I guess I would like to get into Warhammer. What's it like in there?

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Circusfreak

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so Warhammer looks really fun. i have two friends who play it; one who plays 40k and he is pretty devoted to it and one who play a bit WH fantasy but he is thinking about switching to 40k.
however, my local game store only have events for WH fantasy but sometimes people still play 40k there.

if i would play 40k i would probably go Necrons. (because most others are just absurd variations Space marines.)
if i went Fantasy i would go Skaven (because they're rats and rats are cool.)

is the price and the effort even worth it?

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Daggothus

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It can be, but it really depends on your patience and which aspects of the game/hobby which appeal to you. Just don't try to buy everything at once. I would suggest just the "battle box" starter and learning with your friend's copy of the rules. That way you aren't in too deep if you change your mind later.
 

Soviet Heavy

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I'd say get one of the starter kits. I think the most recent one for 40k is Assault on Black Reach. It gives you a good selection of Space Marines and Orks to play with.

Space Marines and Necrons have the big advantage of their basic unit having a +3 save, meaning that on a roll to wound, they survive any dice roll that is 3 or higher.

Two Necron Lords with Orbs of resurrection will drive your opponent insane as he watches your three dead squads rise from the grave the next turn.

It is very pricey at the moment, but since Necrons have such a small unit list in comparison to everyone else, they are a bit easier to get price wise.

Also, much easier to paint.
 

fix-the-spade

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Circusfreak said:
is the price and the effort even worth it?
If there's a Games Workshop store near you, go in and talk to the staff. It's actually part of the interview process that they be friendly, I've never met one who wasn't.

People wise:
Warhammer is nerd-tastic, for the most part very friendly and open, always open to new people with dumb ideas.

Effort wise:
It's model making essentially. If you like doing that it's very satisfying, if not you might find it a bit frustrating. If you don't know, then try it, you might like it.


Cost wise:
Ebay is your friend. I only buy a few models a year from GW stores and some tools. Other stuff like infantry and bits for conversion I get off Ebay. For modelling materials like Green Stuff Sylmasta is the company to go to.
They're the people who make Green Stuff (and other similar products) and sell it for £10-ish for 90cm rather than the 20g sliver GW sell.

I treat it a lot like I treat my games, buying purely new is too expensive, so I shop around for the the smaller stuff and only buy the big things (tanks, books etc) new.
 

Littaly

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I've been on and off Warhammer since I was 11, and let me tell you, it's ridiculously overpriced, and not nearly worth as much as you pay for it. Still, it can be kind of fun, and even though it's a total scam, it can still be worth it x)

I'd say go for it, just be careful what you spend money on, especially when starting up. Treat it like gambling, don't bet more than you're willing to lose, i.e. don't buy stuff that you'll regret if it should turn out to not be your thing. And think through what models you buy too, if you want to play you need to build your army in a sort of specific way, look it up on the Internet ^^
 

henrycoll

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I used to play and collect a great deal...40K Blood Angels, Tyranids, even a small scale IG Armoured Company. I also dabbled in Inquisitor, specialist games range, for a year or so!

I can look back fondly on it now, but it was a very expensive hobby - even in my day! Can be rewarding though. I fidn the people I still know who play get very dragged into the Lore and story, which can help to make your army very much `your own` but equally can be like a black hole of time. Think of it as Mine Craft level addictive!!
 

Circusfreak

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Daggothus said:
It can be, but it really depends on your patience and which aspects of the game/hobby which appeal to you. Just don't try to buy everything at once. I would suggest just the "battle box" starter and learning with your friend's copy of the rules. That way you aren't in too deep if you change your mind later.
what is it you refer to as a "battle box"? i tried googeling it but there doesnt seem to be anything named that.
 

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Generic Gamer said:
Littaly said:
I've been on and off Warhammer since I was 11, and let me tell you, it's ridiculously overpriced, and not nearly worth as much as you pay for it. Still, it can be kind of fun, and even though it's a total scam, it can still be worth it x)
I wouldn't say it's a scam really, if you look at the pricing compared to other models of a similar quality or other wargames you actually get nicer models for a reasonable price. Compare the levels of detail on GW models to something like Warmachine and you can really see the difference.
I guess if you're really into miniature gaming, the price can be justified (I honestly wouldn't know, I'm only a casual player ^^). But if you're only just starting out, it's kind of hard to justify the price, at least that's what I think ^^
 

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The advice so far seems pretty sound. Start slow and easy building your army in stages and plan its growth. Don't just go out with £500 and go straight for a 5000 point army. It will be daunting to assemble and paint and you will give up.

I preferred Fanatsy and I have a 4000-ish Wood Elf army built over 5 years. I think that it is better than 40k as the future weapon warfare semms a little to fiddly with lines of sight etc. Just marching armies at each other manouevering various units jockeying for position into a huge melle of demons and archers trying to not friendly fire is the life for me.
 

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To be honest, I just play the video games and read the books. My town doesn't have a Games Workshop store, so finding tabletop gear can be pretty hard. The rules seem too intricate anyway, but that's just me.

If you do have a GW store, try getting the advice of a worker there. I visited a store once while vacationing overseas, and I was impressed with how friendly they were.
 

Soviet Heavy

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Circusfreak said:
Daggothus said:
It can be, but it really depends on your patience and which aspects of the game/hobby which appeal to you. Just don't try to buy everything at once. I would suggest just the "battle box" starter and learning with your friend's copy of the rules. That way you aren't in too deep if you change your mind later.
what is it you refer to as a "battle box"? i tried googeling it but there doesnt seem to be anything named that.
A battle box is a starter kit that comes with the rules to play a basic game, two starter armies, some codex fluff, and occasionally some paints and brushes to get you started.
Like I said, I believe that 5th Edition's battle box is Assault on Black Reach.
 

Daggothus

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My apologies. I was referring to the Necron Battleforce . It doesn't have all the required units, but it is a good value. The Assault on Blackreach would be better if you are not committed to Necrons, as it has a copy of the core rulebook.

Exact link to the GW store below.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1650004&_requestid=1879186
 

The New Guy

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I was a huge fan of 40K and collected Tau, but after about a year of them I became bored, so I switched to Chaos and I really enjoyed it, but again after a year I got bored of them.
I suppose what I mean is that the novelty of Warhammer does run out, so before you do charge into it, make sure you really will stick to it and not be like me and abandon your £300 army. A battleforce is a great way to start your army, as it has fun models to paint, and a decent start off point if you want to play.
 

DkLnBr

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Its a fun hobby, and my first 40k army was actually necrons too. they're pretty easy to paint and really forgiving on the table. The only really bad thing about warhammer is the cost. Your wallet is going to notice when you start.
 

Joleo

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i've been playing for a while and its all about finding a feel for what you like. i tend to base my army's on the sort of gaming im doing, so sitting back, using cover go shooty (Tau) mass armour Imperial Gaurd etc.
Assault on Black Reach is a good start but talk with the store staff, there always more than happy to let you try armys out (if they have a store one) or at least introduce you into the wonderful world/universe that you will spend the rest of your waking hours immersed in
 

Circusfreak

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Thanks for all the great advice. About these points; as far as ive understood, each unit has a point value that depends on its size and asskicking-factor. But is there any min/max degree of how much points you may have in an army? Im afraid that it will become a "the more you spend the more you win thing"
How does it get balanced?