine and go full out fucking Boston tea-party and riot in the streets and pull a million man march on the capital to call for the drawing and quartering of every employee of any game company that didn't spend millions of dollars to tailor-make a game to be perfect to their own personal standards and requirements is the exception.
I think that can apply to people in general
Unfortunately, gamers are the only demographic I'm aware of in which self-entitled rage is expected. I can't think of a single fellow avid-reader who's ever boycotted any work, no matter how deserving it was of it, and yet I bet we all know thousands of gamers boycotted L4D2 as soon as it was announced, and I unfortunately know dozens of people personally who buy games and consoles of the "bad" companies just to destroy them. We can claim that our industry produces art for mature adults all we want, but as long as there are as many screaming, crying children among our numbers as there are, I simply can't buy it :/
"go full out fucking Boston tea-party". How bout politics?.

I know a few Harry Potter and Star Wars fans that do that with the movies. A few movie goers that do that to films just because they're black and white. And a shit load of "Music Lovers" who dismiss any band that makes more then minimum wage.

We can claim that our race produces mature, insightful works of art, but as long as there are this many idiotic, self centered, entitled little shits among us, I don't believe we've gotten anywhere since we were burning witches at the stake... but that's not true is it?.

You can't judge something based on how bad it get's, anything can be done badly, with that attitude you'll never be able to appreciate anything, hell, life itself has a lot more working out of it's favor then in, but that doesn't mean that it's not worth doing. You and I are both gamers, and we're not idiots. Look at this site, it stands to this day as a reminder that we gamers are not as the media portrays us.

It's not just gamers that play games, it's not just readers that read books, it's not just film buffs who watch movies. A grand majority of "Gamers" never touch anything outside of Modern Warfare, a grand majority of "Readers" never glance at anything outside Twilight, a grand majority of "Film Buffs" never go to see anything but the newest Transformers or Expendables equivalent.

You're on the internet, quality control is a joke, and so are the people it's meant to discourage.

But no matter what they do, how much they complain, how much they scream for boycotts, the artists that truly touch our hearts, engage our minds, and enrich our lives, and the people who truly appreciate and understand, will drag them kicking and screaming to the future, and in the end, they will thank us for it.

Unfortunately, the nature of games and the medias misguided portrayal of them means that they're a medium that appeals to the kind of person who spends their time bitching on forums instead of real life, as a result, it seems like there are a lot more people who ***** and complain then there actually are, because the people who don't ***** and complain have better things to do with their time.

But none the less, haven't you had at least one moment, when you were playing a favorite title, that you paused for a moment to think "This is a work of art"?
 

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Wayneguard said:
Nova Helix said:
8+ hours in and I have no idea what you're talking about. Nothing like what your are saying has happened.
Something like what he's talking about happens to me (xbox 360 version). it seems to only happen if you order your team to hold position. This is very annoying and definitely needs a fix but I've worked around it. And as far as I can tell, this game isn't any more buggy than origins and awakening in which all my specializations became permanently relocked >_>
That isn't broken, they are doing what you told them to do (hold position)
 

FlyAwayAutumn

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18+ hrs of game time and not a single bug. So I have no clue what you're on about. This game is addicting though, I've recently decided it's my new official favorite game. I'm going to lose sleep this weekend.
 

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"I heard that if you wander off in the dark, you'll be eaten by a grue. I read that somewhere..."

HA! I love you DA2 : )

I'm over 20 hours in, just at the deep roads part finally, and I'm loving it.
 

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Nova Helix said:
That isn't broken, they are doing what you told them to do (hold position)
Yes, but that is annoying and I couldn't figure out why my melee characters were just standing there. I had to keep moving them manually then I realized I told them to hold position. I was like *Facepalm*
 

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Sendura said:
mireko said:
Sendura said:
I'm not getting it due to the fact that BioWare got rid of the ability to customise your main character. Well done, guys. Put me right off.
Let me get this straight, the only thing you care about when it comes to customization is race?

I mean, that's fine, it just strikes me as odd.
I just don't understand why they'd totally scrap it. I liked Dragon Age Origins more because you could make your character look however you liked. But no. YOU ARE HAWKE. GET USED TO IT.
Because Dragon Age 2 is the story of Hawke, Champion of Kirkwall, just like Mass Effect is the story of Commander Shepard. Dragon Age: Origins was the story of the Grey Warden, but that Grey Warden was never a set plot character (race wise) in the universe to begin with. Hawke and Commander Shepard were. You didn't get to pick your race in Mass Effect either, so why would you in Dragon Age? Also, Hawke's entire family and siblings are all human. It wouldn't make sense for Hawke to be a dwarf or an elf and have that make any valid sense whatsoever.

OT: I encountered absolutely none of those bugs presented, and I've played the entire way through in a 30 hour fest. The only "bug" I encountered in it, however, was a glitch of a certain boss character pinning me through a wall where we were facing off. But even that is a very, very, very rare and almost infinitesimal chance of ever happening again.
 

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I haven't played it, but all my friends that have say they hate it. Yet again, all of my friends and my self are posters on /v/...