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Because he's vulnerable and generally speaking it's fun to belittle one's opponents.Amnestic said:
Us or them.x434343 said:
Now evidently axiomatic
Not to, you know, say "Self-contradictory" or anything...but seriously? I knew a guy in school with the last name Hussein. Did I suspect him of having ties to Saddam? Not really, because that would be pants on head retarded. If Obama's middle name was Hitler I wouldn't care. I'm sure that before Adolf there were dozens of Hitlers who weren't genocidal pricks. I couldn't say so much afterwards, I'm fairly sure most people with the last name Hitler would have changed their name away from it to avoid ignorant bigots like yourself.
As opposed to electing McCain who might establish EmpireMerica with himself as the self-appointed Emperor? Or McCain who might murder off the entire population? Or McCain who might have sex with a donkey? Really, your comment is baseless.
I'm four degrees of separation from both Saddam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden. Three from George Bush. I have ties to not only a famous terrorist but also the soon-to-be Ex-President of the united states. What's your point, precisely?
Honestly your entire post reeks of what I'd hope to be sarcasm but going by what I've seen of some people you might actually be serious. And that's so goddamn depressing it's untrue.
Ex opponent ;/ As I said the election is over, it's done. Or at least, one would hope it was but apparently people haven't yet gotten over their election boners so they need to harp on about it.Imitation Saccharin said:
This is like the Jack Thompson thing. He has nothing to do with anybody anymore. He's out of the spotlight. Let it die.
First off, we have been in a war for 7 years, and we just last year offed a guy who tested chemical weapons in northern Iraqi towns because they supported Iran more than Iraq. Another thing: Names, people. Names suck, and I know Hussein is a Muslim name. I just think not all of America knew that his middle name was Hussein. If they did, maybe some would have thought differently.Amnestic said:
You've proven my point of not thinking again. Thank you!
Have you read Obama's policies? Tax people who make somewhere between $100000 and $200000 a year HEAVILY. Give no taxes to below. Take more from rich, give more to poor. And Communism is redistribution of wealth. Now, let's do the math. If you tax the rich heavily, then you get money. If you give to the poor with the rich money, you... have redistributed wealth.
He wants to get rid of Amendment 2, the Right to Bear Arms. Which has not been eliminated because it's there for one purpose: The people, in a time of crisis, can use the arms to overthrow the government. No other reason. If you take it away, you are saying "MY GOVERNMENT IS RIGHT. YOU CANNOT DESTROY IT. IF YOU DO YOU WILL BE CHARGED WITH A FELONY AND IMPRISONED" (Because the Death Penalty will be "inhumane")
My point on the political ties to Kenya. It's not like, his friend knows a guy who knows a guy who has a second cousin that knows a guy who's grandfather's uncle's cousin's friend's son is a political person in Kenya.
His father is a chief Financial Advisor in Kenya. Not much of a degree of separation. So, if his father were to come along and ask for some cash to help the country buy more arms, Obama would say:
A. "Yes, papa."
B. "But of course."
C. "Indoubitably."
D. "Awww jeah!"
Take your pick.
I'm dead serious. I don't fuck around with politics.
How the hell...Mr. Moose said:
Is that constructive?
At least Amnestic gave some criticism. You are just Acid. BTW, Amnestic, you do have some intellect, so I'll respect you more than Democrats that think like this guy and just want all Republicans to die or something.. Agreed?
Not everyone's an idiotx434343 said:
Actually communism is government ownership of property and the means of production in particular.x434343 said:
The invisible hand is marxist!x434343 said:
Imitation Saccharin said:
A. Didn't say all were idiots. I said "not all of America", meaning a small few.
B. PROPERTY. Is money property? In any case, It'll make us a welfare-state. Maybe I've never read Communist Manifesto, so, I'll be the first to say it, I am wroong about him being Communist. BUT HE IS IN FAVOR of taking away earnings from people who deserve it to give it to the drug addicts, the people too lazy to get a job, and the one I'll admit should get it, the homeless by no cause.
C. What?
I find it highly difficult to believe anyone who could vote with a TV or internet connection in America knew his name was Hussein. That you believe things would have gone differently had they known that (which I still hold that they did) speaks to more of you acting as a sore-loser looking for things to blame for a loss rather than simply accepting that more people supported Obama's position.
Or he could have the opinion that the easy-access to guns leads to more fatalities during criminal acts and he wishes the best for America's people? Just a thought. Isn't there already some sort of anti-gun legislation in D.C. as it stands? Ah yes. Here we go. Anti-gun legislation in DC appeared in 1976, amusingly while a Republican President was in power. A year later yet another Republic President was put into power and nothing changed. Intriguing, no? Surely you should be worried that McCain would follow his party's example and restrict gun ownership further, rather than worry about the democrats?
Have you ever said no to your Father or do you bow to his every wish like some sort of puppy-dog? I ask you quite seriously, as your entire point rests on this. You also seem to completely ignore that Obama might have some sort of professional integrity. And, I believe, the checks and balances system of the US government. I'm not up to date on statistics, but I believe that there's a Republican majority in the Senate? I doubt they'd be too happy about all that. You can't just "give money" as President, there's proper channels for such a thing and if Obama were found to be abusing his position he'd be impeached faster than you could say "Guess he wasn't right about the change."
As opposed to McCain's plan which in the end only benefits the people earning the most in the country, thus increasing the "rich-poor" divide? Not to mention that under McCain's plan the national deficit was projected to increase by yet another $4.5 trillion, compared to only a $3.3 trillion of Obama's. Sure, neither number is particularly encouraging, but a difference of $1.2 trillion in regards to the national deficit is a fair bit of money.
Edit: Fucks sake I'm not even American, I shouldn't be arguing these points. There should be politically driven people who this will directly affect arguing these points.
It was meant to imply the small few would still have dissenting members. Hence, your following conjecture is invalid based on the precept that to alter one's vote based on Hussein is characteristic of an idiot.x434343 said:
Not in communist theory, no.x434343 said:
Irrelevant. You were wrong.x434343 said:
The invisible hand is the tendency of free market systems to display certain qualities and trends, like redistribution of wealth, accumulation of capital, etc., as though guided by an invisible hand. First proposed by Adam Smith.x434343 said:
Edit: I should say first popularized by Adam Smith
No worries. Just thought I'd point out the mistake before some passer by wandered in and accused me of being stupid. (This isn't an opportunity for NewClassic, Saccharin, Iron Ninja, Altorin...or anyone else for that matter, to start saying mean things to me.)blueye said: