I got arrested for calling a cop an a-hole.
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Strangely you don't even need to have a privacy fence in that city to run around in circles naked. The decency laws for that town only extend to lewd acts. So just sunning naked on private property (even your front yard) is fine, make a suggestive gesture and it is off to jail. Utah, makes you drink 3% beer, but lets you walk around naked - go figure.photog212 said:
They arrested me in my yard, I mean guns drawn, shouting at me to lay down. First time I set foot on the side walk was after I was arrested and in handcuffs. They responded to an attempted break in at my neighbor, not even a noise complaint. The lady was paranoid and it was her son trying to sneak back into the house. She made it a point to tell them I wasn't doing anything wrong.
You can try it.SwmnNE1 said:
And you will fail.
The most important piece of advice that I've ever been given was given to me on the first day on my Law course. "When you come into the police, there is only one name for the officer in front of you. He's not 'officer', he's not 'dude', and he's sure as hell not 'piggy'. You call him 'sir'."
TL;DR You were a prat. Go to court, kiss as much ass as you need to, say your Hail Mary's and hope the judge is feeling nice and gives you a minor fine.
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No, sir, you're from NEW Jersey. I'M from Jersey, we have better cows then you. Our governor used to own your state, hence the name.SwmnNE1 said:
We can also run rings around the cops down here, most of them can't catch a reasonably fit teenager.
If you're going to represent yourself for the lulz, call the Judge an asshole too, then you can be found in Contempt of Court...
...then you can look him in the eyes and say "I have nothing BUT contempt for this court" [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjAhTKsxf5Y#movie_player].
[small](it would also help if you could transform into a car and roll out of there).[/small]
...then you can look him in the eyes and say "I have nothing BUT contempt for this court" [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjAhTKsxf5Y#movie_player].
[small](it would also help if you could transform into a car and roll out of there).[/small]
No.... I very much doubt it. NEVER say anything untoward to a policeman because, let's face it, they're generally pretty bored (round here they are anyway) and they'll look to book you for anything and I mean - you just blatantly swore at him. What did you expect?
The first amendment is a double-edged sword though. Just as you are entitled to insult him, he is entitled to arrest your ass for insulting him.SwmnNE1 said:
Seriously, talking back to a cop was stupid.
photog212 said:
Off topic: Yes. People are still getting arrested. Including this crazy ***** who brought me (at ten years old, at the time) to tears with threats because I wrote a letter to our principle objecting and questioning something that was in our handbook because I thought it was illegal for them to do. Then all Hell got raised because I questioned our Fuherer. Upon reflection I must say..."What the fuck?"
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press, or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.Lord Krunk said:
Do we all know what it means to abridge something?
He had no such right
If it was up to me it would be illegal, but it's probably illegal enough for you get a fine and some warning. What happened to the good old days when people addressed cops as "sir" or "mam?" Nowadays all these kids disrespect cops for no reason other than their egos and when we don't have authority anymore, we'll have anarchy. Anarchy is when people just go around shooting each other and taking whatever they want because they feel like it. We can just tell the cops -"Hey fuck off buddy, I have Amendment rights, can't you see I'm trying to rob the bank here?." Sounds great doesn't it?SwmnNE1 said:
This is probably a more interesting summary of what the judge will tell you later. Believe it or not, there are reasons we can't call cops assholes whenever we want!
I actually had my first police encounter a little while ago. Me and my mates were walking around at about 3 in the morning, hanging out basically, and as we were walking past our school, a cop car pulls out. We didn't get in trouble or anything, the guy just asked where we lived and what we were doing, but he was generally an asshole about it. Insulting cops is always a bad idea, because, as much as everyone hates it, they have the power. I doubt you're going to win this battle mate.
Nah, I was fine with them arresting me. They where doing their job, but once they found out that not only was there no crime, but that I was in no way involved they should have just released me, and not given me a citation. They probably gave it to me for being Mexican. I normally would be the last to scream racism and since it has seen such a decline in most places I would chastise others for jumping on the racism bandwagon, but this is Utah. I got crap all the time for being Mexican.photog212 said:
SwmnNE1 said:
Okay, let me put this in more understandable terms. You have right to speak freely of your opinions, but you have no right to be an asshole, especially when you're insulting a person to their face.photog212 said:
Normally, someone will just ignore you because you're not worth listening to anyway. But a policeman? Well, he'll go right out of his way to make sure the legal system fucks you up the ass.
It's just desserts, pal.
The good ol' days of fire hoses and police dogs being unleashed on people who wanted civil rights? The good ol' days of city sponsored lynching? The good ol' days of police chiefs living in mobster pockets?ResiEvalJohn said:
I think progress happened to those good ol' days. Just not enough.
Grrr, stole my line. I sent a similar quote to a guy in our county who claimed having a nativity scene in front of our courthouse around Christmas was unconstitutional. People LOVE to claim something is their "right" but most don't know what the constitution actually says half the time. That's why people like me are around. Once again, I know some folks think he deserves a fine. Even I do to some extent. But my dilemma is he is being charged with breaking a law that doesn't exist and his freedom is being infringed. That is something that can't be allowed, because it starts with one freedom and ends with them all. If cops want to be able to arrest/beat people for insulting them, they can go to China. A country where Christian Churches and other "unapproved" Churches get destroyed and the congregation brutalized by cops and rent-a-thugs. Freedom of Speech in particular is important, and I'm going to tell you why. Even in places that have most of the same liberties, there are still a lot of holes in said freedom. Like in Germany. Anyone who is familiar with the language is familiar with the difference between "du" and "sie". The latter is formal, and if you refer to a policeman in Germany as the informal version, you can get a fine because it's offensive. America is (suppose) to be the only place where you CAN get away with saying what you want to say. That's why I think the OP, while what he did was a dick move, needs to raise all Hell.SwmnNE1 said: