I think EA/Bioware are blatantly trolling now.

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dreadedcandiru99 said:
http://i.imgur.com/Ikg4Q.jpg

That's one way of putting it, I guess. It's like how the Titanic provoked a bigger cruise line passenger reaction than any other ship in maritime history.
Aye, but the thing is, unlike Bioware's statements about ME3's ending content, this isn't actually a lie.
 

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anc[is]PR's gonna PR.
This. There are lies, damned lies, and statistics. They're going to twist the numbers however they can to try to sell more units. That's how they roll. They aren't necessarily lying; it's just some Aes Sedai BS.
 

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Remember they are not changing the story because of integrity.

This whole thing is simply excruciating.
 

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I hope it gets more people to play the game - it's a great game overall and the series has a lot going for it - and if, when they reach the conclusion that sparked so much "Fan Reaction" perhaps they will join in the controversy on one side or the other, or simply accept it (which is also fine).

It's advertising. They didn't actually say anything untrue, and they put the spin on it that is going to be financially advantageous for them. That's kinda what companies do.

Meanwhile, I'm still waiting on getting an epilog/closure. As patiently as I can.
 

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NO NO NO! This is blatant false advertisement. By claiming it provoked a bigger fan reaction than any other game, that clearly means that fans absolutely loved it and implies that it is supposed to be good! We cannot let EABioware get by with intentionally misleading the public. We need to band together and press false advertising charges on this blatant disregard for the promises left unfulfilled by the culmination of all the precedents set by previous advertisements. How dare they throw all their previous advertisements out the window?!? We must band together and make cupcakes and use children as shields to defend our rightfully deserved position!


Yeeeah ok. Enough is enough already. The Equine is deceased. Pummeling it further will do nothing to it and only hurt you.
 

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Why is everyone so focused on the ending? I believe that this was one of the best written games ever, and it's the first game to ever make me as emotional as it did. Sure the ending wasn't fantastic but I highly doubt that any ending Bioware wrote would have made the fans happy. As for myself I happened to think the ending wasn't half bad.
 

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imahobbit4062 said:
Harb said:
imahobbit4062 said:
Harb said:
MelasZepheos said:
And the second part is also completely true. Can you name another game that has provoked a bigger fan reaction? Not positive or negative...
World of Warcraft. Modern Warfare 2. Final Fantasy XIII-2.

Ain't sure there are more, but this sample should be sufficient.
None of those had as big a reaction than the ending to ME3 did.
In that case I would like to remind you what happened when Blizzard announced they would show people's real names on their forums.

Modern Warfare 2 and the Airport mission is a story on its own.
Did they have big reactions? Yes. Did they have reactions as big as this whole ME3 ending controversy? Not by a long shot.
If you don't considering filling thousands of reports to ESRB, mass subscription cancellations (to the point when Blizzard had to make their account management services "unavailable"), harassing (unveiling their addresses, names, ect.) and stalking Blizzard employees as an example and writing letters to political representatives...well, that's your opinion then.
The difference is that Blizzard had a brain large enough to understand the situation and reacted within two days so the uprising didn't last as long as the one with ME3.
 

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*Links to the trolling song*

I actually think this is hilarious.
Is it wrong that the most fitting song for this would be in my opinion Benny Hill theme? :D
 

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MelasZepheos said:
So if of a hundred game reviewers 75 have given it perfect scores (assuming 10/10, 5/5 whatever other system chosen to be a perfect score) then part one is accurate, and there are plenty of people out there who are not butthurt nerds who have given it perfect scores, thus part one is absolutely correct. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean someone else in a position that actually matters to the gaming industry didn't give it a perfect score.
Eh, that they got perect scores actually says to me that the reviewers didn't get to the ending[footnote]Wouldn't be surprising, at least, given the length of games and the pressure to get reviews out ASAP, especially among the early reviews from which many of those scores derive. It seems most likely that they made an educated guess after a certain point, which fits the generally observed reaction of the fanbase (the vast majority of both those for and those against the "Retake" movement has been that the game was great up until the last few minutes)[/footnote], as points are often docked for far less. I'm not saying I'd expect the review to bomb because of it, but I would expect reivewers to account for it.

MelasZepheos said:
And the second part is also completely true. Can you name another game that has provoked a bigger fan reaction? Not positive or negative, because it doesn't specify that on the ad, but a 'bigger' reaction from the fans? Yeah, everyone who ever complained about it basically handed them the perfect ad campaign, so well done guys.
Correction: Literally true, the spirit of the statement is false though, as it has been transplanted into a context that tells a very different story than the original context. It's quote-mining at its finest. Amusingly, it also might have provided the strongest case for false-advertising in the process due to the implicit statement of the ad. To-wit:

To establish that an advertisement is false, a plaintiff must prove five things: (1) a false statement of fact has been made about the advertiser's own or another person's goods, services, or commercial activity; (2) the statement either deceives or has the potential to deceive a substantial portion of its targeted audience; (3) the deception is also likely to affect the purchasing decisions of its audience; (4) the advertising involves goods or services in interstate commerce; and (5) the deception has either resulted in or is likely to result in injury to the plaintiff. The most heavily weighed factor is the advertisement's potential to injure a customer. The injury is usually attributed to money the consumer lost through a purchase that would not have been made had the advertisement not been misleading. False statements can be defined in two ways: those that are false on their face and those that are implicitly false.

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Yeah. Pretty much... precisely this. It's a quote and a (presumedly true) stat on how many perfect scores the game's gotten. Might as well spin it into a PR campaign.

Anyways, even if you know that the "huge reaction" was an unending fountain of rage over the ending, that quote is still proof that the series was loved so much that there was... well... "a bigger fan reaction than any other video game's conclusion in the medium's history."

(Please note that I am purposefully not taking any side on "the Great Ending Debate" in this post. I have an opinion, of course, but it is unrelated to my reaction to the ad.)
 

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Hmmm...perfect...perfect?

No, no I don't think so.

Make no mistake, Mass Effect 3 is good, it's great, hell it's one of the best games I've ever played IMO. But it is not perfect.

I don't just mean the ending. Throughout the game I encountered a few bugs (including one that erased all progress towards trophies I hadn't obtained yet. I had to start all over on killing 5000 enemies dammit!), serious frame-rate drops (particularly on the Citadel), and the occasional super speedy, or just plain missing dialogue. Subtitles would show up, but there was no voice to go with them.

I don't know if this only happened to me (I have the PS3 version, maybe that has something to do with it?). But this game is not perfect by any meaning of the word, again IMHO.

I'd personally give it somewhere between 8.5 to 9 out of 10. Despite it's flaws the set pieces are epic, it has some of the most quotable dialogue I've heard since Armageddon, and a lot of the moments in the game will probably be immortalized on some websites top -insert number here- video game moments of all time.
 

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Harb said:
imahobbit4062 said:
Harb said:
MelasZepheos said:
And the second part is also completely true. Can you name another game that has provoked a bigger fan reaction? Not positive or negative...
World of Warcraft. Modern Warfare 2. Final Fantasy XIII-2.

Ain't sure there are more, but this sample should be sufficient.
None of those had as big a reaction than the ending to ME3 did.
In that case I would like to remind you what happened when Blizzard announced they would show people's real names on their forums.

Modern Warfare 2 and the Airport mission is a story on its own.
Hah! Those lasted about two weeks, each.

This has been going for WELL OVER A MONTH, AND ISN'T SLOWING.