I Got Here First!

[Vanguard_Ex]

Maybe they don't want to see the 'great classics' of cinema. I, for one, couldn't care less about watching old films, but that doesn't make me some ignorant youth. I'm just living within my generation, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be scorned for not taking an interest in things that I was either too young to remember or were even around before me.
I think as the world becomes more modern, that is to say as technology advances at its alarming rate, society is moving along quicker than it ever has done. I mean, it was only 1980 that the first GB disk drive was created which was the size of a refridgerator and would set you back $40,000 (around £24,591). Now you could put that in your pocket for, what, £20 or less?

It could be said that society is changing TOO fast, that it's changing too quickly for it's 'skeleton' to adapt, and that at this rate, it will not be long before the whole thing snaps and collapses into a gelatinous blob of depravity.

...Or, you know. Stuff. =D

So you mean that because it's adapting so quickly, nothing really has time to become a bookmark in history?

That works too!

Cool ;D

 

[WlknCntrdiction]

I'm 20(going on 21)but those who are older shouldn't really look down on the younger generation(abit like what alot of older people in this thread are doing)otherwise you're just doing what your parents did to you, look down on you because they remember their days but you have your PS3s and Xboxes and Blu-Ray. All I'm saying really is don't be hypocritical, appreciate that you watched "the greatest movie of all time" fair enough, but you don't need to force the younger generation to watch them nor look down on or berate them for not having watched, read, etc something that was before their time.

There's nothing hypocritical about it. After getting older and finally deciding to watch these so-called "classics" myself, I found out the problem was simply that I was wrong then.

And for those who haven't seen The Maltese Falcon, you're missing out on one of the most bad-ass guys you'll ever see.. and he doesn't even know kung fu.

*Us playing on our Xbox 360, PS3 or Wii*

Parent: Hmm, what's that?
Us: Xbox
Parent: You mean that new games console that just came out? Why in my day we didn't have games consoles to keep us entertained, we went outside and played.
Us: Uh huh

*Us watching Transformers 2 or another movie that's not a "classic"*

Older Gen: What's that you're watching?
Young Gen: Transformers 2
Older Gen: Oh you mean that movie that's full of loopholes in the plot and is only about giant robots beating the crap out of each other? Why when I was younger movies had a plot that would suck you in and keep you guessing until the end.
Young Gen: Uh huh

Probably a very extreme example but I'm sure you get the idea. Yeah, not hypocritical in the slightest.

 

[Iampringles]

When most of us reach a certain age (I'm 21, for reference), it becomes difficult to interact with people whose age difference can be as little as 5 years. Mainly because the shared pool of references become smaller, or maybe because human society shifts and changes so fast that 5 years can mean "world away".

So this is for us older Escapists. The grumpy old men and women who were around long before a significant number of people, the people who talk about "G.I. Joe" and don't mean the movie, who unashamedly enjoy AD&D, and have memories of what it was like before the internet. This is for us.




Me, I'm a lover of entertainment and pop culture: I love movies, video games, books, comics, everything. A point I find greatly disappointing is how, with the advent of DVD and Blu-Ray, people should have no excuse to have not seen the great classics of cinema (everything from Casablanca to Pulp Fiction), but are sadly squandering this technology by instead choosing to watch Twilight or High School Musical for the hyperbollilionth time. Not to say the 90's and 80's didn't have crap films and TV, but they generally don't survive to become DVD classics. It gets sad how, despite the difference only being 5 years, I can't talk about a lot of stuff from the 90's without getting puzzled stares and raised eyebrows from my class, who are all in the 16-18 age range.

This just proves it: growing old is sad.

I think you'd find me and my friends easier to relate to, as we are alot more into 70's/80's culture than an average group of 14 year olds.

 

[Rolling Thunder]

Bah, in my day we had to go around the back to plug in the dial-up connection. In the snow! Ah, snow was better back then, in all it's 16-bit pixelated glory.

 

[KBKarma]

With regards everything else, it's mostly, in my opinion, nostalgia coupled with unhappiness that the teens of today haven't watched the awesome stuff we did when we were teens ourselves. Not really a condemnation. Just sadness.

I, for one, am quite sad, that my parents didn't show me the world they grew up in when I was a kid. I saw photos of my dad in a leather jacket, long hair, jeans and with a peace button in his shirt. I saw pictures of my parents on a huge rock festival (much like Woodstock, only in Hungary). I saw pictures of my mother in a yellow mini-skirt (by mini, I mean virtually non-existent) dancing to Beatles at a party. But they left me to my own devices when growing up, and only a good decade later did I get to know old-school rock music, cinema and the lifestyle of the rebellious 70's and 80's.

It's important to know where all this modern stuff originates from, be it music, technology, games or whatever. Being ignorant and living only in the 'now' is like spitting on the generation that carved out the lifestyle your are living now.

(Holy fuck, long post!)

I like how you quoted my last line there.

My parents, when my brother was three and I was five and my sister was seven, forced us in front of the TV to watch The Blues Brothers. We grew up in Botswana, so we were exposed to simange-mange and gumba (African variations on blues and jazz). When we returned to Ireland, I pretty quickly got into Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin and Uriah Heap, the last on the recommendation of my mom. The greatest gig I ever went to (out of a grand total of three) was an Aerosmith gig that my mom bought the tickets for personally (unfortunately, she herself couldn't go). I started listening to Pink Floyd because my dad thought they were a great band.

I spent most of my childhood watching old shows like The Clangers, Laurel and Hardy, the A-Team and Charlie Chaplin (when I wasn't trying to figure out what the hell was going on in one of several South African sitcoms that contained English, Afrikaans and Xhosa/Zulu lines).

Like you, I found most of these on my own. When I mentioned them to my parents, they encouraged me to listen/watch them. So I did. As a result, my musical taste, as well as my taste in movies, can be safely considered eclectic. On my mp3 player, the next seven tracks to play are by Nine Inch Nails, Sato Naoki, COOLON, Audioslave, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, and Queens of the Stone Age.

Spoiler: Quotes Qollapsed

Maybe they don't want to see the 'great classics' of cinema. I, for one, couldn't care less about watching old films, but that doesn't make me some ignorant youth. I'm just living within my generation, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be scorned for not taking an interest in things that I was either too young to remember or were even around before me.
I think as the world becomes more modern, that is to say as technology advances at its alarming rate, society is moving along quicker than it ever has done. I mean, it was only 1980 that the first GB disk drive was created which was the size of a refridgerator and would set you back $40,000 (around £24,591). Now you could put that in your pocket for, what, £20 or less?

It could be said that society is changing TOO fast, that it's changing too quickly for it's 'skeleton' to adapt, and that at this rate, it will not be long before the whole thing snaps and collapses into a gelatinous blob of depravity.

...Or, you know. Stuff. =D

So you mean that because it's adapting so quickly, nothing really has time to become a bookmark in history?

It's a fair point. I still remember when a computer with an 80GB hard drive was considered top of the line. And I remember when games came on multiple CDs (admittedly, I'd rather do without that last one).

Oh yeah, I wasn't trying to say he/she doesn't have a fair point there. Because it's true really, I think things are becoming old news much quicker. It's like a snowball effect; as technology advances, the advanced technology helps technology advance even quicker. Cosmic.

Yeah. However, the hardware advances are getting slowed down due to software incompatibility. Sure, we have quad-core 64-bit processors. But does anything make full use of them?

Even without that, though, things are changing fast. Digital distribution has suddenly appeared, and people make money by selling things that only exist in games.

I just try to keep up. So far, I'm doing alright, computer-wise. With regards to music, I'm none too fond of this new kind of R'n'B, or much rap, or ANY pop; I can take or leave TV (though there are some good shows on now); and movies are frankly depressing most of the time (though District 9 looks bloody fantastic).

YES. Sorry to look like I've ignored the rest of your post but that last sentence is like you took it straight from my mind. I really want to see that District 9 film, since I've just grown to expect mostly crap from the film industry. But yes, it seems like hardware really is leaving software in its dust a bit, and frankly digital distribution scares me a little bit, because I just know feel that it's going to be taken too far at some point.

Quite true. Looks great.

On-topic again, taking digital distribution too far? Howso? It's a great way to get games to people in countries with very few games stores. It also means (when the developers realise it) that the games can be sold for less, meaning more people will buy them. As well as that, it means that, in theory, the game can be published for a bloody long time. With many older games, they've gone out of production, and thus copies are hard to come by and, when they are came by (come by?) they're expensive. A prime example being Planescape Torment.

Unfortunately, it also leads to people using an online copy protection system, which requires you to be online to play (hello, Activision-Blizzard, EA), which means that they can't be played on the move, which is feasible when you think about how powerful modern gaming laptops are.

Ohhh. Yes, sorry, digital distribution of that sort is a very good thing. I was thinking more along the lines of the extortionate kind, most recently in Sims 3, wherein a lot of objects had to be bought with actual money before you could get them in-game. I just can't help but wonder if we'll see more of that kind of digital distributing. And yeah, the online copy protection systems can be a real pain in the ass, particularly, as you say, with laptops.

As an example of that type, I point you to GOG [http://www.gog.com], who distribute old games with the DRM removed for $10 or $5, including manual, and, on occasion, avatars, wallpapers, the soundtrack, and other things. However, I did not hear about that Sims 3 thing. And I thought EA had become fairly decent recently. Oh well, baby steps.

Worst of all is Activision-Blizzard's new idea (I'm thinking more Activision than Blizzard here...) of removing LAN support from Starcraft 2 and all other Blizzard games forever.

But I do feel upset that people actually liked the Jonas Brothers enough for them to make a movie.

Can't argue with that sentiment! Personally, I'm not bitter about them not knowing the old cartoons, movies, etc. We were like that too once. What I'm bitter about is the lack of inter-personal skills exhibited by people, [sup]he says, typing anonymously on the internet[/sup]. I work at a University, and every day I'll be talking to students, and invariably, I'll ask them to at least take out BOTH earbuds while we have a conversation. At lunch today, I saw three students all sitting together, and not one of them were talking to each other. They came in together, sat down togethewr, and immediately started paying attention to their phones while listening to their Ipods. Just one of those things that make me go "huh". One of my favorite things is bsing at the pub with my friends, and these guys couldn't care less. Although I have to admit, if one more person comes into my kitchen while I'm listening to punk and asks me if I'm listening to the oldies station, I might snap.

Y'old fogey! ... Just kidding. Honestly.

My brother is a real indie/punk kid, though the fact that he takes so long looking well-groomed is kind of funny. He's got a love of old rock as well, though.

Oh, and welcome to the Escapist, megasamus1!

 

[Dale Cooper]

When most of us reach a certain age (I'm 21, for reference), it becomes difficult to interact with people whose age difference can be as little as 5 years. Mainly because the shared pool of references become smaller, or maybe because human society shifts and changes so fast that 5 years can mean "world away".

So this is for us older Escapists. The grumpy old men and women who were around long before a significant number of people, the people who talk about "G.I. Joe" and don't mean the movie, who unashamedly enjoy AD&D, and have memories of what it was like before the internet. This is for us.




Me, I'm a lover of entertainment and pop culture: I love movies, video games, books, comics, everything. A point I find greatly disappointing is how, with the advent of DVD and Blu-Ray, people should have no excuse to have not seen the great classics of cinema (everything from Casablanca to Pulp Fiction), but are sadly squandering this technology by instead choosing to watch Twilight or High School Musical for the hyperbollilionth time. Not to say the 90's and 80's didn't have crap films and TV, but they generally don't survive to become DVD classics. It gets sad how, despite the difference only being 5 years, I can't talk about a lot of stuff from the 90's without getting puzzled stares and raised eyebrows from my class, who are all in the 16-18 age range.

This just proves it: growing old is sad.

I'm 26 and in education. Your post is true... it's pretty annoying.

Most people haven't even seen Ghostbusters!

 

[BeeRye]

I don't get something about this topic. OP says:

When most of us reach a certain age (I'm 21, for reference), it becomes difficult to interact with people whose age difference can be as little as 5 years.

To which I would have to ask did you associate with people in a 5 year age gap when your were 16? Or 15? How can you feel "old" as a 21 year old? Is it because you no longer associate with teenagers? Did you associate with primary school children when you were in secondary school?

If this topic was made by someone 30+ I could understand it, but as it is, made by a 21 year old it comes off as pretentious crap to me. I am 20 before anyone asks.

 

[high_castle]

I see no real reason for people to watch the classics. I hate old movies. I'll stick with my giant robots and explosions thank you very much.

Except a great many movies reference classics (I think it has to do with the lack of creativity in Hollywood right now) with certain dialogue or framing mechanisms. You're missing a lot of the movie if you don't get why something is done a certain way. Besides, old cinema is great. Casablanca is an oft-cited Greatest Movie Ever because it deserves the honor. It's a classic story, the themes timeless, the characters compelling. And it was watchable and truly emotional without needing special effects or even color. Don't judge something you haven't seen.

Well I might enjoy it if I cared about the why and wasn't such a graphics whore.

I really hate black&white movies/shows. It's physically irritating for me and it slaughters my immersion. I'm the kind of guy who doesn't give a damn about why something is done or a deeper meaning it may have, which is why I hate things like poetry.

I love movies like Transformers. Simple and fun. No deeper meaning, no hidden story. Just giant fucking robots beating the binary out of each other.

You cannot even imagine the things you're missing out on. Casablanca, Gone With the Wind, the original King Kong, The Twilight Zone... Or what about Bela Legosi as Dracula? Boris Karloff as Frankenstein's monster? These are archetypes which live on in Hollywood today. Sure there are decent monster flicks out now, but it was the old silent film Nosferatu which invented the idea of vampires dying in the sunlight. Now it's so prevalent as to be common knowledge.

Of course, I'm a chick who happens to like deeper meaning. And some poetry.

 

[eatenbyagrue]

I see no real reason for people to watch the classics. I hate old movies. I'll stick with my giant robots and explosions thank you very much.

Except a great many movies reference classics (I think it has to do with the lack of creativity in Hollywood right now) with certain dialogue or framing mechanisms. You're missing a lot of the movie if you don't get why something is done a certain way. Besides, old cinema is great. Casablanca is an oft-cited Greatest Movie Ever because it deserves the honor. It's a classic story, the themes timeless, the characters compelling. And it was watchable and truly emotional without needing special effects or even color. Don't judge something you haven't seen.

Well I might enjoy it if I cared about the why and wasn't such a graphics whore.

I really hate black&white movies/shows. It's physically irritating for me and it slaughters my immersion. I'm the kind of guy who doesn't give a damn about why something is done or a deeper meaning it may have, which is why I hate things like poetry.

I love movies like Transformers. Simple and fun. No deeper meaning, no hidden story. Just giant fucking robots beating the binary out of each other.

Wait, did you just say "physically irritating"?

Do black and white films cause you to break out in rashes or something? Did a black and white film touch you in an inappropriate place?

And this isn't even mentioning the games, which are mostly based off books and/or films (with those that aren't either being rip-offs of more popular games or being grossly under-bought). Or even TV, where all the innovative stuff is either cancelled, subjected to executive meddling [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main.ExecutiveMeddling], or past its prime.

Thank you for linking to TV Tropes, now you've doomed us all to days and weeks of endless tab-building.

 

[lwm3398]

I see no real reason for people to watch the classics. I hate old movies. I'll stick with my giant robots and explosions thank you very much.

Oh and all hip-hop/rap artists, hannah montanna and stephanie meyer can die in a fire.

To that fire, we will add:

The Jonas Brothers.
Demi Lovato.
Selena Gomez
The Disney retards that thought Hannah, Demi, Selena, And the Jonas Brothers were a good idea.

 

[eatenbyagrue]

I don't get something about this topic. OP says:

When most of us reach a certain age (I'm 21, for reference), it becomes difficult to interact with people whose age difference can be as little as 5 years.

To which I would have to ask did you associate with people in a 5 year age gap when your were 16? Or 15? How can you feel "old" as a 21 year old? Is it because you no longer associate with teenagers? Did you associate with primary school children when you were in secondary school?

If this topic was made by someone 30+ I could understand it, but as it is, made by a 21 year old it comes off as pretentious crap to me. I am 20 before anyone asks.

First point is fair enough: I have a lot of older cousins who would wax nostalgic about the Atari days, and I swore up and down I'd never do that. Guess that makes me a liar.

Second point, I do associate with teenagers in the 16-19 age group (University student), and the fact of the matter is, it gets difficult to discuss movies with them, because I can't count on them getting it when I say "It's kinda like Pulp Fiction" or "he looks like a younger Marlon Brando", which was my original (if vague) point.

 

[Playbahnosh]

With regards everything else, it's mostly, in my opinion, nostalgia coupled with unhappiness that the teens of today haven't watched the awesome stuff we did when we were teens ourselves. Not really a condemnation. Just sadness.

I, for one, am quite sad, that my parents didn't show me the world they grew up in when I was a kid. I saw photos of my dad in a leather jacket, long hair, jeans and with a peace button in his shirt. I saw pictures of my parents on a huge rock festival (much like Woodstock, only in Hungary). I saw pictures of my mother in a yellow mini-skirt (by mini, I mean virtually non-existent) dancing to Beatles at a party. But they left me to my own devices when growing up, and only a good decade later did I get to know old-school rock music, cinema and the lifestyle of the rebellious 70's and 80's.

It's important to know where all this modern stuff originates from, be it music, technology, games or whatever. Being ignorant and living only in the 'now' is like spitting on the generation that carved out the lifestyle your are living now.

(Holy fuck, long post!)

I like how you quoted my last line there.

My parents, when my brother was three and I was five and my sister was seven, forced us in front of the TV to watch The Blues Brothers. We grew up in Botswana, so we were exposed to simange-mange and gumba (African variations on blues and jazz). When we returned to Ireland, I pretty quickly got into Aerosmith, Led Zeppelin and Uriah Heap, the last on the recommendation of my mom. The greatest gig I ever went to (out of a grand total of three) was an Aerosmith gig that my mom bought the tickets for personally (unfortunately, she herself couldn't go). I started listening to Pink Floyd because my dad thought they were a great band.

I spent most of my childhood watching old shows like The Clangers, Laurel and Hardy, the A-Team and Charlie Chaplin (when I wasn't trying to figure out what the hell was going on in one of several South African sitcoms that contained English, Afrikaans and Xhosa/Zulu lines).

Like you, I found most of these on my own. When I mentioned them to my parents, they encouraged me to listen/watch them. So I did. As a result, my musical taste, as well as my taste in movies, can be safely considered eclectic. On my mp3 player, the next seven tracks to play are by Nine Inch Nails, Sato Naoki, COOLON, Audioslave, Aerosmith, Pink Floyd, and Queens of the Stone Age.

I'm an only child, and I never really knew what my parents were into when they were, uh, not my parents yet. I knew my mother liked The Beatles, but that's really all I knew. I'm not even sure what music my dad listened to. I know, I never asked, that's my fault, but still. Not having a cultural role-model was a mixed blessing. This way I got into many styles before I found my own. I started with techno when I was young, then some hip-hop, then I got into electronica, and finally metal. I stuck with the latter mostly, but broadened my palette since my rebellious teens. The next seven tracks on my mp3 player are by System of a Down, Nightwish, Dubmood, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Pendulum, Vangelis and Kansas. I know, weird, but I like them all.

 

[723N]

(everything from Casablanca to Pulp Fiction)

"Does he look like a *****?"I'm only a teen but i have to say that i'm glad my brother pestered me to watch pulp fiction.I watch old classics every now and then and that's one of my favs

WHAT AIN'T NO COUNTRY I EVER HEARD OF! Do they speak English in What?

ENGLISH ************! DO YOU SPEAK IT?

 

[KP Shadow]

Well, I'm one of those kids, and I actually prefer media from before my birth. When my peers are using AIM, I can be found chatting on the nearest IRC Client (Usually Darkmyst). When my peers are listening to the Jonas Brothers, Hannah Montana, Green day, and all those rap/hip-hop artists, I'm listening to The Beatles, Queen, Metallica, Peter Gabriel, Rick Astley (Yes, THAT Rick Astley), The Cars, and The Ramones (though I do dabble in Dragonforce and The Adventures of Duane and BrandO). When my peers are watching High School Musical, Twilight, and Star Wars: Episode III, I'm watching the Star Wars original Trilogy (Though to be fair, you can get me to watch almost any Star Wars movie and find it interesting. I just prefer the original trilogy). While my peers are playing crap like Madden '09 (Which from now on should be handled with DLC), Sonic '06, and foolishly saying that all reviewers should give those game perfect scores, I'm playing some of the truly good games that can be considered classics, such as Super Mario World, The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Super Mario All-Stars, etc. (Though if a modern game is sufficiently good enough, I'll play modern games. Halo 3 is pretty good. Not worth a perfect 40 from Famitsu, like many fans would think it is, but maybe a decent 30. 35, if you could give it an extra five points for Grifball), but this may be due to my Game Critic mentality from watching Zero Punctuation.

 

[Mikkaddo]

When most of us reach a certain age (I'm 21, for reference), it becomes difficult to interact with people whose age difference can be as little as 5 years. Mainly because the shared pool of references become smaller, or maybe because human society shifts and changes so fast that 5 years can mean "world away".

So this is for us older Escapists. The grumpy old men and women who were around long before a significant number of people, the people who talk about "G.I. Joe" and don't mean the movie, who unashamedly enjoy AD&D, and have memories of what it was like before the internet. This is for us.




Me, I'm a lover of entertainment and pop culture: I love movies, video games, books, comics, everything. A point I find greatly disappointing is how, with the advent of DVD and Blu-Ray, people should have no excuse to have not seen the great classics of cinema (everything from Casablanca to Pulp Fiction), but are sadly squandering this technology by instead choosing to watch Twilight or High School Musical for the hyperbollilionth time. Not to say the 90's and 80's didn't have crap films and TV, but they generally don't survive to become DVD classics. It gets sad how, despite the difference only being 5 years, I can't talk about a lot of stuff from the 90's without getting puzzled stares and raised eyebrows from my class, who are all in the 16-18 age range.

This just proves it: growing old is sad.

It gets even more sad literature wise. I can't talk to almost anyone younger then me these days about vampires because of how many have read and continue to read and gush about Twilight. Most of the girls I see reading it have never even HEARD of Bram Stocker . . .

Granted, I'm an Anne Rice Man, and even prefer her to Laurel K. Hammilton. But the idea that the name Lestat not only doesn't cause fits of sadistic/sympathetic laughter but causes confused looks? it makes a man want to CRY.

 

[BeeRye]

Spoiler

I don't get something about this topic. OP says:

When most of us reach a certain age (I'm 21, for reference), it becomes difficult to interact with people whose age difference can be as little as 5 years.

To which I would have to ask did you associate with people in a 5 year age gap when your were 16? Or 15? How can you feel "old" as a 21 year old? Is it because you no longer associate with teenagers? Did you associate with primary school children when you were in secondary school?

If this topic was made by someone 30+ I could understand it, but as it is, made by a 21 year old it comes off as pretentious crap to me. I am 20 before anyone asks.

First point is fair enough: I have a lot of older cousins who would wax nostalgic about the Atari days, and I swore up and down I'd never do that. Guess that makes me a liar.

Second point, I do associate with teenagers in the 16-19 age group (University student), and the fact of the matter is, it gets difficult to discuss movies with them, because I can't count on them getting it when I say "It's kinda like Pulp Fiction" or "he looks like a younger Marlon Brando", which was my original (if vague) point.

I do understand what you mean, I just think it sounds a little dramatic phrased as it is. I didn't mean to slam you in that post or anything. But as a 21 year old I don't think you can expect to have a huge common ground with 15/16 year olds. There is a big difference between a 21 year old and a 16 year old. However, when you are 35 and they are 30, the difference is unlikely to be as big.

Also you obviously enjoy classic movies and such. But these movies aren't of your generation, they are exactly what they are called: classic, and come from before your time. Really, you are enamoured with what was current to the generations above you. So the fact that you can't engage with a younger person about these things really isn't a generation or age gap issue, but an issue with individual people. You could meet 16 year olds who love the classics like those you mentioned, equally you could meet plenty of people your own age who couldn't care less about them.

 

[AvsJoe]

So this is for us older Escapists.

I too am 21 years of age and while I agree with your post, I do not consider myself an 'older' Escapist. Besides, I can talk freely about movies with anyone under 60 years of age because I've seen many of the classics from way back as well as the new crap they're putting out today.

 

[Hamster at Dawn]

Our generation has a short attention span. We like repetitive internet memes and Chuck Norris jokes. Deal with it.

 

[Rancid0ffspring]

personally I think I'm Old before my time or I was just born 10 years too late(I'm 26 now). I Listen to Old school punk. Pistols, Uk Subs, Peter & the testube babies etc... of course I also listen to some of the more current bands like Rancid & NOFX now my cousin is about 12/13 & is walking around with a mohawk. I was quite impressed so:

Me: 'Mohawk looks cool Adam. Into a bit of punk are you?'
Adam: 'Yeah'
Me: 'What bands do you listen to?'
Adam: 'MCR'
Me: 'Eh? I never heard of them'
Adam: 'you've never heard of My Chemical Romance?'

MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE? PUNK? WHAT THE F**K? I know this went a bit of topic but I swear kids nowadays just don't have a clue!