I recently realised something surprising about myself

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ChippedShoulder

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Surely eternal happiness would be impossible without having sadness as a point of reference? Aren't all emotions relative anyway? These are genuine questions, not me trying to be snobbily philosophical or anything.
 

AssassinJoe

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eggy32 said:
AssassinJoe said:
eggy32 said:
AssassinJoe said:
No. I couldn't accept that offer. It sounds excessively boring.
but you'd be eternally happy.
Who says I'm not already happy? Besides with most of my brain functions removed I really wouldn't be me now would I?
I'm sure you're happy now but at some point in life you were unhappy or will be unhappy. And I can't quite understand peoples'(including my own) lack of willingness to give up being themselves. Why is that so important?
It just so happens that I like being me. Yes sometimes I will be unhappy but those times don't last.
 

MikailCaboose

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lacktheknack said:
No thanks. No reason not to take it, but no reason to take it either.
Actually, there would be a reason to not take it, as this situation would immediately not only affect yourself, but who you know as well. Well, potentially at least.
 

eggy32

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ChippedShoulder said:
Surely eternal happiness would be impossible without having sadness as a point of reference? Aren't all emotions relative anyway? These are genuine questions, not me trying to be snobbily philosophical or anything.
I think you're right and so are the others who said the same thing. It lead me to think up another scenario. It's the same but every 2 days you feel sad. That gives the happiness a point. Would you still deny the opportunity? I think I would but only on the basis that I wouldn't really be me. Now I'm trying to figure out why being me is so important to me.
 

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MikailCaboose said:
lacktheknack said:
No thanks. No reason not to take it, but no reason to take it either.
Actually, there would be a reason to not take it, as this situation would immediately not only affect yourself, but who you know as well. Well, potentially at least.
But the knew you has no memories of those people and wouldn't care if they were sad.
 

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eggy32 said:
You make a good point but why would I want to be the me that I am when I could be a completely different person who has eternal happiness without any suffering?
Because with only happiness the you have no reference point to base the happiness on. The existence of tragedy makes ecstasy all the better.
 

eggy32

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mikozero said:
logic is very attractive if you are young thinker
sets out an easy early view of the world
cause and effect, the "just world" hypothesis
stuff like that.

it doesn't come anywhere near to be as all-encompassing as some people think eraly on tho.

there's much more to life than cold hard logic.

i could name several of the most important points in your life in advance where overflowing emotion will be unavoidable and indeed an integral part of the experience and for that matter life itself.

as Mouse said "To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human"
I get what you mean about logic not being all-encompassing. I meant to say in my first post that I "try not to let emotions over ride logic." 100% logical thinking doesn't make everything make sense and indeed it would dehumanize us. Now I'm left wondering why we want to be human. (I'm willing to bet a lot of what i said didn't make sense to most of you and sounds like the silly ramblings of a teenager who thinks he's more intelligent than he is.) Does it?
 

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Yes, see, the point is to be happy. For all that the world is, it gives us opportunities to enrich ourselves in a way that logic can't describe.
 

eggy32

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Thanks again all of you. Now I'm off to retire to my bed for sleep although I'll probably end up thinking about why being me is so important to me and crying after seeing that treally sad image thread on here.

Goodnight.
 

MikailCaboose

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eggy32 said:
MikailCaboose said:
lacktheknack said:
No thanks. No reason not to take it, but no reason to take it either.
Actually, there would be a reason to not take it, as this situation would immediately not only affect yourself, but who you know as well. Well, potentially at least.
But the knew you has no memories of those people and wouldn't care if they were sad.
Yes, but the current you would be forced to decide whether or not they want to be so selfish. While the new you would be oblivious, first you will have to deal with the current you, and that could serve as a fairly effective roadblock.
 

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Happyness is not forever, it wares off. And haveing these brain functions i have now, i like them and want to keep them, maby even expand them. The problem is, we know theres more, and to have less is a step backwords. I too remove emotion from the equation, but i still allow self respect and pride to make an appearence.
 

ChippedShoulder

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I wouldn't do it, mostly because of the burning need to assert to myself that my life is actually significant. Not being able to impact the world in anyway, effectively becoming merely a drain on the world rather than a contributor, would terrify me. In my own eyes I would effectively be dead. I know that I would be oblivious to that fact but the point remains that I would have to actively make the choice to become this ... thing. Good God, reading the saddest image ever thread just before posting here was not a good idea. SO DEPRESSED. Need a happy thread...
 

Some_weirdGuy

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I realised i was one of those cliche sensitive faggy types when i was caring for an injured butterfly whose wing got torn so it couldn't fly properly...


yes, a butterfly.

>.<
 

Skorpyo

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Incredible discussion value is incredible.

Topic for discussion pl0x.

Side note: I once carried home a starving kitten I found in a street gutter. When I was 19.
 

DBHGamer

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I'd say no to that offer.

For a starter, I wouldn't want to change what is essentially 'me' radically if I didn't have to work hard towards getting there myself. And secondly because I am quite content with the excitement that my life and line of work supplies me with. I am happy knowing that the outcome of my everyday actions may or not benefit my future and that possibly anything, good or bad, may happen at any instance, it is actually exiting (ask me a few years ago and I wouldn't understand and/or agree). The thought that I have to do better all the time and work hard to reach my goals is really satisfying, although not void of risk, but that is what makes it interesting.

My father is really sick (potentially fatal but stable at the time) and the kind of question you are asking does make my mind shift gears. Would I want to leave all the suffering that life inevitably has in store for me? Would I accept what is essentially an easy life after all I have been through?

A few years ago, I would have said yes, because then I thought that whatever alternative to 'this' was a step up the ladder. But now, I am in a period of my life where I find myself slowly shaping my own future and advancing both academically, professionally and personally, and I have never felt as happy. I would say no, just for the heck of not knowing what may come around the corner: the love of my life or the death of a loved one, a million dollar lottery ticket or a parking ticket?
 

RottingAwesome

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i'd never take it, you wouldn't really be alive would you?
you would be existing, but you wouldn't be alive. im able to find pleasure in most emotions just out of the feeling of being alive, even if it's just in retrospect.

i think you would in reality be suffering; of course you wouldn't know it because you'd be "happy"

"If ignorance is bliss, then knock the smile off my face"
-Zack de la Rocha, Settle for Nothing