I liked the ending to Mass Effect 3

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Mr. Self Destruct

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I didn't mind it, I was very, very caught up in the whole moment, my shep was all roughed up, the song was beautiful, and just the thought of her dieing was heart breaking, then I blew the shit out of those reapers and she rocked a wicked guitar solo.

The end
 

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well, OP, your kind of like of crazy homeless person to me: i have no idea why you say the things you do, it seems to defy basic, sane, emotional development, but it is rather harmless and kind of amusing, so whatever.

i can see how the ending might not be that BAD for some, if you just didnt really give two shits about anyone or anything involved and just played the mass effect series to kill time. but to actually LIKE it is utterly beyond my understanding of the human mind, other than a stereotypical hipster saying he likes it just because its the unconventional opinion (but you dont come off as that, so dont worry).
 

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I am so fuckin' jealous of people who liked the ending. You have no idea how a huge Mass Effect fan feels after being disappointed like that. I'm honestly crushed. I'm just a shadow of a person I once was. I can no longer justify my own existence.
 

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i though the ending was good. not what i would have picked, but then again it worked. people are only bitching about the ending because it's not the cliche "YOU SAVED THE GALAXY! THE REAPERS ARE DEFEATED! YAY!!!!" ending.

God forbid anyone actually have to think.
 

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Aerosteam 1908 said:
A husk is formed when water and trace materials are replaced with cybernetics, to be controlled by Harbinger is to be indoctrinated, not becoming a husk.
OK fine, you are a thrall now. Happy? But you will become a husk eventually...
 

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PonceyMcTosserFaic said:
i though the ending was good. not what i would have picked, but then again it worked. people are only bitching about the ending because it's not the cliche "YOU SAVED THE GALAXY! THE REAPERS ARE DEFEATED! YAY!!!!" ending.

God forbid anyone actually have to think.
You're exactly the kind of jackass twohundredpercent was talking about.

We hate the ending because it's fucking STUPID, not because it's sad.

Explain why my squadmates who were all on earth (and the two who were with me are implied to be killed/badly wounded) teleport to the Normandy.

Explain the Synthesis ending. Go ahead, I dare you, explain any damn thing about it. Why is there suddenly magic in an up-til-now hard sci-fi universe? Why is this awkward transhumanism theme shoehorned in at the end of a series that lacked it entirely?

Explain why the Destroy ending (the only one that actually accomplishes Shepard's mission) requires the destruction of all synthetic life, in direct contradiction to the series' major ongoing Aesop that synthetics and organics can and should get along?

And explain why every one of these endings render all previous decisions made in the series moot.

And off-topic, explain why the hell my captcha to post this is a goddamn Chevrolet ad. "The all-new Chevy Sonic." What the actual fuck.
 

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Alot of people seem to forget that both the previous endings had very little change. In ME2 you can last minute switch alignment to change the colour of the explosions, in ME the only difference is whether the council is alive to thank you.

I do agree there should have been a more in depth end and epilogue, but hell most of the whole damn game feels like an ending. Through out the game so many things you have already done are referenced, so many choices are not open to you unless you made a certain choice in ME(2), you can give hope or despair to so many.

The ending may be lacklustre but the game ties up so many ends in a beautiful way. I think this game has finally proved how mature and artful games can be.
 

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I like the ending for its general idea. Just pissed that t was so poorly done. I can understand the reapers thinking they were guardians of all life in the galaxy like some sort of hellish brainiac. It makes machinical sense to a computer unable to think pass its program, it won't be able to see the paradox or question the premise. But none of that was properly explored or explained and the game itself and the player were forgotten about as the writer got too carried away with their own idea. To correct this they don't have to do much, it just needed tidying up by a calm mind. I don't want to see a new ending. That woud selling out. Just tweak it so it's not such a frustration inducing pile of stupidness it is. And show people what advantage getting all assets gave so there is a sense that they didn't waste their time fetching some morons car keys.
 

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kman123 said:
For some reason I only got two endings...did I miss something to get the third ending?
There are the following:
Destroy, Low War Assets
Destroy, Medium War Assets
Destroy, High War Assets
Control, Medium War Assets
Control, High War Assets
Synthesize, High War Assets

In order to get the third choice you have to have a high level of war assets.
War assets achieved are based on the choices you've made throughout the three games as well as in the ME3. For example, if you gave the collector base to the Illusive Man at the end of ME2, it is going to be harder to get the synthesize ending. If your choices led to the destruction of the Geth and Quorians, it is going to be harder to get the synthesize ending. If you had lots of your ME2 crew die at the end it is going to be harder to get the synthesize ending.
 

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"Sure, the decisions in the 3 games meant more or less nothing where the ending is concerned "
stop, stop right fucking there that was the whole point, the ending was supposed to be based on choices,

although i am currently aboard the indoctrination theory so i am reserving judgement on the ending
 

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winginson said:
Alot of people seem to forget that both the previous endings had very little change. In ME2 you can last minute switch alignment to change the colour of the explosions, in ME the only difference is whether the council is alive to thank you.
That's because those games had sequels planned. It's hard to write a sequel that works for multiple dramatically different endings. ME3 is the last game of the trilogy, so that is not a worry here.
 

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No worries.

And what I do not understand about the allegory is... well all of it. I don't really see it at all.

And I kindof see where you're coming from now, although I slightly disagree. And even if I did, my response would be "if nothing you do matters, all that matters is what you do".


Ok, the picture titled "How it ended up" replace "ME1" with "Birth", replace "ME2" with "life", and replace "ME3" with "Death". The bottom part of that picture is saying the beginning and end are always the same no matter what "variation" the middle has. This can be said for the Mass Effect series as well as life.

You are one of the few people I have gotten to even say "Ok, I can see your point". I have gotten a lot of "But the developers said it was about this"! None of them stopped to think "Well if my choices matter and had all of this weight and lasting effect, then why do I become just another bedtime story equivalent to The Iliad"[footnote]Actually after thinking about it for a few minutes, that is the perfect story for this comparison.[/footnote]? It almost implies that people even doubted it happened or at least think some/most parts are greatly exaggerated.
 

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crudus said:
Zen Toombs said:
No worries.

And what I do not understand about the allegory is... well all of it. I don't really see it at all.

And I kindof see where you're coming from now, although I slightly disagree. And even if I did, my response would be "if nothing you do matters, all that matters is what you do".


Ok, the picture titled "How it ended up" replace "ME1" with "Birth", replace "ME2" with "life", and replace "ME3" with "Death". The bottom part of that picture is saying the beginning and end are always the same no matter what "variation" the middle has. This can be said for the Mass Effect series as well as life.

You are one of the few people I have gotten to even say "Ok, I can see your point". I have gotten a lot of "But the developers said it was about this"! None of them stopped to think "Well if my choices matter and had all of this weight and lasting effect, then why do I become just another bedtime story equivalent to The Iliad"[footnote]Actually after thinking about it for a few minutes, that is the perfect story for this comparison.[/footnote]? It almost implies that people even doubted it happened or at least think some/most parts are greatly exaggerated.
This one understands now. I think your birth-life-death allegory is very interesting and well thought out, although 1) I'm fairly certain that that was not intended, and 2) I personally disagree with that interpretation. It's still pretty cool though.

As for your second point, I see where you're coming from but strongly disagree. Would you say that, for instance, the actions/choices of George Washington mattered, and had weight and lasting effect? Because I would say that his choices and actions mattered, but he has effectively become what you call "just another bedtime story". What you describe is merely what happens to important events and people when you add a significant amount of time.

For some reason though, I really like your comparison of the Illiad to Mass Effect.
 

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Vuljatar said:
PonceyMcTosserFaic said:
i though the ending was good. not what i would have picked, but then again it worked. people are only bitching about the ending because it's not the cliche "YOU SAVED THE GALAXY! THE REAPERS ARE DEFEATED! YAY!!!!" ending.

God forbid anyone actually have to think.
You're exactly the kind of jackass twohundredpercent was talking about.

We hate the ending because it's fucking STUPID, not because it's sad.

Explain why my squadmates who were all on earth (and the two who were with me are implied to be killed/badly wounded) teleport to the Normandy.

Explain the Synthesis ending. Go ahead, I dare you, explain any damn thing about it. Why is there suddenly magic in an up-til-now hard sci-fi universe? Why is this awkward transhumanism theme shoehorned in at the end of a series that lacked it entirely?

Explain why the Destroy ending (the only one that actually accomplishes Shepard's mission) requires the destruction of all synthetic life, in direct contradiction to the series' major ongoing Aesop that synthetics and organics can and should get along?

And explain why every one of these endings render all previous decisions made in the series moot.

And off-topic, explain why the hell my captcha to post this is a goddamn Chevrolet ad. "The all-new Chevy Sonic." What the actual fuck.
well, sorry you didn't like the ending but at the same time IT'S A FUCKING GAME! christ you think someone actually died from all this internet rage. if you didn't like it, make your own damn game, then you can have whatever ending you want. until then STFU. i've played ME1, ME2 and ME3 and liked my ending. not saying it was perfect, but i liked it.

and all i see out of your post is "blahblahblahBUTTHURTblahblahblahCHANGETHEENDINGBECAUSEI'MSOFUCKINGIMPORTANTblahblahblah"
 

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I enjoyed the ending, I went through all three and personally I like the middle choice. I like where and how the story ended. Leaving it open to what you "think" happened instead of outright telling you.

You can imagine Tali safe and sound on her new home on Rannoc. Wrex playing around with thousands of little Krogan, the Rachni Queen leaving to go find a new planet to sing on.

Your choices did matter, but not in the ending as much as people think.

[a href="http://www.ign.com/wikis/mass-effect-3/End_Game_Chart_-_With_Spoilers"] IGN's End game Chart, caution Spoilers! [/a]

There are actually 18 variations of those last 10 minutes. Maybe the reason we don't get to see everything is because as gamers we actually try to get every little item and scrap we can? I understand the final decision was three, but small bits around it are actually quite larger. I am going to have to go back and see these one by one before I say if they are good/bad/indifferent but I thought I should say something.
 

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PonceyMcTosserFaic said:
well, sorry you didn't like the ending but at the same time IT'S A FUCKING GAME! christ you think someone actually died from all this internet rage. if you didn't like it, make your own damn game, then you can have whatever ending you want. until then STFU. i've played ME1, ME2 and ME3 and liked my ending. not saying it was perfect, but i liked it.

and all i see out of your post is "blahblahblahBUTTHURTblahblahblahCHANGETHEENDINGBECAUSEI'MSOFUCKINGIMPORTANTblahblahblah"
He's angry because keyboard warriors keep misrepresenting his argument. First as "U WANT HAPPY ENDING KTHX LOLZ" and then, when that's debunked, as "blahblahblahBUTTHURTblahblahblahCHANGETHEENDINGBECAUSEI'MSOFUCKINGIMPORTANTblahblahblah". If you can't be bothered to listen to and/or attempt to understand conflicting points of view, if your sole response is to taunt, belittle, misrepresent, and beat down straw men, then you really don't have grounds to be surprised when your attitude is met with irritation. This is honestly one of the most juvenile, most aggressive forms of trolling and basic, root level antagonism. The fact that you're cheerfully engaging in it, whilst attempting to present yourself as the level-headed, mature party in the conversation, shows a stunning lack of self-reflection.
 

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BloatedGuppy said:
PonceyMcTosserFaic said:
well, sorry you didn't like the ending but at the same time IT'S A FUCKING GAME! christ you think someone actually died from all this internet rage. if you didn't like it, make your own damn game, then you can have whatever ending you want. until then STFU. i've played ME1, ME2 and ME3 and liked my ending. not saying it was perfect, but i liked it.

and all i see out of your post is "blahblahblahBUTTHURTblahblahblahCHANGETHEENDINGBECAUSEI'MSOFUCKINGIMPORTANTblahblahblah"
He's angry because keyboard warriors keep misrepresenting his argument. First as "U WANT HAPPY ENDING KTHX LOLZ" and then, when that's debunked, as "blahblahblahBUTTHURTblahblahblahCHANGETHEENDINGBECAUSEI'MSOFUCKINGIMPORTANTblahblahblah". If you can't be bothered to listen to and/or attempt to understand conflicting points of view, if your sole response is to taunt, belittle, misrepresent, and beat down straw men, then you really don't have grounds to be surprised when your attitude is met with irritation. This is honestly one of the most juvenile, most aggressive forms of trolling and basic, root level antagonism. The fact that you're cheerfully engaging in it, whilst attempting to present yourself as the level-headed, mature party in the conversation, shows a stunning lack of self-reflection.
well, you missed the point TWICE, but ok. i just don't know why everyone is up in arms about the ending. i also don't why people think they are so entitled to say that they demand a different ending of a game in which they had no part of creating said game. also, a whole paragraph? jesus christ, you could talk a brick wall down. also, i am not angry. i don't where you got that from, Dr.Phil.
 

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PonceyMcTosserFaic said:
well, you missed the point TWICE, but ok. i just don't know why everyone is up in arms about the ending. i also don't why people think they are so entitled to say that they demand a different ending of a game in which they had no part of creating said game. also, a whole paragraph? jesus christ, you could talk a brick wall down. also, i am not angry. i don't where you got that from, Dr.Phil.
Yeah...and this is the point you're missing. Your INABILITY to understand other points of view does not necessarily indicate that other points of view are flawed. It demonstrates an INABILITY on your part to think outside yourself. Believe it or not, I'm capable of paraphrasing the arguments of people who disagree with me in respectful ways, without resorting to straw men, name calling, or sneering. I may still disagree with them, but that doesn't mean I can't UNDERSTAND and RESPECT their point of view. There isn't even a real trick to it. It's called being an adult.