I did not pretty much or sorta or even Kinda. Infact of the 3 people in the analogy, Me, him, and proverbial nazis. Us two are specificly discussing why others, not us, hate jews. Make him the opposite of Hitler. You see? Its not calling or implying or "pretty much" anything like you said it was.Feralcentaur said:
I hate to be the guy, but why the hate for COD?
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Because it's boring, yet it tries to hard not to be. It's the perfect example of what gaming shouldn't be - An imitation of a bad film. It cheapens gaming and the FPS genre as a whole. CoD 2 and to a lesser extent, 3, were pretty good.
Then CoD4 came out, which had some good points, but it still felt like a step away from gaming and a step towards "cinematic" crap. Ever since, it's been less about story, gameplay and entertainment and more about spectacle and z0mgz onlinez rewArdss!!1
Then CoD4 came out, which had some good points, but it still felt like a step away from gaming and a step towards "cinematic" crap. Ever since, it's been less about story, gameplay and entertainment and more about spectacle and z0mgz onlinez rewArdss!!1
Single player:
~Horrendous plot.
~Fairly bad dialog.
~Bland game play
~Terrible graphic effects in certain areas.
~Shit happening that simply does not make sense.
Multiplayer:
~Has given every other FPS an excuse to make a terrible campaign and throw all their resources into trying to copy COD multiplayer, resulting in a huge flood of really shitty games.
Of course, I apparently just hate it because it's popular, so I guess I don't care about that stuff.
~Horrendous plot.
~Fairly bad dialog.
~Bland game play
~Terrible graphic effects in certain areas.
~Shit happening that simply does not make sense.
Multiplayer:
~Has given every other FPS an excuse to make a terrible campaign and throw all their resources into trying to copy COD multiplayer, resulting in a huge flood of really shitty games.
Of course, I apparently just hate it because it's popular, so I guess I don't care about that stuff.
...Ahhh. Well, I feel stupid now... Wait, wouldn't mean you're saying the people who hate COD are the anti-semetics making them nazi like?bombadilillo said:
Because they're churning out the same game, over and over.
I like Battlefield, just because they have vehicles, so you can approach a problem from many different angles. Call of Duty is pretty damned dull.
I like Battlefield, just because they have vehicles, so you can approach a problem from many different angles. Call of Duty is pretty damned dull.
Maybe I was brought up on those games that took 40+ hours just to get to the final boss, but a five-hour story mode does NOT cut the mustard with me.
Online multiplayer? No thanks. If I want to play against people, I'll invite some friends over, pop some popcorn and crack open a few beers.
Online multiplayer? No thanks. If I want to play against people, I'll invite some friends over, pop some popcorn and crack open a few beers.
It's just a terribly made game, in my eyes.
My issues stem from these:
1) Programming issues. I've been shot and killed through more than six feet of concrete, by a guy using an smg. Physically not possible, no matter the caliber of the smg, no matter whan perk is on, I've tried.
2) While Grenades are programmed to explode in all directions, if there's a tiny little ledge that is two inches above where your Semtex grenade sticks, the guy basically leaning over that edge like he's trying to look down the buildings shirt an ogle it's goodies will not take damage from the explosion because, evidently, an inch thick wooden wall is indestructible.
3) The RC-XD only explodes outwards, despite being nothing more than a brick of Semtex on wheels, meaning that if you're standing right on-top of enough explosive material to convert the entirety of your body mass into a fine red mist, you'll be completely unharmed.
4) While they work about 6 times out of 10, many of the perks are untrustworthy and their limitations are poorly defined. Such as me firing at a stack of crates roughly two feet thick and killing the guy crouching behind them, yet not being able to fire through the inch thick wooden walls of a building in the same map, despite the embarrassing amount of rounds I'd just fired into the bloody thing. OR the fact that I've shot-and-killed several dozen players that had appeared on my radar, despite the fact that they were quite clearly using the Ghost perk.
All in all, it's terribly made, and the designers should be ashamed of themselves for NOT NOTICING those, quite blatantly obvious, flaws in Beta testing.
My issues stem from these:
1) Programming issues. I've been shot and killed through more than six feet of concrete, by a guy using an smg. Physically not possible, no matter the caliber of the smg, no matter whan perk is on, I've tried.
2) While Grenades are programmed to explode in all directions, if there's a tiny little ledge that is two inches above where your Semtex grenade sticks, the guy basically leaning over that edge like he's trying to look down the buildings shirt an ogle it's goodies will not take damage from the explosion because, evidently, an inch thick wooden wall is indestructible.
3) The RC-XD only explodes outwards, despite being nothing more than a brick of Semtex on wheels, meaning that if you're standing right on-top of enough explosive material to convert the entirety of your body mass into a fine red mist, you'll be completely unharmed.
4) While they work about 6 times out of 10, many of the perks are untrustworthy and their limitations are poorly defined. Such as me firing at a stack of crates roughly two feet thick and killing the guy crouching behind them, yet not being able to fire through the inch thick wooden walls of a building in the same map, despite the embarrassing amount of rounds I'd just fired into the bloody thing. OR the fact that I've shot-and-killed several dozen players that had appeared on my radar, despite the fact that they were quite clearly using the Ghost perk.
All in all, it's terribly made, and the designers should be ashamed of themselves for NOT NOTICING those, quite blatantly obvious, flaws in Beta testing.
Because it's just a cash cow? Seriously, any CoD-game since 4 was the same with slightly more refined multiplayer. It's called a patch, IW & Treyarch!
Seriously. Someone charging $60 for a series that's released in the same pattern as FIFA-games, with slightly more balanced multiplayer and a couple of more maps can't be doing it for anything but cash.
And you know, when the only difference are the maps, they still release 15 dollar map packs. That's just... wrong.
Seriously. Someone charging $60 for a series that's released in the same pattern as FIFA-games, with slightly more balanced multiplayer and a couple of more maps can't be doing it for anything but cash.
And you know, when the only difference are the maps, they still release 15 dollar map packs. That's just... wrong.
I think a lot of the flack seems to stem from multiplayer. First person shooters will always be the same gameplay wise, there isn't much you can do aside from adding vehicles, different weapons, etc.
That, and the fact that a lot of FPSs like to take place in the middle of wars. If we're going fro the past, and since just about all developers are based in the US, we're always going to be playing the US fighting the evil Nazi's and winning. If it's in the present, it's always going to be either Russians, or the middle East. If it's in the future, it's aliens. Or Koreans.
That, and the fact that a lot of FPSs like to take place in the middle of wars. If we're going fro the past, and since just about all developers are based in the US, we're always going to be playing the US fighting the evil Nazi's and winning. If it's in the present, it's always going to be either Russians, or the middle East. If it's in the future, it's aliens. Or Koreans.
I hate flame wars as much as the next not-retarded gamer, but if you really want to get technical for a few seconds, CoD copied MoH. MoH came out on the PS1 in '99. The first CoD game came out in '03. This is why I find your statement redundant (No offence intended).arc1991 said:
In my experience, it's because of a very small demographic that play CoD....those god damn twelve year olds who camp the fuck out of every damn map, destroy you every match by noob tubing you to death and instantly break their microphones when they start shrieking a MASSIVE chain of curse words at you when you break their kill streak and because of this TINY demograohic, everyone who hates CoD assumes the whole CoD playing community is one of them.
Now don't get me wrong I do enjoy myself a gd bit of CoD, but any one of my friends will say they don't like CoD due to the ppl who obsess over it.....like the players I just described above. You've all probably got different reasons for why so much hate is directed towards CoD, but this is mine.
Now don't get me wrong I do enjoy myself a gd bit of CoD, but any one of my friends will say they don't like CoD due to the ppl who obsess over it.....like the players I just described above. You've all probably got different reasons for why so much hate is directed towards CoD, but this is mine.
Fixed that again, Cod1 and 2 were the kinda the same, but you could tell the difference, they felt like different games,Revrant said:
same With Cod3
But because of the popularity of MW, they are not changing from that formula, sure all COD's have been slightly similar, but after Cod 4 they are just clones of each other.
Plus the first 4 had story and meaning.
It's mainly due to the games becoming obvious, pumped out cash-grabs, rather than well-designed games and if they continue in this fashion they will jump the shark harder than Activision's other ex-cash cows, Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and Guitar Hero.
A lot of the haters of COD come from the following groups:
Group A: Still thinks the campaign is the primary selling point of a new Call of Duty game, and is consequently disappointed.
Group B: Sucks at competitive FPS games.
Group C: Has no interest in FPS games and hops on the hate bandwagon for the hell of it.
Group D: Hates Activision's business model, the hating of which is completely valid, but then associates that hate with the game itself.
Group E: Prefers another FPS to Call of Duty, a preference accompanied by the desire to shit on Call of Duty.
Group A: Still thinks the campaign is the primary selling point of a new Call of Duty game, and is consequently disappointed.
Group B: Sucks at competitive FPS games.
Group C: Has no interest in FPS games and hops on the hate bandwagon for the hell of it.
Group D: Hates Activision's business model, the hating of which is completely valid, but then associates that hate with the game itself.
Group E: Prefers another FPS to Call of Duty, a preference accompanied by the desire to shit on Call of Duty.
really, you are saying yourself you are not contributing to the topic, well done.4RM3D said:
also cash cow? its the same price as every other game that comes out. (DLC is optional by the way, so it doesnt count towards your argument (i dont even buy the DLC anymore)).
furthermore, you hate it because its more multi player than single player? big deal, thats a reason to simply not play it rather than hate it. lastly, 'a toilet break' how fucking long does it take you to go to the toilet???, please stop exaggerating, its not smart, and doesnt help your argument.
I don't know, to be quite honest. I personally think they're quite competent and have a better standard of execution than the majority of current console FPSs, gameplay wise. Mind you, I'm judging it from a different perspective than a lot of other people; I don't like FPS games on the whole, because they're just not my thing, so knowing there's an FPS series out there that I actually find playable and that can satisfy my shooty action movie urges for the year is pretty much all I expect from it, and it delivers that. And since I have no interest in multiplayer I'm completely ignorant of all the complaints regarding balance issues.
Sure, the games are flawed and I have issues with them, but I can be critical of a game and aware of its problems and still enjoy a game overall. If I hated every game that I saw an issue or flaw in, I wouldn't be a gamer, because I'd hate everything. I mean, for example, Black Ops story was shit, but it was also unintentionally hilarious, which kept me entertained. I laughed my ass off because the twist was so obvious and comically played out.
So, no, I don't think they're excellent games, or even necessarily good (CoD3 nearly killed my interest in shooters altogether), but I certainly don't think they're worth hating or raging over the way people do.
Sure, the games are flawed and I have issues with them, but I can be critical of a game and aware of its problems and still enjoy a game overall. If I hated every game that I saw an issue or flaw in, I wouldn't be a gamer, because I'd hate everything. I mean, for example, Black Ops story was shit, but it was also unintentionally hilarious, which kept me entertained. I laughed my ass off because the twist was so obvious and comically played out.
So, no, I don't think they're excellent games, or even necessarily good (CoD3 nearly killed my interest in shooters altogether), but I certainly don't think they're worth hating or raging over the way people do.
I specifically don't like it because it seems too fast paced for me, also, no "realistic" game should allow no scoping and quick scoping. I rather have to use real military tactics in my FPS's instead of ones that originated in games like Counter Strike. But, unfortunately for me, most FPS's have something you can abuse that breaks the game >.<
I don't necessarily hate it, but I am more of a fan towards Halo. I always compare CoD to Halo and CoD is always lacking at something. I'm just saying that CoD doesn't have as much time or effort put into it. But I will not blame the game studio for an under polished game when its publisher Activision gives them barely any time to make a game. You see there are 2 studios making CoD for Acivision, giving each studio 2 years to make a game. With games like Halo, they get 3 to 4 years on a game plus extra funding to update their servers and keep free content coming, the opposite of the CoD elite service being introduced. And just one more thing, I don't like CoD as much because a couple bullets kill you, when in Halo (being less realisic) you can take more bullets and not be completely screwed over the second you see the enemy. I think that just adds to the fun portion, while in CoD they want it to be more realistic while not focusing on the fun mechanics of the game.