I completely disagree with this as you can clearly see they have added new features in every cod game so far, Take World at War it added zombies and Co-Op campaign, Modern Warfare 2 added Spec-Ops and Black Ops added Wager match and CoD points in which you use to buy everything you use. although these are added features to the game witch mostly do nothing for multiplayer(and are kinda an after thought) they have bee adding new features to the same formula that works but people just seem to look past these.arc1991 said:
I hate to be the guy, but why the hate for COD?
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I don't necessarily hate CoD (though I do have an immense hate for the money grubbing Activision). But I do feel the series has gone far past it's expiration date. CoD4 really revamped things then they came out with MW2 (excluding WaW, that was, imo, a step back to the traditional style) and that kind of sucked (at least according to the vox populi. Personally, excluding the hackers and the glitches, the unbalancing of the game was actually somewhat perversely fun). Now you have Black Ops. And when it first came out, it was a lot of fun. But they're going the route of "Balance makes perfect" and in some regard. Treyarch in this case did make the perfectly balanced games. Though it didn't start out like that, they came out with patches remarkably fast and invariably made every gun exactly the same and took the challange our of the game. Or, vice versa, made it too challenging. It's no fun now. And I can tell that the next game won't be any fun either. The way activision is going with it's games, I feel that they are just pushing this a bit too far and forcing too much on their game makers.
Dr. Jones you really don't see the whole "He already gave his argument and you just shot it down and said no you're wrong because I know more than you" counter argument. Now i suggest you stop before you troll up all of the escapist.Dr Jones said:
I think a lot of hate comes from old fans of the series who dislike changes made in each installment, the mechanics they liked are taken away and they struggle to adapt. Also, more extensive advertising coupled with a growing playerbase means more attention, negative or otherwise.
The biggest problem is, the majority of players want to have their cake and eat it too, as in they want the game to improve and expand, but don't want anything about the game to change.
The biggest problem is, the majority of players want to have their cake and eat it too, as in they want the game to improve and expand, but don't want anything about the game to change.
I am sure various reasons depending on the person of course... Me I don't like the game cause I didn't like how it played, I don't hate it just not my thing is all but to each their own.Now what I do hate is how companies seems to want to just focus on these style of games not saying all do of course and kind of floods the market with them
I've played every Infinity Ward COD Game, Black Ops and Modern Warfare 2. I plan to buy Modern Warfare 3.
So, who cares that other people don't like it? More for me.
So, who cares that other people don't like it? More for me.
I find the multiplayer insufferable, and the singleplayer is usually so short it barely merits a notice sign. Doesn't help that some of the fans are absolute twats.
I liked MW2. And I'm not spending any more money on the franchise till Infinity Ward gets back in the driver's seat.
i actually started hating the series after i got my first prestige in black ops. i felt no sense of accomplishment and now i start leveling all over.
but now, i'm trying to make my little pony cutie marks using the playercard editor thing and i'm obsessively playing multiplayer again to get COD points!
so i guess the reason people hate the COD series is because they don't watch my little pony. quite simple really, a sound and irrefutable conclusion.
but now, i'm trying to make my little pony cutie marks using the playercard editor thing and i'm obsessively playing multiplayer again to get COD points!
so i guess the reason people hate the COD series is because they don't watch my little pony. quite simple really, a sound and irrefutable conclusion.
I don't dislike it... if fact, I really enjoy to play it every once in a while. I just tend to side with the "haters" of the game, because I think it's really overrated. It's a good game, but now they are starting to blend together. And not to mention there are more games out now that deserve the attention, in my opinion, more than CoD. I'm glad all the hype is starting to wind down for it. Like I said, I really enjoy the game... but I guess I subconsciously try not to, to counterbalance all its popularity.
I'm getting ready for work and can't read through all the pages, but from what I see as the average gamer and internet user, the #1 problem would have to be: the fanbase.Dr Jones said:
Yes, that's the stem of the problem, almost everything else comes from there. But that's BECAUSE the game is good and attracts so many fans. The screechy pre-teens included, that seem to cop a lot of hate these days (can't say myself, haven't played much multiplayer except with my friends, whom many are dads or married).
The other problem is the balance. Which sucks, yes, but would hardly be an issue if it weren't for the fanbase to *notice* it. There are many more games out there with worse balance, but don't get knocked on for it because there aren't enough fans to hate it.
The final one I see, which happens to be because I watch a lot of clips about firearms on youtube, is that the players seem to think CoD is somehow "realistic", and therefore can learn about weapons from playing it, much to the dismay to "real steel" enthusiasts who have to put up with wild inaccuracies put up by the kids who play it, thinking they are suddenly very smart.
Like I said, they all stem from the large fanbase. Take it as you will. My theory attributes it to why so many people hate Metallica (well, in Australia anyways) back in the day.
I hate Activision for it's business practice of making a game every year with little to no inovation to capitalize on a game's popularity. The millions of people buying CoD tells developers of other games "This is what we want" so they make their games more like CoD in whatever way they can.
Call of Duty post CoD4 is a result of this business practice. In fact, Activision's "vision" of Call of Duty pre CoD4 shows you a prefect example of what I'm talking about. They didn't want to let Infinity Ward make a Modern Warfare game because WWII games were making so much money. In their attempt to capitalize on the popularity of Call of Duty: Finest Hour, they were willing to make WWII FPS over and over again.
And so history repeats itself. Where WWII shooters in the past became stagnate and people grew tired of the Medal of Honor series, people now begin to grow tired of Call of Duty and soon there will probably be a new shooter to come out to overtake the throne for most popular and it too will become stagnate and boring. I'm not sure if Halo fits in this equation or not since non-Xbox/PC gamers never played it anyway.
So to answer the question directly, I don't hate CoD. I hate Activision. My have for Activision translates to every game released by them I feel is overrated/over hyped/not good. I liked Call of Duty 2 and 4 alright, but just like anyone would not like a game they thought wasn't good, I thought all of Treyarch's Call of Dutys and Modern Warfare 2 were boring and all around not very good. Prototype was also unbelievabley bad. It's just people's preference. Just like how you don't ask "Why all the hate for Xbox 360/PS3"
Call of Duty post CoD4 is a result of this business practice. In fact, Activision's "vision" of Call of Duty pre CoD4 shows you a prefect example of what I'm talking about. They didn't want to let Infinity Ward make a Modern Warfare game because WWII games were making so much money. In their attempt to capitalize on the popularity of Call of Duty: Finest Hour, they were willing to make WWII FPS over and over again.
And so history repeats itself. Where WWII shooters in the past became stagnate and people grew tired of the Medal of Honor series, people now begin to grow tired of Call of Duty and soon there will probably be a new shooter to come out to overtake the throne for most popular and it too will become stagnate and boring. I'm not sure if Halo fits in this equation or not since non-Xbox/PC gamers never played it anyway.
So to answer the question directly, I don't hate CoD. I hate Activision. My have for Activision translates to every game released by them I feel is overrated/over hyped/not good. I liked Call of Duty 2 and 4 alright, but just like anyone would not like a game they thought wasn't good, I thought all of Treyarch's Call of Dutys and Modern Warfare 2 were boring and all around not very good. Prototype was also unbelievabley bad. It's just people's preference. Just like how you don't ask "Why all the hate for Xbox 360/PS3"
I've seen the multiplayer of at least 3 of them (including MW3 in a trailer), and it's ALWAYS the same: look down the barrel of a big gun, watch the camera jerk, bullets fly out at your target, he dies in a few seconds, and a number around 100 popping up over his head.Dr Jones said:
I like the game, but I hate the people. I swear there is a legion of cheap horrible people that I pkay against daily. Thats my reason, and the best.
As for it being unorigional and stuff...well, I dont believe people who say they want new stuff.
As for it being unorigional and stuff...well, I dont believe people who say they want new stuff.
Popularity earns resentment. I do what I can to ignore the popularity of something and judge it by its actual merit. Still don't like Glee, though. Just a bunch of stupid kids singing.
The problem I've had with Call of Duty was when World at War came out. I really liked Modern Warfare, but WaW felt stale. By the time Modern Warfare 2 came out, CoD's multiplayer didn't feel fresh to me anymore. And Modern Warfare 2's campaign was straight junk. I kind of like Black Ops, just not enough to commit to its multiplayer over Halo.
The problem I've had with Call of Duty was when World at War came out. I really liked Modern Warfare, but WaW felt stale. By the time Modern Warfare 2 came out, CoD's multiplayer didn't feel fresh to me anymore. And Modern Warfare 2's campaign was straight junk. I kind of like Black Ops, just not enough to commit to its multiplayer over Halo.