Surely eternal happiness would be impossible without having sadness as a point of reference? Aren't all emotions relative anyway? These are genuine questions, not me trying to be snobbily philosophical or anything.
It just so happens that I like being me. Yes sometimes I will be unhappy but those times don't last.eggy32 said:I'm sure you're happy now but at some point in life you were unhappy or will be unhappy. And I can't quite understand peoples'(including my own) lack of willingness to give up being themselves. Why is that so important?AssassinJoe said:Who says I'm not already happy? Besides with most of my brain functions removed I really wouldn't be me now would I?eggy32 said:but you'd be eternally happy.AssassinJoe said:No. I couldn't accept that offer. It sounds excessively boring.
Actually, there would be a reason to not take it, as this situation would immediately not only affect yourself, but who you know as well. Well, potentially at least.lacktheknack said:No thanks. No reason not to take it, but no reason to take it either.
I think you're right and so are the others who said the same thing. It lead me to think up another scenario. It's the same but every 2 days you feel sad. That gives the happiness a point. Would you still deny the opportunity? I think I would but only on the basis that I wouldn't really be me. Now I'm trying to figure out why being me is so important to me.ChippedShoulder said:Surely eternal happiness would be impossible without having sadness as a point of reference? Aren't all emotions relative anyway? These are genuine questions, not me trying to be snobbily philosophical or anything.
But the knew you has no memories of those people and wouldn't care if they were sad.MikailCaboose said:Actually, there would be a reason to not take it, as this situation would immediately not only affect yourself, but who you know as well. Well, potentially at least.lacktheknack said:No thanks. No reason not to take it, but no reason to take it either.
Because with only happiness the you have no reference point to base the happiness on. The existence of tragedy makes ecstasy all the better.eggy32 said:You make a good point but why would I want to be the me that I am when I could be a completely different person who has eternal happiness without any suffering?
I get what you mean about logic not being all-encompassing. I meant to say in my first post that I "try not to let emotions over ride logic." 100% logical thinking doesn't make everything make sense and indeed it would dehumanize us. Now I'm left wondering why we want to be human. (I'm willing to bet a lot of what i said didn't make sense to most of you and sounds like the silly ramblings of a teenager who thinks he's more intelligent than he is.) Does it?mikozero said:logic is very attractive if you are young thinker
sets out an easy early view of the world
cause and effect, the "just world" hypothesis
stuff like that.
it doesn't come anywhere near to be as all-encompassing as some people think eraly on tho.
there's much more to life than cold hard logic.
i could name several of the most important points in your life in advance where overflowing emotion will be unavoidable and indeed an integral part of the experience and for that matter life itself.
as Mouse said "To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human"
Yes, but the current you would be forced to decide whether or not they want to be so selfish. While the new you would be oblivious, first you will have to deal with the current you, and that could serve as a fairly effective roadblock.eggy32 said:But the knew you has no memories of those people and wouldn't care if they were sad.MikailCaboose said:Actually, there would be a reason to not take it, as this situation would immediately not only affect yourself, but who you know as well. Well, potentially at least.lacktheknack said:No thanks. No reason not to take it, but no reason to take it either.
You'd be a vegetable.eggy32 said:but you'd be eternally happy.AssassinJoe said:No. I couldn't accept that offer. It sounds excessively boring.