I have had it with Valve
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Krylock said:
Due, okay!
For me it's pretty clear that Valve is holding back "Half-life 3"(Yup, not episode 3) because silence is the way to go to build up hype for a sequal. Also game engines requires a lot of time to build so they probably wont show anything before they are deep in the games actuall development.
I have yet to see a Valve franchise i dont like and as im a Mac gamer a lot if this stuff is new to me thanks to Steam now being cross platform =D
I can see why some people can be annoyed at the length of time between releases but until then you can have the half assed mediocre annual releases from other developers instead of waiting for a game with a bit more time and effort put into it.
You can like or hate the games all you want but you cant say that Valve is a lazy company - personally i think Steam is the best thing to happen to PC Gaming in a long time as it provides a unified community with free updates, a back up of your game and its save file as well as adding achievements all for a pretty decent price.
I bought Arkham Asylum on Steam over christmas there for £3.50 (gone back up to £7.50 now) and that games only a year old so im pretty happy with that.
I can see why some people can be annoyed at the length of time between releases but until then you can have the half assed mediocre annual releases from other developers instead of waiting for a game with a bit more time and effort put into it.
You can like or hate the games all you want but you cant say that Valve is a lazy company - personally i think Steam is the best thing to happen to PC Gaming in a long time as it provides a unified community with free updates, a back up of your game and its save file as well as adding achievements all for a pretty decent price.
I bought Arkham Asylum on Steam over christmas there for £3.50 (gone back up to £7.50 now) and that games only a year old so im pretty happy with that.
Swny Nerdgasm said:
I believe it derives from this. Although, i could be wrong. I mean, this is bacon we're talking about here.
Meh, I've never been too much of a PC gamer, so Valve games aren't my favorite, but I still do enjoy them. Good things take time (although with Activision pumping out CoD once a year a lot of people will disagree with me) so maybe Valve will pull a GT5 with HL3.
Just don't start pulling CoD with me, please, I have enough fanboys bragging about their modern pew-pews...
Just don't start pulling CoD with me, please, I have enough fanboys bragging about their modern pew-pews...
This but no 'That is all.'.6urk17s said:
Source engine is still good even by todays standards, to say otherwise is just silly. (Yes it is getting a bit dated now though)
In my opinion each episode in the half-life franchise has been good but they have taken far too long to get each one out considering their original promise of more games faster.
Have you even looked at the videos of Portal 2? Im not even gonna explain this one.
L4D2 was a mistake, it should have been a large DLC add-on to the first game though I would have been happy to pay and I think Valve has a free DLC forever thing going on so charging for all the new L4D2 stuff as a new game was the only viable choice. Still a mistake since it turned the first game into a ghost town though.
I think Valve are currently producing a new engine which they'll release with Ep3 because the Source engine is notoriously bad when it comes to snow and ice and it's pretty much the only explanation I can think of as to why it's taking them quiet so long to push the next Half-Life out.
they have been irritating lately... although i dont have a problem with them using the source engine, considering how great i think it is, i do have a problem with them keeping us in the dark about the next Half-Life installment.
a new multiplatform counterstrike would be nice, too. CS on the xbox was half-assed and glitchy as all hell, but it was still extremely fun to play, and was always in the top 5 played games up until XBL on the original xbox was shut down.
also, they really shouldnt have pumped out two zombie games in one year. thats just ridiculous, considering they are practically the same game.
i just hope they have been working on HL3 this whole time, and not just jerking around with these new IPs
a new multiplatform counterstrike would be nice, too. CS on the xbox was half-assed and glitchy as all hell, but it was still extremely fun to play, and was always in the top 5 played games up until XBL on the original xbox was shut down.
also, they really shouldnt have pumped out two zombie games in one year. thats just ridiculous, considering they are practically the same game.
i just hope they have been working on HL3 this whole time, and not just jerking around with these new IPs
I could take a massive shit on your desk for free, and you would have every right to complain.TimeLord said:
Honestly, you can't keep people silent if something is genuinely awful. Even if it is for free. Besides with the Mann Co store nobody gets to use the new weapons unless they pay for it.
I think you need to stop crying 1st of allKrylock said:
This thread reminds me of another about someone that's had it with Blizzard for advertising there games xD
Source engine /shrug Works fine why change it, Graphics "Outdated" Graphics are not everything maybe alot of the youth forgot the time before graphics made the game and not everything was Gun Metal Grey, Camo Green and Dirt Brown xD
Complaining about whole new games instead of sequals is silly as you may as well put Blizzard under the same thing then since they only activly work with 3 IP's Warcraft, Starcraft and DiabloCra.. I mean Diablo... or say Nintendo and the amount of Mario, Zelda, Pokemon and Metroid games.
if ya dont like it move on with your life no need to get all hot and bothered with Valve because they are still using an engine they made... If it aint broke dont fix it, hell lets face it it took ages before Bethesda Softworks moved off the Gamebryo engine and id suspect some of that is only to do with the makers of GameBryo going under.
Summing this up... if your gonna "CRY SOME MORE!" (as the heavy says) then you may also want to cry about a good few other developers too xD
I've never understood this craze either, considering i've never actually eaten it..Swny Nerdgasm said:
Proof that that's real. If so, then damn, those are pretty graphics. Quite a nice apocalyptic wasteland too.NAHTZEE said:
I think they can afford to lose your business.
Fact is they make quality, polished, and fun games on their own schedule. If you have criticisms of that, good luck finding quality games elsewhere. Try:
Blizzard - oh wait they make sequels too... Not many oirignal IPs these days. Diablo 1, 2, and 3. Warcraft 1, 2, and 3. Stracraft 1 and 2. Uh oh, guess you won't want to play any Blizzard games, at least one new IP MOO is coming...
Activision - Lol. You complain about sequels, no go here.
Bethesda - Nope. Sequels galore, Elder Scrolls V on it's wait and Fallout 3 was a sequel.
Obsidian - Well besides the fact they suck, all they do is sequels. Minus Alpha Protocol, but again, suckage.
Log story short, your "sequels" complaint is useless. You'll shut yourself out of almost every developer if you do that. Most of them only have 2-3 IPs these days.
Fact is they make quality, polished, and fun games on their own schedule. If you have criticisms of that, good luck finding quality games elsewhere. Try:
Blizzard - oh wait they make sequels too... Not many oirignal IPs these days. Diablo 1, 2, and 3. Warcraft 1, 2, and 3. Stracraft 1 and 2. Uh oh, guess you won't want to play any Blizzard games, at least one new IP MOO is coming...
Activision - Lol. You complain about sequels, no go here.
Bethesda - Nope. Sequels galore, Elder Scrolls V on it's wait and Fallout 3 was a sequel.
Obsidian - Well besides the fact they suck, all they do is sequels. Minus Alpha Protocol, but again, suckage.
Log story short, your "sequels" complaint is useless. You'll shut yourself out of almost every developer if you do that. Most of them only have 2-3 IPs these days.
Well then really what is the point in even quoting me in the first place. I am a little peeved by this. What a completely and utterly pointless quote. Graphics should never come over gameplay or fixing bugs. I am not going to add IMO as it is obviously an opinion as I rather my games work right and play right that look nice.JeanLuc761 said:
Source was built as a modular engine from the start and the current version is vastly superior than the original. Saying its the same engine now is like saying Unreal Engine 3 only does the same things as Unreal Engine 1, which is bullshit its so untrue.
Left4Dead2 is a multiplayer game, which by their nature have to have scaled back visuals. A game with as many complexities as it requires a very efficient unique build of source to run as well as possible, it is not an accurate representation of the maximum capabilities of the engine. Play episode 2 and it is clearly more visually striking than L4D2 and easily much more impressive than HL2. That said Left4Dead2 is still a nice looking game, the zombie decals in particular are amazing.
And from what I've seen of Portal 2 source is doing even more amazing things, the shaders and lighting in particular are some of the best I have ever seen in a game and the texture res's and poly counts are definitely ramped up.
I don't know where you're pulling your 'source is outdated and looks crap' opinion from but it clearly isn't reality.
Left4Dead2 is a multiplayer game, which by their nature have to have scaled back visuals. A game with as many complexities as it requires a very efficient unique build of source to run as well as possible, it is not an accurate representation of the maximum capabilities of the engine. Play episode 2 and it is clearly more visually striking than L4D2 and easily much more impressive than HL2. That said Left4Dead2 is still a nice looking game, the zombie decals in particular are amazing.
And from what I've seen of Portal 2 source is doing even more amazing things, the shaders and lighting in particular are some of the best I have ever seen in a game and the texture res's and poly counts are definitely ramped up.
I don't know where you're pulling your 'source is outdated and looks crap' opinion from but it clearly isn't reality.