I hate to be the guy, but why the hate for COD?

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I dislike the recent CoD series for failing to innovate or push the envelope. CoD4: MW tried to push things by making the effects of nuclear devestation personal, filling the gaping hole of a modern shooter when we were mostly getting handed scifi and WW2 shooters, and introducing moderate elements of stealth and destruction into a multiplayer setting. While stealth and destruction were around before, this was kinda the first to give you the chance to hide somewhat in the open or to put bullets through walls.

And then CoD went backwards.

Now I like how CoD is handling zombies now. Nazi zombies was a great way to pal around with friends... at least in WaW. I'm interested in trying the new Romero directed bit too. But BOps' Nazi zombies can piss off. I tried to pick up the rifle to conserve ammo with head shots, and the game actually blurs the iron sights to make then hard to aim at. You can check this yourself; it's not even well hidden since the blur spot is larger than the iron ring itself. This means the game devs have gone out of their way to artificially increase the difficulty of a certain play style rather than say... make the damn game work with it. Just have their heads loll a bit. Then the zombies could have a logical reason to be hard to head shot rather than a lazy and stupid one. But that would require work, now, wouldn't it?

Finally, I reject the notion that h they've been continuously upgrading because frankly BOps looks close to and if not worse than MW1, and doesn't include puncturable walls. This isn't moving forward or even staying in the same spot. It's moving backward.

But for all this I only dislike the games. What angers me is that CoD is stupidly profitable anyway. Lazy, sloppy work should not be rewarded but it is. And there are so many shooters than deserve a shot at being the best. In Battlefield: Bad Company 2, damn near everything can be destroyed. They decided to make their niche the destruction engine and it works for them. There really is nothing like crushing your foes with a collapsing building. And vehicles are a staple of the game rather than a reward, which means the methods for handling them are also common.
Or MAG which, while honestly not that great of a shooter in terms of guns (it kind of feels like paintball), can fit insane numbers of players into a single match. In some cases 128 people on four teams. And tactics really do help here, unlikely CoD's freshest multiplayer.

Frankly, my only complaint is that a lot of devs are playing safe instead of trying to show us what games can do. And while everyone shares the chain they're hancuffed to, CoD is a big part of the rock holding them back.

Now someone go get me some fish and chips. All this cod talk has gotten me hungry.
 

mikev7.0

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Dr Jones said:
Title pretty much says it all... Why is COD so incredibly hated (well among people who probably would consider themselves "hardcore gamers")? I mean, i aint no fan of COD, i've tried every single game, but i just feel that by Black Ops, it's kind of just the same..
But my hate is no way near the amounts that pretty much every gaming forum has for COD, and i never really understood it..

So yeah.. Why the immense hate for one of the best selling videogame franchises ever?
For me, I need a little Fantasic in my Fantasy y'know? "Real" war games are mostly boring so I need something like Wolfenstein or Borderlands or yeah, Fallout or Mass Effect to get my FPS on. CoD has the same problem all "real" war games have with me. Too realistic. What? No Ninjas, Pirates, Wizards, Huge *^&%in' Robots or Superheroes? = Pass.

I mean no offense to the series, to sell so well surely they're doing something most gamers like.

Just not this gamer....
 

ACman

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Because of the lack of appropriate pacing, the ludicrous story (After Modern Warfare 1), the setting in stone of the cover based, iron sight aiming, health regenerating, shooting gallery memory test mechanic that seems to be pervasive in FPS at the moment.

I liked MW1. It was different enough from everything else to be interesting, but it did wear itself out pretty quickly.

FPS should be about exploration, or cool looking monsters, and set pieces. Not stopping for shooting gallery 52, moving on, then shooting gallery 53, all the while viewing everything through night vision goggles and the splatter of your own blood that's all over the screen.

Am i the only one to have my immersion broken by being shot every time I move forward five feet?

But then I don't play online multiplayer so maybe I'm missing the point.
 

SemiHumanTarget

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I play a lot of Black Ops, and played MW2 before it, and while I always enjoyed myself and thought the multiplayer was well-designed and implemented, there were and still are definite balance issues which, when repeated for three, soon-to-be four games, time and time again, it starts to grate.

There are two other reasons I think people hate on the series: It's not a very cerebral experience, and I think there tends to be an attitude that people want a little brains with their games these days. If you look at the old Battlefield games, they were fast paced but there was a lot of strategic thinking going on within the game. The new Bad Company games seek to streamline things with smaller maps, smaller teams and overlap between roles, but there's still strategy and cooperation going on. When you look at all the top selling games, I think it's easy to equate twitch gameplay with casual players and in hardcore communities, the casual players automatically draw ire.

The other reason I think is that people see the developers just doing the same game again and again and, while it's definitely good, they wish those developers would use their considerable talent to make something different; to give us a different experience.
 

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for me its annoying how i personally dont like cod(anymore). But all my friends want to play it. We all used to love halo and played it together.
 

Jandau

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I can only speak for myself, but I dislike the series because every time I played it, I was bored senseless. I played it back when it was one of the tons of generic WW2 shooters and it was dull and bland. Then I tried it again with Modern Warfare 2 and found a single player campaign that felt like it was designed by a 12-year old with severe ADD. I don't care about its popularity, all I know is that whenever I play CoD, I don't have any fun and the whole thing feels like poop. Hence, my dislike.
 

Ice Car

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It doesn't add much to each new game, and it's made annually. Not to make the game better, but to make MONEY. It is a veritable cash cow. Other games try to copy Call of Duty's formula too much too, which is annoying.
 

Cyberjester

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arc1991 said:
Completely agree. Other games need to try new things instead of copying Cod (Looking at you Medal Of Honour)
Oh, so CoD never copied anyone? lolol. Where've you been living?

The game's been a Halo clone since 4, except even worse single player and boring multi player. Halo itself was more of a Q3/UT clone, except a bad one. Yes, I'm a PC gamer who thinks that Q3 and UT were exceptional death fests, like Serious Sam. I'm also one of those strange people who thinks Brink is a "21st century" update of those games and thus totally freaking awesome.

@OP
If it's any consolation, Brink is getting more hate than CoD ever will. Which is kinda funny, CoD can't even suck well. :p
 

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I_am_a_Spoon said:
People like to think they're unique by boycotting every bandwagon that comes along.
nail on the head there sir or madame! Is it irony that by boycotting every bandwagon they themselves are on the boycotting bandwagon? That may be a paradox!
 

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A god portion of the fanbase feels that unless they defend their internet honor the must kill themselves, It's little more than an expansion pack every time a new one comes out now, and they're adding a subscription thing. I think that I mostly dislike what it's become, which is a big damn bag of money and nothing more. I still play it because it can be fun, so I guess I have a problem with Activision more than CoD. But the main problem for me is that a lot of the issues that where in CoD4 are still present after several iterations, possibly because it's cut and paste every time.
 

Michael Logan

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The singelplayer is good, its the multiplayer that I dont like, I guess im more into cooperative and teambased games like battlefield.
 

The_Splatterer

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I Don't particularly enjoy CoD anymore. I Played them all, but mostly i played MW2 to death. I played it so much, that when i got black ops i got bored quickly. It's just more of the same, released every year and sure to make millions. Look at Bungie and Halo (one example), Each game has stuck to the core gameplay and style, but each game has tried to change it up a bit. Call of Duty seems to just put in additions and change insignificant things so in the long run each game feels the same. It has a two year development cycle, it just seems rushed so that they can get their lots of money each year.
 

InsipidMadness

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http://kotaku.com/5806775/how-call-of-duty-elite-works-and-why-you-might-be-paying-for-it

Because it's run by Activision.
 

beeejay

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In short,
Incomprehensible story
Badly paced gameplay
Overrated
Overpublicised by main stream media
Social stigmas that are growing around it that aren't ironic or funny
Badly balanced multiplayer (by which I mean look at peoples most killed by stats on BlOps, Famas AK74u Galil without fail)
The vocal minorities in the community
Overpriced DLC
Activision
Annual updates sold at full price
Bobby Kotick is an idiot
 

Rainforce

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beeejay said:
In short,
Incomprehensible story
Badly paced gameplay
Overrated
Overpublicised by main stream media
Social stigmas that are growing around it that aren't ironic or funny
Badly balanced multiplayer (by which I mean look at peoples most killed by stats on BlOps, Famas AK74u Galil without fail)
The vocal minorities in the community
Overpriced DLC
Activision
Annual updates sold at full price
Bobby Kotick is an idiot
This, plus I personally dislike military shooters.
[standard insanely aggressive anti-military perspective talk here] XD