I really dont get it... (Dark Knight)
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Loved the Dark Knight, allow me to take a few moments to explain why. In my opinion it was extremely well paced, i never felt bored or even slightly impatient. I was always on the edge of my seat, and I really liked Heath Ledger's preformance.
Being the ignorant person I am, i was not even aware he was dead when i went to see the movie, and thought his performance was amazing. Honestly, i watched the episodes of Mark Hamil as the joker, and i loved every instant of it. However, it thought Heath portrayed a more real joker. Hamil's joker never really showed any other face than his laughing sadistic one, but Heith's was multidimensional with his lies and sometimes strange decisions.
Also, I loved the Watchmen, since some people seem to be talking about that. Great movie, but i also fall into the archetype of "loved the graphic novel" so i am an incredibly biased source.
Being the ignorant person I am, i was not even aware he was dead when i went to see the movie, and thought his performance was amazing. Honestly, i watched the episodes of Mark Hamil as the joker, and i loved every instant of it. However, it thought Heath portrayed a more real joker. Hamil's joker never really showed any other face than his laughing sadistic one, but Heith's was multidimensional with his lies and sometimes strange decisions.
Also, I loved the Watchmen, since some people seem to be talking about that. Great movie, but i also fall into the archetype of "loved the graphic novel" so i am an incredibly biased source.
Oh, I'm gonna assume you've never seen American Psycho, or The Machinist, because you wouldn't be saying that if you saw those two movies. He was not that bad in the Dark Knight either, his voice was supposed to be deep when he was batman to bring fear to his enemies and to hide his voice. Although, he could've been alot better in Terminator Salvation, but it didn't help that that movie wasn't good.The Unknown Stuntman said:
You figured it out in the first 5 minutes? If I recall, there's less than five SECONDS between the coin being introduced and the "reveal" that it's two headed. The two headed is NEVER a mystery, there's nothing to figure out. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the scene goes something like this: "Toss for it? HEADS!" "How can you leave something like that to chance?" "Haha! Double headed!" I really liked the introduction of the coin. Rather than just being a "Oh, he's insane now, so he needs a gimmick" the coin is introduced as part of him from the start. First with him just dicking around, then using to torture someone, and then becoming a key part of his fractured world view. I loved Eckhart's portrayal, and I really wish they'd given him more time (say, by cutting out the entirely unneccesary trip to Hong Kong)The Unknown Stuntman said:
I'm firmly on the Heath side of the Joker debate. I like Nicholson, but his version of the Joker was a clown first, a criminal a distant second. Everything he does is overly light hearted. After the "How 'bout a magic trick?" scene the electric hand buzzer seems rather tame. And vandalising an art gallery? That's pathetically small-time. Ledger's Joker was much, much more sinister. From the Arkham Asylum demo, Hamil's Joker is a nice middle ground.
On the topic of Bale: Have you seen Manos: The Hands of Fate? Then think carefully about calling people the worst actor ever (Okay, you said that you've ever seen, but I refuse to believe you've been spoiled enough by films for that not to be hyperbole) Yes, Bale dropped the ball in TDK, but there was nothing for him to do. All his does is react to the Joker, throw a party, and then mope when Maggie Gyllenhaal dies. This is something I think is the glaring flaw in the film: There's no drive. The entire film is just people reacting to what the Joker does. And since a lot of it happens off-screen and for little apparent reason the narrative feels...bizzare.
Watch The Machinist, The Prestige, and American Psycho then tell me that Bale is a terrible actor. He's slipped in the past few years (anyone know what he's like in 3:10 to Yuma?) but he's capable of some very good stuff.
On the other films that have come up: Distric 9 is phenomonal. I'm talking up there with Aliens/Terminator 2. Give him a few years, Blomkamp is the new James Cameron.
Slumdog Millionaire: Somewhat contrived set-up, but I'll forgive that. The plot that it set up was pretty good, and the phonecall at the end (along with the fantastic "BURNN!" feeling of the last question) was very tense. The resolution made me furious (DESTINY? Blech. Should have taken the money) but that feeling was washed away almost immediately by the dance-off in the station. Genius.
This. If you go in not wanting to like the movie, then your not going to, no matter how good it is.Taerdin said:
The first Nolan Batman was fucking dull, the only reason this one worked for me was Ledgers Joker, which was brilliantly done. He was totally committed to the character and made it his own. But as I've said before Bale is the most over rated actor ever. He's a shite Batman and just annoys me immensely these days.
Can you imagine a more terrifying Joker?
If nothing else, that there is a perfectly valid reason to love it.
He does seem to do better with reserved characters.
If nothing else, that there is a perfectly valid reason to love it.
This. He was good in 3:10 to Yuma, I thoroughly enjoyed his performance.StevieWonderMk2 said:
He does seem to do better with reserved characters.
Every time someone says Heath Ledger was the best Joker ever, I want to punch them in the face, then call up Mark Hamill so he can punch them in the face, too.
As for Christian Bale, I would add Rescue Dawn to the list of films that he's quite good in, and comment that everyone who hasn't seen The Prestige should be imprisoned and beaten with wet noodles.
As for Christian Bale, I would add Rescue Dawn to the list of films that he's quite good in, and comment that everyone who hasn't seen The Prestige should be imprisoned and beaten with wet noodles.
i actually liked the movie, however i didn't get behind the whole "omg the best Joker ever" he was ok but they missed a lot of the point of the Joker and what the Joker was supposed to be and do, there was never a joke behind what he was doing
I was going to say "why so serious", but realized that the irony was heavy enough to club small children with.pimppeter2 said:
And yes, it's almost as overused as "epic" and "noob" in day-to-day life.
Oddly enough, I just saw a Time Warner commercial that used the word "noob". I felt like throwing a brick at my television, but it's fairly new and very expensive.
So Romero gets no love?bilkobob said:
"?Batman? isn?t a comic book anymore. Christopher Nolan?s ?The Dark Knight? is a haunted film that leaps beyond its origins and becomes an engrossing tragedy."TheSunshineHobo said:
In one sentence, Ebert has managed to insult the entirety of the comic industry by saying that it is a childish medium incapable of having tragedy.
Slum Dog Millionaire actually was great.Mcface said:
Anyway, The Dark Knight was quite a good film, but I agree, it was tremendously over hyped. Heath Ledger was great, there's no denying that, but the actual Batman parts were lacking. In Batman Begins, Batman is portrayed as one scary fucker that the bad guys have nightmares about. He really plays upon the psychological aspect. In The Dark Knight, however, every problem is solved by Batman bursting into a room and kicking some bad guy ass.
I loved it. Its my personal favorite movie of 2008 right behind Let The Right One In. But there are 2 things that are kinda pissing me off about it. Not the movie itself, just what people make of it.
1. Heath Ledger did an absolutely wonderful job as The Joker, but I don't think it was enough to kill him. People always say "He died over this role" and "It was his greatest performance"
No, I don't think that this role killed him. He had 3 or 4 movies he was doing at the same time and he was over worked and accidentally overdoesed on pills. And I really think all the hype over the movie came from his death. People almost liked it out of sympathy. I still personally like Mark Hammil's Joker the best.
2. Christian Bale's Batman voice. People always ***** about it, but seem to forget that he is [b/]hiding his identity[/b]. The other people who played Batman just used their regular Bruce Wayne voice. Thats partially why George Clooney sucked as Batman. There was no change in his voice. Plus, it was used to scare the living shit out of his enemies. The whole bat persona was used to instill fear in his enemies.
And, on a side note, Slumdog Millionare is the most overrated movie I've ever seen right behind Titanic. Everyone who watches it are always like, "Oh, its an uplifting love story by these Indian guys" First off, uplifting movies suck, second, its not even an Indian film. Its by Danny Boyle, the same guy who did Trainspotting, Sunshine, and 28 Days Later, all of which are better than Slumdog Millionare
1. Heath Ledger did an absolutely wonderful job as The Joker, but I don't think it was enough to kill him. People always say "He died over this role" and "It was his greatest performance"
No, I don't think that this role killed him. He had 3 or 4 movies he was doing at the same time and he was over worked and accidentally overdoesed on pills. And I really think all the hype over the movie came from his death. People almost liked it out of sympathy. I still personally like Mark Hammil's Joker the best.
2. Christian Bale's Batman voice. People always ***** about it, but seem to forget that he is [b/]hiding his identity[/b]. The other people who played Batman just used their regular Bruce Wayne voice. Thats partially why George Clooney sucked as Batman. There was no change in his voice. Plus, it was used to scare the living shit out of his enemies. The whole bat persona was used to instill fear in his enemies.
And, on a side note, Slumdog Millionare is the most overrated movie I've ever seen right behind Titanic. Everyone who watches it are always like, "Oh, its an uplifting love story by these Indian guys" First off, uplifting movies suck, second, its not even an Indian film. Its by Danny Boyle, the same guy who did Trainspotting, Sunshine, and 28 Days Later, all of which are better than Slumdog Millionare
Agree completely on the upcoming film, and you had reasons for being harsh that you stated, I see nothing wrong with that.Mcface said:
