I have had it with Valve

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soldier9501

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The obvious mistake you're making is that you obviously consider Valve to be a game developer.

Once you get that crazy thinkin' out of your head and realize they're a digital distributor (who happens to make a game whenever they feel like it) you won't be so angry all the time.
 

Nico III

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I'm sure that everyone at Valve is panicking now, god forbid they lose one customer.

I personally love them. I enjoy every game they put out.

As for the next Half-Life game: It will never live up to the anticipation, so why make such a fuss?
 

Fuselage

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Ickorus said:
6urk17s said:
I like Valve. That is all.
This but no 'That is all.'.

Source engine is still good even by todays standards, to say otherwise is just silly. (Yes it is getting a bit dated now though)

In my opinion each episode in the half-life franchise has been good but they have taken far too long to get each one out considering their original promise of more games faster.

Have you even looked at the videos of Portal 2? Im not even gonna explain this one.

L4D2 was a mistake, it should have been a large DLC add-on to the first game though I would have been happy to pay and I think Valve has a free DLC forever thing going on so charging for all the new L4D2 stuff as a new game was the only viable choice. Still a mistake since it turned the first game into a ghost town though.

I think Valve are currently producing a new engine which they'll release with Ep3 because the Source engine is notoriously bad when it comes to snow and ice and it's pretty much the only explanation I can think of as to why it's taking them quiet so long to push the next Half-Life out.
Though keep in mind L4D2 Is a better mistake then most other company's games but it desolated my servers.
 

C95J

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OH NO!!! Someone hates something! I am shocked!

Wait!

Someone hates something AND wants to pointlessly share it with the world! I am also shocked!!!

/sarcasm

oh please I see these hate threads every day, just give it a rest who cares? I don't like things but I don't make threads expressing how I feel, because I know there is NO point besides you wanting attention for some reason.
 

monkey_man

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MiracleOfSound said:
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and here i thought the source engine looked great.
It was the best looking engine out there when Half life 2 was released, but as much of a fan as I am, I do think it's starting to look a bit dated now. L4D 2 was one ugly ass game.
excuse me?
Ugly? Compared to what?
 

AngelicSven

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Vindictus (2010) is their property, you're argument is invalid for them never making new things.

Gabe also said there will be three surprises in 2011 that none of us have heard of, assumingly one is Half-Life 3. It's very probable that one's gonna be a new IP.
 

nitro27

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Hey, who doesn't like a game that runs on actual computers, as opposed to something resembling a house. Besides, this person seems like a troll to me, (which is strange on The Escapist) a troll being someone who says something mostly if not completely for reaction.
 

Deathfyre

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I like Valve's games, I like their gameplay, y'know, the part of a game that matters? Graphics are a nice addition, but if sacrificing pretty for playability is what has to be done, then I'm all for it. (Before it's said, yes I know there are games out there that are pretty and fun, but the time it takes to work out a new engine would seriously detract from the time they can spend ironing out glitches and other problems with the gameplay)
 

Le_Lisra

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My shtick of being years behind the times mean I never get annoyed by this.. I just started to play the first Left4Dead and played the HL2 episodes earlier this year. I'm not emotionally invested in anything new being handed to me instantly, or expect anything great in the near future (or ever), so...

Calm down, chill out and enjoy what's there. There's enough.

I like Valve just fine.
 

AnonymouZero

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Krylock said:
When was the last time Valve [http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/meanwhile.jpg] announced a completely new series? L4D...how long ago was it?

Now they just announced Portal 2...or should I say Portal: More of the Same."

I mean, at least they could have it on a new engine, but NO!

They have used the same engine for an entire decade.

WOW!

Not to mention they have completely forgotten their best franchise! Hey guys! Remember Dr. Freeman! You know, the whole of Earth and stuff!

There should have been no "episodes" in the first place for HL2, and they should have all come out in the same year considering around five minutes were put into each section.

They are the perfect example of a lazy company, stop using the nasty Source engine, and get their engineers to make something that doesn't have Gamecube graphics.

I give up. I can't be pacified with TF2 updates forever. If Valve doesn't announce Episode 3, or HL3 running on a new engine soon I'm just done with them as a developer.

Actually I think they were done with Ep. 3 a long time ago, Gabe just ate it.

What do you think about the company?
i'm not reading thru replies, but i'm sure someone pointed out that the engine is helpful for all of those cheap bastards who like pc games and don't have the cash to update or get a gaming-only pc. it gives you the shooting you want, without killing your pc. which is good for business if you intend to have a long ass support of your games like valve does. if they didn't have a new engine in 20 years, then that'd be a different story, but for now it makes sense.
 

Zanaxal

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Newsflash. It wasn't valve that made the concept of portal. Yes the creators were hired by valve but since when does valve actually develope their own games anymore?

They just ride on the sales from steam and keep tweaking and slowing down and applying steam only locks to all their games.

Apparantley they had a whopping 10 people working on portal.

The rest were probably busy rolling around in cash and playing wow (idsoftware syndrome)

Anyways if they made some half-life game it probably wouldn't stand a chance to all the grey generic macho marince crap ther's been since valve gave birth to anything.

They've just been riding on the success of what other people designed for them. (Counter-Strike, Portal) So why bother making something themselves. When it's just a bland, HL1-dumbdowned and shortened, freeman mini-game.
 

Rewdalf

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Valve is one of the only companies that I truly respect.
They don't constantly try to scam users out of their money, and they respect each of their games and playerbases.
I mean, look at the guy that made Garry's Mod (Garry?). He was hired by Valve, because he was good at what he did and deserved to make money doing it.
Once Portal 2 was announced, they let people download the original Portal for free off of steam.
Fine, steam isn't the best program. People constantly have gripes with it and complain on and on (I mean, I still haven't had one issue honestly) but that doesn't mean that Valve is bad at what they do.
Look at Alien Swarm, free to play complete game. Not some small packaged little "gift" for us to enjoy for five minutes. It was an awesome game that can be fully modded which I still play today.
Their source engine still looks good, and I'm not saying I could play on it forever but I still don't have gripes with it. They're going to have to update it eventually, but I'm highly anticipating Portal 2. Who here had any issues with the original Portal? Sure, you'll try to answer that question with something you didn't like, but the Pros outweight the Cons, and the puzzles and challange modes keep you playing for a long time.
All in all, I support Valve all the way, and have been a follower ever since I played the original Half Life...
 

LawlessSquirrel

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T-Bone24 said:
Why don't we rag on 4A Games? Those bastards are hiding something, I know it.
I have no clue who they are, but you, sir, made me laugh.

It's the popular developers that get picked on the most I guess. Statistically, they have a larger sample of fans that could turn against them. I wouldn't call the OP a fan, but you know what I mean.
 

Blind Sight

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Wow, talk about childish whining, I mean, you're entitled to your opinion, but comments like 'they were done with ep 3 a long time ago, Gabe just ate it' makes you seem petty and immature.

Are you that big of a graphics whore that you can't stand the Source engine, despite the fact that they update it constantly with each new game? Apparently you can ignore the fact that Valve actually treats their audience with a bit of respect for the sake of 'better graphics'. I'd rather have a company that actually treated their fans decently with an outdated engine instead of an activision-esque publication machine that has modern engines but treats you like you're a wallet with legs.
 

Cursed Frogurt

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Portal 2 is more of the same? The TC obviously hasn't watched any of the gameplay videos or is being a troll.

And the same engine? Sure it's still Source but the videos of Portal 2 look gorgeous. Dat lighting...

I'm looking forward to Episode 3 as much as the next person and it sucks to wait this long, but at least Valve doesn't release crappy games (I think L4D is overrated but it's still enjoyable) or show off games that aren't ready for primetime.