I got arrested for calling a cop an a-hole.

[CroMagnon]

Night. Good luck, you'll need it.

 

[crypt-creature]

Research?

The amendment is right there.
Clear as day.

If it's 'clear as day' then you shouldn't have any problem understanding that what you did can, and will, get you in trouble and that you do not have the right to insult anyone that you want under the 'freedom of speech' claim.
The only thing it does is say that specific circumstances will not be targeted under that amendment. It doesn't cover other social instances, such as yours.

What you did was neither legal nor illegal, it was just dumb and you can be punished for it.

 

[Ph33nix]

And being a wise ass while he was talking to me and asking for an ID.

Charged with disorderly conduct.
I co-operated completely during the arrest. Gave him my information (albeit in a smart ass way).

I can beat this in court right?

nope

 

[brunothepig]

In my opinion, you were an idiot. See that? You'd have a tough time suing me for that. Still, why disrespect them? There was no reason too, and he was simply doing his job, you were obviously doing something wrong. That's right, I'm 16 and I'm on the cops side.

 

[WaffleGod]

I find it funny. First you're stupid enough to insult a police officer and then you ask for advice on an internet forum? priceless.

 

[FluffyNeurosis]

He was in his car driving by when I called him an asshole. I kept walking...

So wait, you yelled "asshole" at a cop who was driving by? The constitution wont protect you because what you said falls under "fighting words" aka something you can yell at a person and reasonably expect to get your ass beat for. You deserved to get arrested.

 

[TheRundownRabbit]

I wouldnt count on you getting out of this scott-free, however it will probably be probation or community service for something light like that.....but what you did was wrong

 

[Hamster at Dawn]

Next time just kiss ass and chew bubblegum. I learnt in school that if you act really nice to the teachers all the time then they feel bad and let you off. I can only assume that the same thing works with the old bill. Being a dick is certainly more fun but it's not worth it when you can get fined. It might be a stupid law but it's a law nonetheless.

 

[vaderaider]

my dads a police officer (in england) and says that this whole thing is stupid, he has been called a wanker many times and not done anything against them.

 

[Straz]

Dumb arse.
Just no.

 

[Straz]

I wouldnt count on you getting out of this scott-free, however it will probably be probation or community service for something light like that.....but what you did was wrong

Bullfuck it was.
What he did was fucking stupid.

 

[beddo]

It doesn't matter if you think it's fair or not, unfortunately life isn't fair. You don't go around insulting police no matter how much they deserve it, this is something everyone seems to understand but you. Learn to swallow your pride and just be polite next time.

Why should he!?

Why should he?! Because that officer spent a whole 12 weeks learning to become a better person than him, (as well as learning to make funny sounds and get into shenanigans with Steve Guttenberg). That's why!

So he spent 12 weeks learning how to deny citizens of their Constitutional rights. He's utter scum and has failed in his duty to serve and protect. He should hand himself in for violating this poor 19 year old's right to freedom of speech and freedom from harassment for the authorities.

 

[beddo]

He was in his car driving by when I called him an asshole. I kept walking...

So wait, you yelled "asshole" at a cop who was driving by? The constitution wont protect you because what you said falls under "fighting words" aka something you can yell at a person and reasonably expect to get your ass beat for. You deserved to get arrested.

Actually it doesn't come under fighting words because it's not a comprehensive sentence. For example he could have been saying it to himself and not the officer.

The 'fighting words' argument is implied for much more extreme events not to cover minor dissent from regular citizens.

 

[beddo]

ahem? Seems like you started it going by that.

He pulled over.
Got out of his car.
And walked up to me.

I started nothing.

I said what I said And then kept walking.

I'm not sure exactly what you're planning to do, I highly recommend getting a lawyer. In future encounters NEVER admit to anything.

Your basic argument in court should be that being impolite to a police officer may not be decent behaviour but it's not a crime. There was no crowd so the event does not fall under disorderly conduct.

 

[beddo]

Next time just kiss ass and chew bubblegum. I learnt in school that if you act really nice to the teachers all the time then they feel bad and let you off. I can only assume that the same thing works with the old bill. Being a dick is certainly more fun but it's not worth it when you can get fined. It might be a stupid law but it's a law nonetheless.

This is the point though, it's not the law. This officer is abusing his power by using relatively vague legislation to pick on a kid.

 

[beddo]

I wouldnt count on you getting out of this scott-free, however it will probably be probation or community service for something light like that.....but what you did was wrong

IT WAS NEITHER WRONG NOR ILLEGAL! What he did was justified, he's allowed to make a protest against the authorities and he directed it against an officer.

It's not polite and he may receive a punishment for it but that's because the US ignores its founding principles.

 

[JordanMillward_1]

Actually, having looked it up, disorderly conduct (in New Jersey) actually includes swearing in public, as well as being insulting to the police. It is, however, as in most cases, up to the officer as to whether they decide to arrest you for it or not (given that it's a petty crime).

Hell, you could have been nice to the officer, and for swearing loudly on the phone in public, you would still be guilty of disorderly conduct, because what you did broke the law as written.

They have you red-handed, I'm afraid. Just accept it and learn from it.

IT WAS NEITHER WRONG NOR ILLEGAL!

It was wrong (because why did the police officer deserve being sworn at?), and it is illegal, so well done on that, because that entire statement was incorrect.

 

[JIst00]

snip snip
That's a fallacy, what people have convinced you. Technically the Conservatives believe in a smaller state and certainly smaller state spending. Without the cash the Civil service would not have been able to pursue their surveillance fantasies.

Trust me, Labour are the worst government in a LONG time. The only reason things have eased up of late is because they're short on cash and realise that their policies aren't very popular for an upcomming election.

It all comes down from Tony Blair who has a disdain for the legal system. Just look at what they've created:

-Indefinite detention without trial.
-Inquiries that are no longer independent.
-War in Afghanistan with no purpose.
-War in Iraq through clear lies.
-The murder of Dr. David Kelly.
-Terror law used for general policing.
-The first trial without a Jury in 800 years of English history.
-Effective banning of public photography.
-Direct influence on policing from private bodies.
-Monitoring of all web browsing and phone usage.
-Loss of privacy.
-Increased monitoring by massive increase in CCTV.
-Massive increases in the public sector.
-Huge Council Tax rises well above inflation.
-Terror laws used to watch families who may be lying to get their kids into certain schools.
-Depreciation of the Higher Education system.
-Massive NHS spend increases with significant Hospital closures.
-A benefits system that endlessly supports those who can't be bothered to work.
-Unsustainable Housing bubble propped up by stimulus measures.
-Failure to stop July 7th terror attacks despite the new laws.
-Murder of Jean Charles De Menezes.
-The BIGGEST economic collapse in decades through de-regulating the banking sector.

And just in case you believe the hype - Saving the banks.
We're all in debt to the tune of £800,000,000,000 to cover the gambling of the banks. They have destroyed capitalism and given massive bonuses to the banks using debt that WE have to pay back.

No one "convinced" me, just personal opinion, I think they are all as bad as each other, and doubt any of the others would have made any better choices, simple as that. It's just a complete lack of faith. As for the rest, I do agree with you on all the points u raised there, but i believe we're straying off topic here. and ive not slept yet so Im FAR too tired to get into British politics.

By the by, in the general elections ive been able to vote in Ive always voted Lib Dem, but ive grown up a little since then and paid more attention, so the up and coming one is going to be a difficult decision.