I want the new gun that Colt is making

[spartan231490]

sounds like an awesome rifle, although i would have to see it to believe that it is accurate at 700m with a 16 in barrel. Personally, if I had to choose, I would go with a pump action remington ultramag. far more powerful round, extra long range, and tremendous knock down. I don't much care for full auto and pump is almost as fast as semi, while being much more reliable and easy to clean and care for.

 

[Frozen Donkey Wheel2]

Thank you Revolver Ocelot.

Nope, sorry.

The Colt and one of those spikes the angels carry, and you're set.

(Supernatural FTW!)

BINGO, we have a winner.

Here is your reward....[WARNING: MASSIVE spoilers for season 5 of Supernatural. Seriously, like last 10 minutes of the season finale massive. So don't watch it if you haven't seen it.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doxOD33Fvsc&NR=1&feature=fvwp

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

Followed the link, was kinda disappointed. I understand the need for adaptability, but it seems like all we're doing nowadays is making modular versions of the same gas-operated rifles we've had around for decades. I'll need to see more innovation than quick-change uppers before I get excited.

this. i fail to understand this trend of making them like kinder surprises, you add more moving parts and stuff the more chances it has of breaking

FN and Steyr got it right when they made the FAL/SLR and AUG respectively, simple to use, accurate and durable, what more do you need?

I just need a Desert Eagle and a knife.

why on earth would you want a handgun that weighs as much as a rifle, is rediculously expensive and mechanically complicated, only holds 7 bullets, leaves your wrists hurting after firing and has a high tendency to jam? (and before you ask, yes i have used a desert eagle, trust me they are overrated pieces of junk)

 

[Shirokurou]

American rifles are usually good on the shooting range, but when in warzones the US soldiers prefer trophy AKs... Or so I heard.

Bullshit, I have never heard of any US soldiers using AKs. They have no reason to, if you take can of an M-16 is a far superior rifle than the AK.

I saw it many times on war reports and soldiers mentioning that.

And my friend, the AK far outclasses the M-16 in battlefield utility. Read what the vets say of Vietnam for example.
It's common knowledge.

 

[Admiral Stukov]

This, sadly I know next to nothing about it, all I know is that it's an 18 shot 3 barrelled revolver in .25.

Spoiler

 

[Gilhelmi]

This, sadly I know next to nothing about it, all I know is that it's an 18 shot 3 barrelled revolver in .25.

Spoiler

I am so hoping that is real. I want that gun for my collection.

 

[loc978]

American rifles are usually good on the shooting range, but when in warzones the US soldiers prefer trophy AKs... Or so I heard.

Bullshit, I have never heard of any US soldiers using AKs. They have no reason to, if you take can of an M-16 is a far superior rifle than the AK.

I saw it many times on war reports and soldiers mentioning that.

And my friend, the AK far outclasses the M-16 in battlefield utility. Read what the vets say of Vietnam for example.
It's common knowledge.

Rather depends on the battlefield... Not that I'm a big fan of the Colt AR platform, but to call a 40-60 year old Russian surplus Kalashnikov with a sand-smoothed barrel a better battle rifle than a brand-spanking-new M4 that has been properly maintained by its user since he or she unboxed it on deployment train-up... well, no. Just no.

 

[superbatranger]

If I ever come into possession of a Winchester '94, then my life will be complete. I will not rest till I own one. Theyre probably common as muck in the USA, but sadly I doubt that in the UK.

Also, I'm a shotgun nut, and I love this beast the the British Army have started using, very similar to the M1014 I think, but shown below in the hands of Brit soldiers with an EoTech, a folding front grip and a 8+1 magazine

Spoiler

I'm no fan of guns, however if I had the option I would get a fraking portal gun!
or a M134 Minigun, they are neat as well.

I always saw Miniguns as a wast of ammo. Yaa, you just took 300 rounds to cut your enemy in half now what about the enemy sniper outside of your range, that you can not put accurate fire on?

I am not even that big of fan of the SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon), I do see the tactical advantage of having a no-mans land were these weapons are aimed but it just seems like over-kill.

SAW's probably seem like overkill, but I think their main purpose is for supressive fire, they send that much lead downrange to keep the enemies head down.

If I'm not mistaken, I think I have one of those Winchesters back home in Texas.

 

[Warped_Ghost]

why so new people! i live in the neatherlands! hell id go for a bleeding garand/kar98/gewehr/or one of those russian things that end in 40 what i keep forgetting the name of XD

or better, a drumfed mg42 XD might be a big thing, but im a big man, carrying that thing is not so much a problem when your rather large XD

You are of course are hinting at the SVT40.

 

[Gilhelmi]

American rifles are usually good on the shooting range, but when in warzones the US soldiers prefer trophy AKs... Or so I heard.

Bullshit, I have never heard of any US soldiers using AKs. They have no reason to, if you take can of an M-16 is a far superior rifle than the AK.

I saw it many times on war reports and soldiers mentioning that.

And my friend, the AK far outclasses the M-16 in battlefield utility. Read what the vets say of Vietnam for example.
It's common knowledge.

Rather depends on the battlefield... Not that I'm a big fan of the Colt AR platform, but to call a 40-60 year old Russian surplus Kalashnikov with a sand-smoothed barrel a better battle rifle than a brand-spanking-new M4 that has been properly maintained by its user since he or she unboxed it on deployment train-up... well, no. Just no.

That is the key, properly maintained. The only weapons I ever seen fail on the battlefield are the poorly maintained weapons. The M4/M16 is better then any AK ever built, M4 just need a little more TLC.

 

[II2]

As far as the original topic of the weapons being introduced for the contract competition, I personally hope for the success of the FN Scar or the HK 416 etc. I don't have the technical authority to boast about their individual features beyond what the companies advertise, but I love both designs and their modular flexibility.

Also, interesting piece of trivia my grandpa (RIP) passed down regarding WWII era Thompsons w/ box magazines: He said that from his extensive experience with them in his time in the armed forces, he noticed a consistent little oddity to them - if they overheated and jammed, for some reason it always happened on the last two bullets in the 30 round mag. For this reason, he instructed his squad to put 28 rounds in their magazines and to train with that. Apparently, under this direction, his squad had the least firearm malfunctions in his combat group.

Weird little, small footnote of history you I've never encountered in a book. It could well be that this was true only of that particular batch of Thompsons they worked with, manufacturing standards of the day being much less precise than now, but still... kinda interesting.

 

[Aur0ra145]

This looks like it's just an AR-15... Though, the military is finally making use of the ability to quickly change top-ends on the rifles to better suite the shooters to their environments.

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

Rather depends on the battlefield... Not that I'm a big fan of the Colt AR platform, but to call a 40-60 year old Russian surplus Kalashnikov with a sand-smoothed barrel a better battle rifle than a brand-spanking-new M4 that has been properly maintained by its user since he or she unboxed it on deployment train-up... well, no. Just no.

That is the key, properly maintained. The only weapons I ever seen fail on the battlefield are the poorly maintained weapons. The M4/M16 is better then any AK ever built, M4 just need a little more TLC.

you're both looking at it the wrong way, a weapon is only as good as the person using and maintaining it, that said some will be more popular than others due to ease of use, availability and durability, which is what makes the AKM so popular

plus i have yet to see any other make of rifle appear on a nations flag

 

[thahat]

why so new people! i live in the neatherlands! hell id go for a bleeding garand/kar98/gewehr/or one of those russian things that end in 40 what i keep forgetting the name of XD

or better, a drumfed mg42 XD might be a big thing, but im a big man, carrying that thing is not so much a problem when your rather large XD

You are of course are hinting at the SVT40.

indeed i am, thankyou.

 

[Shirokurou]

American rifles are usually good on the shooting range, but when in warzones the US soldiers prefer trophy AKs... Or so I heard.

Bullshit, I have never heard of any US soldiers using AKs. They have no reason to, if you take can of an M-16 is a far superior rifle than the AK.

I saw it many times on war reports and soldiers mentioning that.

And my friend, the AK far outclasses the M-16 in battlefield utility. Read what the vets say of Vietnam for example.
It's common knowledge.

Rather depends on the battlefield... Not that I'm a big fan of the Colt AR platform, but to call a 40-60 year old Russian surplus Kalashnikov with a sand-smoothed barrel a better battle rifle than a brand-spanking-new M4 that has been properly maintained by its user since he or she unboxed it on deployment train-up... well, no. Just no.

Never even held one...

And I'm just saying that American rifles usually excel in the shooting range, while Soviet Weaponry was always less accurate and ergonomic but more sturdy and reliable.

And god no, not only 40-60 year old stuff. The AN-94 is a masterpiece in it's own right. It's just thankfully, Russia and the US (or countries with imported state-of-the-art Russian and US weaponry) haven't faced in warfare to actually see which one fares better. And thank god. Less war, less death... Yay for Nuclear deterrence.

 

[SimuLord]

Stick a .308 into a scoped Winchester Model 70 and let me do some damage. 800 meters is more than enough range, I think.

 

[Gilhelmi]

Rather depends on the battlefield... Not that I'm a big fan of the Colt AR platform, but to call a 40-60 year old Russian surplus Kalashnikov with a sand-smoothed barrel a better battle rifle than a brand-spanking-new M4 that has been properly maintained by its user since he or she unboxed it on deployment train-up... well, no. Just no.

That is the key, properly maintained. The only weapons I ever seen fail on the battlefield are the poorly maintained weapons. The M4/M16 is better then any AK ever built, M4 just need a little more TLC.

you're both looking at it the wrong way, a weapon is only as good as the person using and maintaining it, that said some will be more popular than others due to ease of use, availability and durability, which is what makes the AKM so popular

plus i have yet to see any other make of rifle appear on a nations flag

AKs are good because you can toss them into any soldiers hands and tell them 'point that way, pull trigger'. The AK is easy to maintain so you do not have to work on it as often. In essence, the Automatic Kalashnikov and its descendants are excellent for militia use, But the main forces should use something a bit better in accuracy and adaptability. That is why I am so excited for the new rifles that are multi caliber, we will always have the best weapon for the mission.

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

AKs are good because you can toss them into any soldiers hands and tell them 'point that way, pull trigger'. The AK is easy to maintain so you do not have to work on it as often. In essence, the Automatic Kalashnikov and its descendants are excellent for militia use, But the main forces should use something a bit better in accuracy and adaptability. That is why I am so excited for the new rifles that are multi caliber, we will always have the best weapon for the mission.

then why not just get FN to start producing the FAL again and put an adaptor rail on it? the thing combined the AK's good points with sensational accuracy and was very versatile (just look at what the australian defence force and SASR were able to achieve with the FAL before they switched to the equally impressive AUG)

 

[Gilhelmi]

AKs are good because you can toss them into any soldiers hands and tell them 'point that way, pull trigger'. The AK is easy to maintain so you do not have to work on it as often. In essence, the Automatic Kalashnikov and its descendants are excellent for militia use, But the main forces should use something a bit better in accuracy and adaptability. That is why I am so excited for the new rifles that are multi caliber, we will always have the best weapon for the mission.

then why not just get FN to start producing the FAL again and put an adapter rail on it? the thing combined the AK's good points with sensational accuracy and was very versatile (just look at what the Australian defense force and SASR were able to achieve with the FAL before they switched to the equally impressive AUG)

Can you give me a link to the 'FAL' I am not familiar with it. Also, what is the 'AUG'? Sounds interesting.

 

[blind_dead_mcjones]

Can you give me a link to the 'FAL' I am not familiar with it. Also, what is the 'AUG'? Sounds interesting.

sure, the FN FAL, nicknamed 'the right arm of the free world'[link]http://world.guns.ru/assault/as24f-e.htm[/link]


the AUG is the Steyr Stg.77 AUG, the first (and most) commercally successful bullpup style rifle, most notable feature being its quick change barrel system and insane durability (one example survived being run over repeatedly by a ten tonne truck)

[link]http://world.guns.ru/assault/as20-e.htm[/link]
[link]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UVsWgSX8dM&feature=related[/link]